Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victor Shepherd

Victor Shepherd

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non-notable biography. Article asserts no real encyclopedic value; seems to be just another university prof, and an adjunct at that. Agent 86 06:00, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. "University professor" does not meet BIO by itself. Madman 15:19, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Author of several books, but might not pass WP:BOOK. He is a full-time professor at one university-level institution (Tyndale University College and Seminary), and adjunct at another, the University of Toronto and its school of theology. The honorary degree would be proof of notability if it were from a more pretigious institution. I was only able to find one published review of his books, although a Google search for "nature and function of faith in the theology of John Calvin" turns up a few citations of that book. --Eastmain 18:00, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
• Delete no assertion of notability, does not appear to pass WP:PROF. Pete.Hurd 19:10, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Disagree Pete Hurd is citing a proposed guideline;WP:PROF has not been adopted and is heavilly disputed. The current professor test at BIO states: "If the individual is more well known and more published than an average college professor (based on the U.S. practice of calling all full-time academics professors), they can and should be included."--Kevin Murray 00:51, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I see no evidence that WP:PROF is "heavily disupted". To the contrary, a quick look through Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Academics and educators shows it to be the accepted standard for academics. Pete.Hurd 05:57, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

• Pete, please read the tag at the top of the page for WP:PROF: "The following is a proposed Wikipedia policy, guideline, or process. The proposal may still be in development, under discussion, or in the process of gathering consensus for adoption. References or links to this page should not describe it as "policy".--Kevin Murray 08:07, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Academics and educators is not WP policy. It is an opinion statement by a group of Wikipedians. You've been duped! --Kevin Murray 08:12, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

• Delete From the information provided in the article, this particular professor does not meet notability requirements. I have several professors at my graduate school who have done much more than this person and still don't merit having articles of their own. If some sources can be provided that show that his books are notable then I'd be willing to change my 'vote' to keep. --The Way 00:13, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep Passes professor test absolutely and seems to make it as an author as well. He only needs to pass one test to be deemed notable. I see a review of his work by an independent source, and a biography at another independent source. What's the problem? --Kevin Murray 00:43, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Comment To establish notability you need multiple reviews, the article supplies only one and that one source is rather non-notable itself. Also, there is no independent biography; I believe the biography you consider to be independent is a biography on a Writer's Union website, in other words that biography is likely to have been submitted by Victor himself since he is a member of that union. This is supported by the fact that that biography gives Victor's email address for responses... --The Way 01:39, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

You're right and wrong (a) he doesn't have to pass all tests; the multiple reviews is just one test. The Professor Test has different criteria (b) from what you say the Writer's Union website may not be an independent source. --Kevin Murray 08:02, 21 January 2007 (UTC)