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Darwinek's response re:Mt7

What else to say? If whitewashing the ethincity of many people is a "content dispute", then calling African Americans "niggers", "porch monkeys" etc. (kind of vandalism I frequently revert) is a content dispute, too. :(

Are you saying that changing the description of a footballer from "professional Hungarian footballer from Slovakia" to "professional slovak footballer" is the equivalent of calling a black person a "porch monkey?" Thatcher131 18:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. As as I said before, you don't live in Central Europe and you will never understand that. - Darwinek 20:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Darwinek's response re: Ross.Hedvicek

But he is a pure vandal with no positive contribution to Wikipedia and I see NO problem with insulting vandals. They insult our community with their behaviour. Block was caused by his persistent removal of official Wikipedia warning from his talk page.

Do you really believe that Ross, who has been an editor for more than a year and has 500 edits, is a vandal?
Will you clarify that you believe it is OK to insult vandals?
Are you aware that removing warnings from one's own user page is not considered vandalism? (see below)

Thatcher131 18:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is not okay to insult vandals, WP:NPA makes that clear when it says "The prohibition against personal attacks applies equally to all Wikipedians. It is as unacceptable to attack a user with a history of foolish or boorish behavior, or even one who has been subject to disciplinary action by the Arbitration Committee, as it is to attack any other user."

I think that is very clear on the subject. ^High_InBC^{(Need help? Ask me)} 18:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you don't know him. He is a cause celebre in the Czech Rep.. I think someone sentenced in absentia by his own democratic country could be also refered to as vandal.
Some of them surely yes. When I am blocking IPs for vandalism like (niggers, bitches, gays, you suck etc.), I often add to the explanation something similar which should make them think about themselves, e.g. "You suck." But I see the definition of vandal is getting more and more blurred. Surely, insulting normal users is a crime.
I wasn't aware of that before, really. All the time I am here people are saying to me it is forbidden. I was also bashed by removing ordinary messages from my talk page.

--Darwinek 20:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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 :''What else to say? If whitewashing the ethincity of many people is a "content dispute", then calling African Americans "niggers", "porch monkeys" etc. (kind of vandalism I frequently revert) is a content dispute, too. :( ''
 Are you saying that changing the description of a footballer from "professional Hungarian footballer from Slovakia" to "professional slovak footballer" is the equivalent of calling a black person a "porch monkey?" [[User talk:Thatcher131|Thatcher131]] 18:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
+:Yes. As as I said before, you don't live in Central Europe and you will never understand that. - [[User:Darwinek|Darwinek]] 20:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
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 ::I think that is very clear on the subject. <small>[[User:HighInBC|<sup>High</sup><sub>InBC</sub>]]<sup>(Need help? [[User_talk:HighInBC|Ask me]])</sup></small> 18:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
+# Yes, you don't know him. He is a ''cause celebre'' in the Czech Rep.. I think someone sentenced ''in absentia'' by his own democratic country could be also refered to as vandal.
+# Some of them surely yes. When I am blocking IPs for vandalism like (niggers, bitches, gays, you suck etc.), I often add to the explanation something similar which should make them think about themselves, e.g. "You suck." But I see the definition of vandal is getting more and more blurred. Surely, insulting normal users is a crime.
+# I wasn't aware of that before, really. All the time I am here people are saying to me it is forbidden. I was also bashed by removing ordinary messages from my talk page.
+--[[User:Darwinek|Darwinek]] 20:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)