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You know that high horse you're on? Guess what? '''You made the first attack when you accused me of making bad faith edits.''' The fact that you are complaining about me accusing you of vandalism after what you accused me of shows the disconnect with policy you have. |
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''<Uncivil messages removed. Please view these links, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sesshomaru&diff=152072952&oldid=152067774], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sesshomaru&diff=152073227&oldid=152072952], if you wish to know why.> [[Special:Contributions/Sesshomaru|Lord Sesshomaru]] 17:39, 18 August 2007 (UTC)'' |
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WP:MOS-JP does NOT apply. |
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#Artificial Human 17 is NOT a Japanese name, so MOS-JP doesn't support it at all. |
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#MOS-JP clearly states: "The English Wikipedia is an English-language encyclopedia." |
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#And the MOS-JP clearly points out that it is for Japanese subjects such as Mt. Fuji or Japanese names. There wouldn't be two official manual of styles that contradict each other, meaning that you are STILL required to follow UCN. What are you implying, that UCN applies to all languages except for Japanese? That a German name should be put into English? |
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The MOS-JP was not created so that anyone could ignore UCN. - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] [[User talk:A Link to the Past|(talk)]] 17:31, 18 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:And may I point out that any RfC created by you will result in me turning it on you, who - fun fact - was the first person to insult anyone, meaning that you are the instigating party of any insults? Let's just try to avoid you threatening to ban me because you don't like people disagreeing with you. - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] [[User talk:A Link to the Past|(talk)]] 17:32, 18 August 2007 (UTC) |
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Vandalism
<Message removed. Please view this link, [1], if you wish to see why.> Lord Sesshomaru 15:27, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Sources
ISBNs can be added to the actual refs. The only reason the section exists is because most Naruto articles lack references. Adding it to an article that does not have this problem is pointless. ~SnapperTo 20:52, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- I do not own the book, so you'll need to look elsewhere for that. Regardless, ISBNs are not required; even the link you provided me says that much. If you don't want to add ISBNs to references because it makes it look cluttered, I fail to see how stuffing a list of books that may or may not say anything on the subject will prevent that problem. If you feel the need to have that information available somehow you can make creative use of List of Naruto chapters; make shortcuts or something that you can link to from each reference. ~SnapperTo 21:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- How does one know what happens in the manga every week without subscribing to Weekly Shonen Jump? Simple: scans of the material that someone uploads onto the internet. ~SnapperTo 02:13, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- Your only reason is that you want ISBNs, an unnecessary factoid you continue to desire for nonsensical reasons. I have suggested using List of Naruto chapters for this particular tidbit of information, yet you seem uninterested in using it. As I said in my edit summary, if you are going to insist on keeping the section at least make the effort to add the information you want it to give people. ~SnapperTo 20:34, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Please
<Messages removed. Please view these links, [2], [3], if you wish to know why.> Lord Sesshomaru 18:50, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Concerns
As you remove valid concerns such as you did to this post, I am becoming concerned. Transparency is imporatnt part of this project. While there is no hard and fast rule, it is generally a good idea to not remove edits of good faith editors. I have NO reason to believe that this edit was done in bad faith and your treatment of this editor is a little dickish personally. Please make an effort to get along with this editor. I am sure you will erase this message as you erase all of my concerns, I however hope you choose to take it to heart. Thanks! Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 19:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- <Replied on user's talk page.> Lord Sesshomaru 20:09, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Superman
Thanks for asking. I've been away a few days.
It's just that the Comics Project "Exemplar" page specifically uses Superman as the example at "Comic Book Characters":
- "Superman is a fictional character and regarded as the most influential and popular superhero of DC Comics. Created by Canadian artist Joe Shuster and American writer Jerry Siegel in 1932 and sold to Detective Comics, Inc. in 1938, Superman first appeared in Action Comics #1 (June 1938) and subsequently appeared in various radio serials, television programs, films, newspaper strips, and video games."
It just seems odd to have Superman used as the example of this wording on the exemplar page but not on the Superman article. And, really, unless you want to unilaterally go in and change Spider-Man, Batman, Captain Marvel (DC Comics) and dozens if not hundreds of other major comics characters, it makes Superman inconsistent with much of the rest of the Comics Project.
But if you want to do that, I'm not gonna fight. If you want inconsistence, fine. --Tenebrae 00:07, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
Shonen Jump
ISBNs are already listed in the Naruto chapters article, let that be one of their jobs while we concentrate on page numbers and other stuff. I'll try and find the chapters they were released in, though. And the first one doesn't need a reference, only the second one does. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 16:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- It was unneeded for that article, incomplete, and the List of Naruto chapters article deals with ISBNs nicely, so let us just worry about ISBNs there and there only. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 17:00, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- You aren't supposed to list ISBNs just to find a book, and it serves much more sueful purposes in the chapters page. And after reading that, I found a line that said they aren't required. Although for a list of books article, they would probably be needed, but for a fictional character, the ISBNs are completely unneeded. Let us just leave the chapters article to do the ISBN job, as they can do it much more appropriately than a character article. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 17:15, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- "popular among fans" means he is popular among the number of fans of Naruto, not popular on Jurrasic Park, Dragon Ball, or Star Wars standards. And I reverted it because favoured just made it seem terribly written, as long as you can think of a better word that does not suck you can change it. And yes, favoured sucks in that use of it compared to popular. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 17:46, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- Well, they are better than favoured. But non of them fit the situation as much as popular does, even if they are more well-written words. Popular is straight and to the point, while the others are fancy and don't seem very appropriate. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 18:02, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- Before we go on, I would like to ask: I read a comment that said the former Shippuden plot article was the 89th most read article on Wikipedia. How did he find that out? Is there an article or list or survey that shows that stuff? Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 18:06, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- You misunderstood. When I said "former Shippuden plot article", I meant that it was deleted. It doesn't exist anymore and shouldn't exist. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 18:13, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry in to interrupt but the page Artist is looking for I believe is in the process of a make over and if you're trying to use that for itachi's sake then remember if it didn't help Shippuden why would it help in this case?Sam ov the blue sand, Editor Review 23:31, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
ABBA / B.A.T.M.A.N.
Hi David. Doesn't ABBA need to be moved/renamed to Abba (band)? Perhaps just Abba per MOS:CAPS (take a look at the shortcut box there BTW). Lord Sesshomaru 22:59, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- ABBA is an acronym, so it shouldn't be modified.
- I'll prune that enormous shortcut box down to size. —David Levy 00:00, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Reminder: How about that shortcut proposal you were planning? Lord Sesshomaru 22:59, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry, I've been very busy in real life. I'll try to get to that soon. —David Levy 00:00, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm unsure about B.A.T.M.A.N.. Is the hatnote there necessary? Lord Sesshomaru 23:38, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- That's a judgement call. Given the fact that BATMAN redirects to Batman, I'm leaning toward "no." —David Levy 00:00, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Batman
"Superhero" would be adequately terminology to describe Batman, since he is described as such in popular and academic contexts. While he doesn't have superpowers, lots of other superheroes don't, ranging from the Golden Age to now. Despite the lack of superpowers, he does consist of various traits attributed to superheroes, including a career as a crime fighter, a secret identity, a costume and motif, and a rogues gallery. WesleyDodds 01:46, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Hey Im back!
Hey Sesshomaru I have just got back from an unanounced Wikibreak, I know we have had our differences in the past but I hope we can look past (no pun intended there) that and help improve wikipedia, DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 22:43, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- It was great I went to Yosemite in California and it was awesome. DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 22:47, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Uh just one, what happened to all the pictures in the lists? DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 23:02, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Disrupt? No no no I now realise you were only trying to make sure I didn't destroy Wikipedia. Its fine, really. DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 23:17, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Undid the revision I see where your coming from. it really does look better as a citiation. :D DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 23:38, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Disrupt? No no no I now realise you were only trying to make sure I didn't destroy Wikipedia. Its fine, really. DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 23:17, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Uh just one, what happened to all the pictures in the lists? DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 23:02, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Barnstar
The Original Barnstar | ||
For working tirelessly to improve Dragon Ball related articles I present you with the Original Barnstar, keep it up! DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 23:44, 11 August 2007 (UTC) |
I know, I know
I know I should start a AFD but if I do the damn IP's will come running and I won't be able to handle that BS from them. We each bring up good pionts but I still satnd by my reasonings that no information will be lost in the merge.Sam ov the blue sand, Editor Review 00:00, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- It's just that when I answer them over and over again I get tired of repeating myself and then guys like Artist see fit to insult saying I should give them policies as if I didn't for the past two days. And that along with work gets on my nerves.Sam ov the blue sand, Editor Review 02:22, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- The only reason why the article was created in the first place was that every one was under pressure to make one and so when someone came along with a mediocre article everyone jumped all at once. And yes i'll continue with the current disscussion i see no reason to start up an AFD now as we're too far into this already.Sam ov the blue sand, Editor Review 04:48, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Re: Saint Seiya, a sci-fi?
It depends, on if it is the Manga or Anime. Since the Anime has a small Toei based plot were some persons wear technological armors. Which can count as Sci-fi, but since this is a rather small part of it, i am doubtfull. And about the other question, some of them can fly, and they have superhuman strength. :D Refuteku 19:11 August 12 2007
- I'll get to the Zelos Frog page later :D Still all the characters have superhuman strength, and everyone can move ath superhuman speed. But the ones that can fly are only Pegasus Seiya, Cygnus Hyoga and Phoenix Ikki. These events take place almost at the end of the story. And personally i wouldn't call it sci-fi, so there you have my answer :DRefuteku 19:11 August 12 2007
- I currently own the series on DVD, so i haven't seen a reason to watch them online. Though the first episodes of the recent season was an exception since they had not been released yet. 18:28, 12 August 2007 (UTC)Refuteku 20:28 August 12 2007
My revert
Sorry about that. I didn't revert all of it to prove my point, it was just a mistake. It wasn't necessary to accuse me of doing that in order to prove my point. --Zeno McDohl (talk) 17:14, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
As far as the source, I checked the Job Posting that was linked and I see nothing there. --Zeno McDohl (talk) 17:18, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
- The link you posted is not the job posting. This is and I see nothing there. All the fields are blank. --Zeno McDohl (talk) 17:55, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
- No, you have the wrong link. That is not the job posting link. Did you even read that article? Apparently not, since you think my link is a random link. It's not a random link. I got the link from the article (click Gamejob). The link I provided is the actual Job Listing. And as I'm saying, it's blank. The job advert in the article is blank. It can't be used as a source. --Zeno McDohl (talk) 18:05, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Ref
Sorry, missed the cat notice. I'd say clear it. As for the ref, it's quite unnecessary to repeat the same ref in one sentence. It's relevant to the entire sentence. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 01:45, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- He doesn't seem to have contested it, so you should be fine. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 21:44, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- Offhand, I'd say italics since they're foreign. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 20:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Goku
I have left a comment on Talk:Son Goku (Dragon Ball). --Ghostexorcist 00:59, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
I actually don't think that Google test (as it stands) says much. Check out my reply on the talk page for my reasoning. I'll check out the other comment now and reply on that page as well. Onikage725 11:40, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Hello!
After a bit of absence, I return! Any more trouble from Blueshrek while I was gone? Lychosis T/C 20:44, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
WikiProject Anime and manga/Dragon Ball Argument
I'm seriously geting tired of A Link to the Past. How are we going to get rid of this guy? Ryu-chan
Question
You know that high horse you're on? Guess what? You made the first attack when you accused me of making bad faith edits. The fact that you are complaining about me accusing you of vandalism after what you accused me of shows the disconnect with policy you have.
WP:MOS-JP does NOT apply.
- Artificial Human 17 is NOT a Japanese name, so MOS-JP doesn't support it at all.
- MOS-JP clearly states: "The English Wikipedia is an English-language encyclopedia."
- And the MOS-JP clearly points out that it is for Japanese subjects such as Mt. Fuji or Japanese names. There wouldn't be two official manual of styles that contradict each other, meaning that you are STILL required to follow UCN. What are you implying, that UCN applies to all languages except for Japanese? That a German name should be put into English?
The MOS-JP was not created so that anyone could ignore UCN. - A Link to the Past (talk) 17:31, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
- And may I point out that any RfC created by you will result in me turning it on you, who - fun fact - was the first person to insult anyone, meaning that you are the instigating party of any insults? Let's just try to avoid you threatening to ban me because you don't like people disagreeing with you. - A Link to the Past (talk) 17:32, 18 August 2007 (UTC)