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Jessica Foschi

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This biography concerns a living person who is only notable for one event, to whit, being internationally banned from competitive swimming after testing positive for steroids. I don't think we should be hosting it. —S Marshall T/C 00:51, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. —S Marshall T/C 00:51, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per nom and WP:BLP1E. KidAd • SPEAK 01:04, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep She was later found not guilty for steroids and that it was a sabotage. I think that's notable. She was also INTERNATIONALLY BANNED. Cool guy (talk • contribs) 02:15, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Your personal opinion of fame and importance is irrelevant. That idea was soundly rejected in 2004. The pertinent question is "Where does the rest of the biography come from?" The person was internationally banned and … then what? Or indeed … what came before that? You have no sources, nothing at all, from which to construct a biography of this person's life and works. One event happened in 1995/1996. That event, the lawsuit, is in books on sports law and drugs tests as a case study, but it's not a biography of a person. Not everything in the world needs to be in Wikipedia in the form of biographies.
  The simple truth here is that this is a private individual whose life and works are not documented, who hit the headlines once at age 15.
  Irony: If Wikipedia editors on sports subjects actually collectively knew what they were about, they could actually cite Foschi as the author of a source on the subject of sports law, but being an author is not the same as being documented for a biography.
  Uncle G (talk) 03:23, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and New York. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 02:34, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Coverage of Foschi covers two years of articles in the New York Times. She is a case study in a book on drugs in sports. I have started adding in details from the New York Times, Newsday, and the books. The coverage is significant coverage (including entire articles about her, e.g., the 2007 Newsday article), and in reliable sources (New York Times, Los Angeles Times[1]. DaffodilOcean (talk)

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 **Your personal opinion of [[Project:fame and importance|fame and importance]] is irrelevant.  That idea was soundly rejected in 2004.  The pertinent question is "Where does the rest of the biography come from?"  The person was internationally banned and &hellip; then what?  Or indeed &hellip; what came before that?  You have ''no sources'', nothing at all, from which to construct a biography of this person's life and works.  One event happened in 1995/1996.  That event, the lawsuit, is in books on sports law and drugs tests as a ''case study'', but it's ''not a biography'' of a person.  Not everything in the world needs to be in Wikipedia in the form of biographies.<p>The simple truth here is that this is a private individual whose life and works are not documented, who hit the headlines once at age 15.<p>Irony: If Wikipedia editors on sports subjects actually collectively knew what they were about, they could actually cite Foschi as the author of a source on the subject of sports law, but being an author is not the same as being documented for a biography.<p>[[User:Uncle G|Uncle G]] ([[User talk:Uncle G|talk]]) 03:23, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 *<small class="delsort-notice">Note:  This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting|deletion sorting]] lists for the following topics: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Women|Women]] and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/New York|New York]]. [[User:CAPTAIN RAJU|<span style="font-family: Bradley Hand ITC;">'''CAPTAIN RAJU'''</span>]]<sup>[[User_talk:CAPTAIN RAJU|(T)]]</sup> 02:34, 3 March 2022 (UTC)</small>
+*'''Keep''' - Coverage of Foschi covers two years of articles in the New York Times. She is a case study in a book on drugs in sports. I have started adding in details from the New York Times, Newsday, and the books. The coverage is significant coverage (including entire articles about her, e.g., the 2007 Newsday article), and in reliable sources (New York Times, Los Angeles Times[https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-06-25-sp-18298-story.html]. [[User:DaffodilOcean|DaffodilOcean]] ([[User talk:DaffodilOcean|talk]])