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::Given that the [[WP:AIV]] report was removed, all my issues are resolved. All I wish for is an assurance from [[User:Zerocannon]] that such activity will not be repeated in the future. Much appreciated. <font face="Verdana">[[User:Sephiroth BCR|<font color="navy">'''Sephiroth BCR'''</font>]] <sup>'''([[User talk:Sephiroth BCR|<font color="blue">Converse</font>]])'''</sup></font> 07:04, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
::Given that the [[WP:AIV]] report was removed, all my issues are resolved. All I wish for is an assurance from [[User:Zerocannon]] that such activity will not be repeated in the future. Much appreciated. <font face="Verdana">[[User:Sephiroth BCR|<font color="navy">'''Sephiroth BCR'''</font>]] <sup>'''([[User talk:Sephiroth BCR|<font color="blue">Converse</font>]])'''</sup></font> 07:04, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Thanks you Sephiroth BCR. I must say that, the first diff is definitely [[WP:CIV|uncivil]], Zerocannon. Name-calling in general is not civil, but calling someone a "nazi fascist" crosses the line too far - I suggest you apologize and not do that again, it is a violation of [[WP:NPA]]. The second diff with the copied material would be considered more of a [[parody]] than an actual attack, but in combination with the other one...well, it's not pretty. Zerocannon, do you really want to keep that on your user page?

:::As for the image. Um, well, I viewed it and I'm not offended by it. I'm not sure it's appropriate for the article, and I have definite copyright concerns. Zerocannon, do you really need to include that? And while I think it may be inappropriate, I'm not sure it crosses the line into [[WP:VANDAL|vandalism]].

:::As for editing another's user page, please read through [[Wikipedia:User_page#Ownership_and_editing_of_pages_in_the_user_space|Wikipedia:User page ownership and editing]] The removal of the [[parody]] should have been brought up to an administrator instead of edit warring over it, since it was not an egregious attack. Editing other's comments is a very controversial subject, even with personal attacks, per [[WP:NPA#Removal of text]]. I suggest that comments be only very rarely removed and only in egregious circumstances per [[Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#Editing comments]], such as those containing personal information or libel, and in cases where permission is obtained from the editor who made the post. [[User:Dreadstar|Dreadstar]] <small>[[User talk:Dreadstar|<span class="Unicode">†</span>]]</small> 07:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Revision as of 07:14, 12 October 2007

Welcome!

Hello, Zerocannon, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes ~~~~; this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome!


Your recent warnings on other user pages

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. MorganaFiolett 10:03, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • By the way, if you'd like some guidance on responding to vandals, and easy templates to use, see WP:VANDAL. MorganaFiolett 11:03, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • If people issue the warnings properly, and then report them to administrators when it's escalated to the right point, then they can, and do, get blocked. Sometimes they start again as soon as the block clears, but then we just do it again, and they get blocked for longer. Eventually some of them realise that what they're doing is pointless and they either give up on Wikipedia and take their daftness elsewhere, or start contributing properly. MorganaFiolett 11:27, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Other innocent users may utilize the ip address where you made this comment, and it's uncivil to taunt blocked users. I'm going to remove it. Let me know if you have any objections. Dreadstar 03:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Handling vandalism

Thanks for your question. First, I'd suggest reading through WP:VANDAL and check out Wikipedia:Guide to administrator intervention against vandalism. Let me know if these answer your questions. Oh, and sign your talk page comments with four tildes: ~~~~. Dreadstar 03:36, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a link to the warning templates. Dreadstar 03:45, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

Hi, there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot 03:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]


October 2007

Please do not add inappropriate images to Wikipedia, as you did to Yoruichi Shihouin; it is considered to be vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 05:11, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your image

Is unsuitable for inclusion because it is not official, thus not being an adequate representation of the character. If you wish to upload a suitable image for this character, then acquire one from the Bleach anime. In any case, I've removed your message on my talk page. Please read Wikipedia:Civility and Wikipedia:No personal attacks and refrain from sending such messages in the future. Thank you. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 05:41, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not attack other editors, which you did here: User:Zerocannon. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 05:53, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive comments.
If you continue to make personal attacks on other people as you did at User:Zerocannon, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Copying the material on my talk page and maliciously changing it is obviously a personal attack. Don't play ignorant. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 05:58, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed it because it's an obvious personal attack. Don't play coy or ignorant. In any case, as per WP:OWN, you don't own your userspace, and are not free to utilize it for personal attacks or other malicious purposes. In addition, any member of the community is free to edit your userspace. As for being an administrator, it is no different from being a normal user, aside from having an additional set of tools. Administrators are expected to have greater responsibilities and knowledge, but are not considered "higher" than another user. Whether I am an administrator or not is irrelevant here anyways. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 06:29, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute

Please, both of you stop this dispute. Dreadstar 06:41, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am completely willing to stop the dispute. However, I cannot and will not tolerate the use of the userspace for personal attacks, especially when it is directed against me and in such a transparent manner. Indeed, this diff is nothing more than a personal attack, as well as this diff, as well as every subsequent version, which is a set of personal attacks as well, seeing as he did nothing more than copy the material from User talk:Sephiroth BCR and modify it deliberately to make it mocking. Not to mention that it would be a violation of WP:CIVIL to have that present even if it was not copied from my page. Given that it is removed, my complaint is dropped, but my report at WP:AIV still stands at the moment. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 06:49, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Given that the WP:AIV report was removed, all my issues are resolved. All I wish for is an assurance from User:Zerocannon that such activity will not be repeated in the future. Much appreciated. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 07:04, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks you Sephiroth BCR. I must say that, the first diff is definitely uncivil, Zerocannon. Name-calling in general is not civil, but calling someone a "nazi fascist" crosses the line too far - I suggest you apologize and not do that again, it is a violation of WP:NPA. The second diff with the copied material would be considered more of a parody than an actual attack, but in combination with the other one...well, it's not pretty. Zerocannon, do you really want to keep that on your user page?
As for the image. Um, well, I viewed it and I'm not offended by it. I'm not sure it's appropriate for the article, and I have definite copyright concerns. Zerocannon, do you really need to include that? And while I think it may be inappropriate, I'm not sure it crosses the line into vandalism.
As for editing another's user page, please read through Wikipedia:User page ownership and editing The removal of the parody should have been brought up to an administrator instead of edit warring over it, since it was not an egregious attack. Editing other's comments is a very controversial subject, even with personal attacks, per WP:NPA#Removal of text. I suggest that comments be only very rarely removed and only in egregious circumstances per Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#Editing comments, such as those containing personal information or libel, and in cases where permission is obtained from the editor who made the post. Dreadstar 07:14, 12 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]