User talk:Titus Gold

I welcome comments. Please keep them polite. Thanks

Templates and attribution

Please do not delete the edit history of templates like you did at Template:Celtic nations from Template:Pan-Celticism. Your templates does not replace existing ones, please just edit the existing ones. Additionally while many of the templates you create are great, some seem very specific and not really needed, i.e. Template:Healthcare education in Wales has virtually just links of universities not really helpful at this stage. Thanks DankJae 14:35, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

If you claim you did not copy Template:Governing bodies of sports in Wales to Template:Sporting bodies of Wales would it make sense to just redirect to the older template? You can replace the formatting there. But just removing a lot of edit history for virtually the same template seems quite excessive. DankJae 14:39, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes I know, thanks. This was accidental following the wikipedia template change and move button having been moved, so apologies for that. I'm aiming to correct the celtic one but not sure how to do that yet. Would appreciate any help in sorting that out.

And yes I agree on healthcare, but not my fault that there are no specific pages for the nursing and paramedic schools.

Yes, I considered just editing after you raised this for governing bodies. I then thought that I preferred the new simpler title and will be going through all the pages now. Titus Gold (talk) 14:43, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

I requested a history merge for the celtic one, so that is sorted as of now. Ofc, please try not to do it again, a Request for a technical move is all you need, and I do believe the new name you gave it makes more sense.

While I do hope Healthcare on Wales is expanded, right now it seems very premature to make the template. Best to have the articles first then the template. Ofc, not every one may be notable enough. May be slow down the template making, but some you do make are great.

I believe it is best, you redirect your new template to the older one and simply request a technical move for a simpler title. I agree with a simpler title, but this is not the way to do it.

If some articles seem to have "excessive templates" may be put them into a navbox? Thanks DankJae 14:48, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Great, appreciate you doing that. Yes that was definitely a one off mistake.

What I'm doing with sporting bodies is acceptable I think because I've done it independently, but I admit I am causing myself much work. I am reviewing each article in the correct alphabetical order to check for the template anyway so doesn't really make a difference. I think it's actually easier to be dong it from scratch.

Yes I agree that some navboxes are sometimes appropriate.

By the way, noticed your maps recently and must commend you on creating all of those. Which software did you use? Titus Gold (talk) 14:57, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

@Titus Gold While I understand your position on the sporting templates, seems quite excessive work for a simple redirect, which aside the wrong source text name would be literally the same to desktop readers. But in the end, as you claim to have created it independently, then the policy is not clear cut against that as you claim not to have copied, but we'll see if any others raise it.

I use various software to make the maps, depending on the data I can find for them or the format. Still learning along. Usually Inkscape or Affinity Designer (as Adobe Illustrator quickly depleted me) for SVG formats, which I prefer, but sometimes use Openstreetmap as a background which usually needs either those two or even MS Paint or GIMP. I use QGIS for larger data sets like from Ordnance Survey. Happy to make any maps if you want to request any, though still learning haha.

On a side note, noticed you edit a bit of Wici? I unfortunately don't know too much Welsh, but if you want to help translate any of my maps that would be great. Wici needs some maps too. DankJae 15:08, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Fair comments.

Do those softwares (Inkscape and affinity designer) cost money?

Yes, I am fluent and felt as though Wici needed a lot of work compared to Wiki. Was thinking about overhauling cy:Cymru since it's essentially the most frequented page there.

Your maps could be very useful. What's the best way going about translating them over?

My last template project is Draft:Template:Economy of Wales. Would you like to co-operate on it?

Thanks Titus Gold (talk) 15:18, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Inkscape is free, and due to that is highly preferred on Wiki, but quite a learning curve, but defintely easier now. Affinity does cost, but it is a one-off purchase compared to Adobe which is an expensive subscription. Make sense to do Inkscape, which I do suggest.

In terms of translation, well there is two ways, although my maps are probably uncompatible as of now due to changes I made in coding. Maps that have been coded correctly can be easily translated through svgtranslate.toolforge.org/ (may be use Inkscape for a bit of clean up after), but I believe I need to change my older maps in particular to work with that. The other way is to simply add a section to the Discussion page of each image, or just my Commons talk. I don't mind.

I do also aim to use the {{Image label}} template just like at Local government in Wales#Police and fire services, where a blank map is made, but numbers/text etc, are added on top. Therefore can easily be translated within Wiki. DankJae 15:29, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

I see. Most of the images don't require a translation so I'll work to add those first to Wici Cymraeg. Thanks for your good work Titus Gold (talk) 14:11, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

MOS:GEO

@Titus Gold, per MOS:GEO use the article's title, therefore Snowdonia not Eryri, as you did at List of highest mountains in Wales. Ofc, should that article move at some point in the future the reverse would be enforced. But do not use the not (yet) common name (in English sources), as this is English not Welsh Wikipedia. Nor do not class "English" as a secondary language, on English Wikipedia. Please use the common name used in English, as likely proved by the article title, regardless of a personal opinion preferring a particular name.

MOS:GEO enforces Aberdyfi over Aberdovey as it was discussed the Welsh one is now more common. Eryri can become more common in the future, but NOT as of now, therefore it must be referred to as Snowdonia until that happens. Do not bring constant disputes to other articles, simpler to use the article title, whether that be of English or Welsh origin. DankJae 19:46, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

I was using a similar format for the mountain names as Lists of mountains in Ireland "List of the 10 Highest MacGillycuddy's Reekswhich" which lists Irish names in the first column and English in second. I will leave it broadly as you edited it, not a problem. Titus Gold (talk) 21:56, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Hmn that is true, fair enough, although most of the article is the other way round, with only the small section of that technically being against MOS:GEO. Not really sure why. DankJae 23:06, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Appreciate your quick reviews. It's good to have a fellow editor from WikiWales checking over and contributing. Please keep it up, thanks. Titus Gold (talk) 23:11, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

List of reservoirs in England and Wales

What you are doing by making a split between England and Wales is a major change and needs to be agreed by discussion at the relevant page. That is becoming more difficult since you moved the title to England only. This has not been accepted by consensus and moving important articles like to Draft is an inappropriate use of Draftyfing for a very long established article. Please return the article to its status quo and let us discuss the issue on the article talk page.  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   00:46, 4 February 2023 (UTC)