Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 November 8: Difference between revisions
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*'''Delete''' and revert the spoiler guideline to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Spoiler&oldid=164044730 this version] (which describes the actual practice of no spoiler warnings). For a huge amount of related discussion, see [[Wikipedia talk:Spoiler]] and [[Wikipedia talk:Spoiler/Archive index]]. {{tl|current fiction}} is enough to satisfy the needs of the spoiler-averse on recent releases, and there was never a consensus even among generally pro-spoiler tag editors when exactly {{tl|spoiler}} should be used. [[User:Kusma|Kusma]] ([[User talk:Kusma|talk]]) 08:46, 8 November 2007 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''' and revert the spoiler guideline to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Spoiler&oldid=164044730 this version] (which describes the actual practice of no spoiler warnings). For a huge amount of related discussion, see [[Wikipedia talk:Spoiler]] and [[Wikipedia talk:Spoiler/Archive index]]. {{tl|current fiction}} is enough to satisfy the needs of the spoiler-averse on recent releases, and there was never a consensus even among generally pro-spoiler tag editors when exactly {{tl|spoiler}} should be used. [[User:Kusma|Kusma]] ([[User talk:Kusma|talk]]) 08:46, 8 November 2007 (UTC) |
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*See here for the current mainspace links: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?offset=&limit=999&target=Template%3ASpoiler&title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere&namespace=0]. [[User:Kusma|Kusma]] ([[User talk:Kusma|talk]]) 08:50, 8 November 2007 (UTC) |
*See here for the current mainspace links: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?offset=&limit=999&target=Template%3ASpoiler&title=Special%3AWhatlinkshere&namespace=0]. [[User:Kusma|Kusma]] ([[User talk:Kusma|talk]]) 08:50, 8 November 2007 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' First of all the argument that the template is unencycloaedic is completely fallacious: there has never been a general encyclopaedia with Wikipedia's breadth and depth; other encyclopedias simply don't have the space to go into the details of a work of fiction's plot so have never had to deal with the spoiler issue. Second, the only reason that there are currently under 10 tags is that a tiny group of 4 or 5 editors are consistently reverting then everywhere, holding back the floodgates; if these 4 or 5 editors were to stop then we would soon be back to the genuine consensus on the issue and have some hundereds/thousands of tags. [[User:Tomgreeny|Tomgreeny]] 10:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC) |
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November 8
This template is totally unencyclopaedic (how many other encyclopaedias actually have "Spoiler Warning" notices?), and is superseded by Wikipedia:Content disclaimer, which explicitly states "Wikipedia contains spoilers." This template is no longer in frequent mainspace usage, appearing only on 10 mainspace pages. I don't see how it could be considered "useful" if that many actual articles are going to use it. I'll try to avoid POV-pushing this TfD, it was horrific looking at how the last nominator had to respond to every keep vote.
I am aware that the last TfD resulted in a keep, however that was a year and a half ago. As I said before, it's summed up in Wikipedia:Content disclaimer, only 10 mainspace pages have the template now, and you don't expect a spoiler warning in an encyclopaedia.
Note: if the result here is Delete, then Template:Endspoiler should be deleted as well, as it would then be useless. L337 kybldmstr 07:32, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete and revert the spoiler guideline to this version (which describes the actual practice of no spoiler warnings). For a huge amount of related discussion, see Wikipedia talk:Spoiler and Wikipedia talk:Spoiler/Archive index. {{current fiction}} is enough to satisfy the needs of the spoiler-averse on recent releases, and there was never a consensus even among generally pro-spoiler tag editors when exactly {{spoiler}} should be used. Kusma (talk) 08:46, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- See here for the current mainspace links: [1]. Kusma (talk) 08:50, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- Keep First of all the argument that the template is unencycloaedic is completely fallacious: there has never been a general encyclopaedia with Wikipedia's breadth and depth; other encyclopedias simply don't have the space to go into the details of a work of fiction's plot so have never had to deal with the spoiler issue. Second, the only reason that there are currently under 10 tags is that a tiny group of 4 or 5 editors are consistently reverting then everywhere, holding back the floodgates; if these 4 or 5 editors were to stop then we would soon be back to the genuine consensus on the issue and have some hundereds/thousands of tags. Tomgreeny 10:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Template now loaded with lots of redlinks because of a recent AFD discussion, the few that are blue links are currently in AFD Delete This is a Secret account 02:09, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Neutral for now, I'll wait and see how those AfDs go before making a decision. L337 kybldmstr 04:48, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- Wait and see If all the articles get deleted, then sure, it has no further use. But if a few remain, then it simply needs to have the red links pruned. --Falcorian (talk) 07:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Delete as per Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Non-admin_fwarn. Discussed extensively, and consequences of using the template followed by no admin action to incite further bad behavior outweigh value of notice. — Bsherr 00:28, 8 November 2007 (UTC)