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Pgdn963, as requested above please justify your removal of all mention of the new bridge. [[User:Phonemonkey|Phonemonkey]] 03:46, 15 April 2007 (UTC) |
Pgdn963, as requested above please justify your removal of all mention of the new bridge. [[User:Phonemonkey|Phonemonkey]] 03:46, 15 April 2007 (UTC) |
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:According to 'Indian Concrete Journal'[http://www.icjonline.com/mar03_2.htm] most probable cause of the KB bridge collapse was damage engendered by removal of the original concrete roadway surface. primitive cause is "maintenance" works. not first construction work.[[User:86.17.247.199|86.17.247.199]] 15:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC) |
:According to 'Indian Concrete Journal'[http://www.icjonline.com/mar03_2.htm] most probable cause of the KB bridge collapse was damage engendered by removal of the original concrete roadway surface. primitive cause is "maintenance" works. not first construction work. so, first constructor Socio has no fault.[[User:86.17.247.199|86.17.247.199]] 15:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC) |
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Dispute is over whether a rebuilt bridge should be mentioned in the article. Those against argue that there is no evidence that South Korean firms were involved in the construction of the original bridge which collapsed. Those in favour question the logic of that being any reason to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Koror-Babeldaob_Bridge&diff=122903655&oldid=122900089 remove the entire section for the new bridge] which has nothing to do with the old. [[User:Phonemonkey|Phonemonkey]] 15:09, 15 April 2007 (UTC) |
Dispute is over whether a rebuilt bridge should be mentioned in the article. Those against argue that there is no evidence that South Korean firms were involved in the construction of the original bridge which collapsed. Those in favour question the logic of that being any reason to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Koror-Babeldaob_Bridge&diff=122903655&oldid=122900089 remove the entire section for the new bridge] which has nothing to do with the old. [[User:Phonemonkey|Phonemonkey]] 15:09, 15 April 2007 (UTC) |
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: [[User:Log10000|Log10000]] will fabricate this page. insert wrong information. |
: some japanese (like [[User:Log10000|Log10000]]) will fabricate this page. insert wrong information. put the blame on s.korean without public trusted information.(put the blame on s.korea. <- this is "only" purpose). |
Revision as of 20:36, 15 April 2007
The collapse of the K-B Bridge was following a strengthening designed by an American firm ABAM/BERGER Enginerring and constructed by an Austrailian contractor Black Micro. The strengthening lifted the sagging dual-cantilever structure and fusing it into a continuous structure. The post-tensioning was the most ambitious undertaken up to that point (100 million kips). 2 people were killed in the collapse.
- some anti-korean japanese(with nationalism) claim this bridge was built by s.korea company.
but, this bridge was No relation with s.korea construction techniques & architect & engineer & worker. here is the source.
http://en.structurae.de/structures/data/index.cfm?ID=s0001026
Firms, offices, etc. involved with this structure
Design Alfred A. Yee and Associates
Dyckerhoff & Widmann AG
Construction Dyckerhoff & Widmann AG
Contractor Socio Construction Co.
and Socio Construction Co. is NOT S.korea company. and NO relation with s.korea construction techniques & architect & engineer & worker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.148.48.216 (talk • contribs)
- Then why don't you just remove the reference to S Korea, instead of half the content of the article? Also, please sign your posts and stop removing warnings from your talk page. Phonemonkey 16:34, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- (For 221.148.48.216) According to "WAVE OF PACIFIKA Vol.6 (1999)", the old bridge was designed by a Hawaiian company and constructed by a Korean construction firm. Please see p.6. Thanks. -- Nightshadow28 17:14, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- Socio Construction Co. is NOT s.korea firm. and that document does NOT contain that Socio Construction IS korea firm. and http://www.spf.org/ site is JAPANESE SITE. this site is NOT contain public trust information. that site is NOT Palau gov and official newspapaer. who know? that spf site informer is anti-korea japanese(with nationalism. fabricate. like 2ch japanese uyoku. like Sankei newspaper. or misunderstand?) if you think Socio Construction Co. is korea firm. and built by s.korea construction techniques & architect & engineer & worker. then, show us public trust document.(not japanese fabricated document. like 2ch source or sankei source. palau gov document is better. plz, show us.)
this bridge was NOT built by s.korea construction techniques & s.korea architect & s.korea engineer & s.korea worker. (this is "Point") and s.korea DID NOT HAVE "Socio Construction Co."! ok?
- Simply I think that your eyes refused to read that you don't want. Korean Reinsurance which was the government corporation, was supported construction.[1]
- Second, if you only have a question in article, you should use {fact} tag for asking source. That's very simple.
- Third, your opinion is no reason for deleting the section of a new bridge. Why? -- Nightshadow28 17:57, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't care whether or not socio was S Korean. You deleted half the content of the article on this basis, specifically all mention of the new bridge. What is your reasoning for this? Phonemonkey 18:16, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- Oh and while you're at it, Pgdn963, could you also explain why you placed a semi-protection template on the article [2] when it obvously isn't? Phonemonkey 03:02, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Pgdn963, as requested above please justify your removal of all mention of the new bridge. Phonemonkey 03:46, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
- According to 'Indian Concrete Journal'[3] most probable cause of the KB bridge collapse was damage engendered by removal of the original concrete roadway surface. primitive cause is "maintenance" works. not first construction work. so, first constructor Socio has no fault.86.17.247.199 15:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
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Summary: Dispute is over whether a rebuilt bridge should be mentioned in the article. Those against argue that there is no evidence that South Korean firms were involved in the construction of the original bridge which collapsed. Those in favour question the logic of that being any reason to remove the entire section for the new bridge which has nothing to do with the old. Phonemonkey 15:09, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
- some japanese (like Log10000) will fabricate this page. insert wrong information. put the blame on s.korean without public trusted information.(put the blame on s.korea. <- this is "only" purpose).