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Yo Jaranda, it is nice to see you back on wikipedia, and sorry about that stupid stuff i was involved with before, hope it was'nt the reason you quit the first time, can we still be friends.Thanks.--[[User:Sunderland06|Sunderland]][[User talk:sunderland06|06]] 18:09, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Yo Jaranda, it is nice to see you back on wikipedia, and sorry about that stupid stuff i was involved with before, hope it was'nt the reason you quit the first time, can we still be friends.Thanks.--[[User:Sunderland06|Sunderland]][[User talk:sunderland06|06]] 18:09, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

== Removing votes from indef blocked users ==

Hi, I noticed that you indented [[User:Arkalochori]]'s various votes since the user has since been indef-blocked. I'm not sure where it says that a user's votes should be stricken if they voted before they got blocked (although it certainly makes sense to me). If we are doing that, you may wish to strike [[User:Dbuckner]]'s votes as well since he has been indef blocked. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] ([[User talk:JoshuaZ|talk]]) 18:52, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

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Jason Lau

Jaranda, can you please tell me why you deleted this article. 05:45, 22 July 2007 Jaranda (Talk | contribs) deleted "Jason Lau" ‎ (CSD A7 (Bio): Biographical article that does not assert significance) sorry for the delayed reaction but none the less how did you come to the absolute authority or conclusion about the the significance of this person. The article was approved by Wiki's admins. There's no advertisement and this person is of notable character and a student of Jiu Wan. Please help me understand.

Canvassing

...to stop a rouge admin from changing a notability standard he doesn't like. Yeah. Also, don't threaten , it's not very nice. - NeutralHomer T:C 03:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Brady Leaf

I noticed you started an AfD for Brady Leaf a while back, which resulted in merging into his older brother's article and redirecting. An anon has now changed the redirect back in to an article. I reverted him once, but he changed it back and I wanted to see what you though before reverting again (and possibly protecting). Personally I don't think he is notable enough to have a page, and the AfD was valid, but things like this tend to lean towards allowing an article (which I personally 100% disagree with, but I will comply with what the community wants). Thoughts? VegaDark (talk) 07:16, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted and protect. As for the other article didn't see that AFD of Bryce Taylor, again WP:BIO is broken with sports articles and people who knows nothing about sports quote that and that's one reason why wikipedia is broken, I really want WP:SPORTS to become an active discussion again. This is a Secret account 18:30, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A quick question

Hey I had a quick question for you about User:Ronnalyn anuyo, if you look at her page she is treating it like Wikipedia is a dating site or something like that. I really do not know what to do, so I figured I would just bring it to an admin's attention. Thanks.
Gonzo fan2007 talkcontribs 07:32, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is, of course, subject to the "We're all human" disclaimer, but I posted a {{uw-socialnetwork}} notice along with a note describing potential privacy implications to the user's talk page. Further input from an admin would, of course, be welcome. I just went with my gut instinct on this one. Tuvok[T@lk/Improve me] 09:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

you deleted "East End Hockey Association"

Could we discuss why my posting was deleted. It has historical significance in NYC as the oldest and still existing roller hockey organization.

02:32, 15 November 2007 Secret (Talk | contribs) deleted "East End Hockey Association" ‎ (CSD A7 (Group): Article about a club or group that does not assert significance)

--Tmartin91 (talk) 17:28, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Because it didn't claim Notabilty, no reliable sources as well, see WP:ORG This is a Secret account 18:32, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can cite several articles from the NY Times if you would like. It has relevance as an athletic organization that has been the fabric of roller hockey in NYC. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DE1DE143FF935A15751C1A96E948260

They are also notable as being at the forefront of helping save the Robert Moses Playground next to the UN from developers. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/nyregion/thecity/01lot.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9902E5DB153BF931A15752C0A967948260

Tom (talk) 17:06, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

incorrect speedies

Not that I think the following are likely to be good articles, but It sends a confusing signal when we admins don't get it right. Recently you deleted via speedy:

Victor Quartermaine as A7 non notable, but it is a fictional character.--but according to WP:CSD only real people can be deleted. "An article about a real person, group of people, band, club, company, organisation, or web content that does not indicate why its subject is important or significan. This is distinct from questions of notability, verifiability and reliability of sources. If controversial, list the article at Articles for deletion instead."
Uruguay 2030 as "Article about subject that does not assert significance" But it about plans for a future event., not any of the above.
Major league career of Barry Bonds as first, "not worth an article", and then " (fork rejected in talk". Neither are speedy criteria.
Teleonomical prayers as "blatant advertising" The article is simply not advertising or public relations in any sense of the word, but a long specialized descriptive article--not that i understand it
Terence Glover as bio article that does not assert significance, though it say he "curated exhibitions at galleries and museums in the United States, Mexico, Canada, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Brazil, Argentina and Cuba. Terence has published seven editions...and has created public projects for Cologne, Mexico City, and New York City." That is at least as assertion of significance.
TPR magazine as nn-company, but a magazine is not a company. Books, magaziens, newspapers--none of them fit in A7.

I have tried to select examples where it is not just a question of interpretation. I also note that for many of these you have done the speedy in one step, judging by yourself without prior tagging by someone else. Please try to be more careful. DGG (talk) 00:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • First one can be undeleted and merged, my mistake, second one read the article closer, it a group/organization trying to promote the world cup in 2030, valid speedy, the Bonds article was a split fork that was quickly rejected in the talk page, prayers read like spam, but in closer look should go to AFD, the Glover article I didn't see no history when I quickly checked, the magazine article didn't claim notabilty. Most of the articles deleted here I got was from a recently formed list of articles that likely missed CSD patrol, those articles were never tagged, and mostly consists of nn companys and spam. Thanks This is a Secret account 04:08, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I undeleted and prodded Victor Quartermaine, Teleonomical prayers,, per the above discussion, and undeleted and put an unsourced tag Terence Gower. I read 2030 differently than you--you are probably right about the agenda, but that's not what the article says. Bonds could possibly be justified as a speedy as housekeeping. But you misunderstood, I think about TPR magazine -- it is not a candidate for speedy A7 even there is zero claim of notability, or zero likelihood of notability, because its not one of the things listed in WP:CSD A7, but not worth reverting you (I have never yet reverted someone else's deletion) or taking to DelRev. thanks for reconsidering things. DGG (talk) 02:51, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article titled Ilavida

The article Ilavida is about an important character in the Indian epic, The Ramayana, the stepmother of the villain Ravana. This article was "speedily deleted" for not specifying its notability.

I thought the importance of the article would be self-evident to most Hindus. The source for the article is the Ramayana -- an epic that is a few thousand years old. It would have helped if you had put out a note, asking for my explanation, before just speedily deleting the article. Unless, of course, Wikipedia.org only caters to European and American populations and does not see the relavance of an article based on an Indian epic here.

-Kreedanthi.

Better to rewrite and source the article, and mention the book and importance of the subject, the current version didn't This is a Secret account 00:59, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Because of what this user wrote on my talk page here it seems they sincerely want to be a positive contributor to the wiki. I told him I would speak with you but after that, I can't guarantee anything. I am going to assume good faith on this users part and ask if you would consider shortening his block, or giving him another second chance on his talk page? Thank you for your consideration. Bmg916Speak 15:56, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I unblocked, but if he goes back to socking or revert warning, he's gone This is a Secret account 23:57, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I understand, and completely agree. I will let you know if I see anything resembling that type of behavior. Regards, Bmg916Speak 00:33, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Userfication request

Could you userfy Captain Cook Cruises on a subpage of my userpage? I think I might be able to establish notability. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 18:42, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Martijn Hoekstra/Captain Cook Cruises done This is a Secret account 23:55, 20 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ah thanks, I missed that for a moment. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 19:47, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have 1418 edits. See here: http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username=Alex+Roggio&site=en.wikipedia.org Lex T/C Guest Book 00:06, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So may I post my candidacy back? Lex T/C Guest Book 00:13, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It does not have to be by November 1.

The sentence I suppose you are implying...

  • Anyone with over 1000 edits as of November 1, 2007 on the English Wikipedia may run. Candidates should self nominate.
    • It means that anyone who has 1000 edits can self nominate as of November 1, 2007.

PS. Please do not ignore the hidden comment on my talk page which says

<!-- COMMENTS ABOVE THIS LINE -->

Lex T/C Guest Book 00:20, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You do not understand the beginning statement. It means that the voting will start on November 1, and candidates must have 1000 edits (regardless of when they got the, [attaching a date would be irrelevant]). You seem to not understand the statement, and I will readd myself to the candidates, as this takes time away from the questions. If you would like to abide by your own way to visualize the statement, then ask the Village Plump, or if you may like, the ArbCom themselves. Good Night and Good Luck, Lex T/C Guest Book 00:31, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You don't get it yourself at least other people came up and told you This is a Secret account 00:37, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They are also wrong. Yet, after Guy's comments, I decide to not run because he is right. I should be withdrawn per WP:SNOW. Lex T/C Guest Book 00:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ilavida

Coincidentally I see that you have deleted a notable article about one of the most important Hindu epics, Ilavida. I am assisting user Kreedanthi, who posted the question on the Help Desk. Please answer there. Regards, Lex T/C Guest Book 00:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article consisted of

Ilavida was the daughter of the Rishi Bharadwaja and the sister of the Rishi Garga. She married Rishi Vishrava and bore him a son, Kubera, the Lord of Wealth and the original ruler of Lanka.

Vishrava left his wife and son after meeting the Asura Princess Kaikesi, with whom he fell in love. Through her, he fathered another four children, Ravana, Vibhishana, Kumbakarna and Soorpanaka. When Ravana invaded Lanka and usurped Kubera's throne, a disgusted Vishrava left his demonic family and returned to Ilavida, never to see Kaikesi or her offspring ever again.

No claim of notabilty, doesn't really tell what it is This is a Secret account 00:57, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So if the user sources the information, will you green-light the article? Lex T/C Guest Book 01:08, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's why I deleted the article in the first place, I didn't repond to her earlier because I didn't go on today until an hour ago. This is a Secret account 01:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DRV notice

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Brady Leaf. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Jreferee t/c 19:55, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blocking

Please don't threaten to block me for disrupting afd's unless you can show evidence of this disruption. I have certainly never tried to be disruptive and have only acted in good faith. I don't see how any of the afd closures I did could be called disruptive. The very worst I could be accused of is being somewhat premature. My regards to you. RMHED (talk) 01:09, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Durova's talk page

I reverted your blanking on Durova's talk page for now, but could you explain why you removed that post without an edit summary? Videmus Omnia Talk 01:32, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Who is the banned user? Videmus Omnia Talk 01:34, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, OK. Could you point me to the checkuser? Videmus Omnia Talk 01:36, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ask Durova for that, but from dealing with some socks of Ammorrow in the past, looking at the contribs, it's obvious that Songgarden is him, including an harrassment post of SlimVirgin a victim of his horrible harrassment. Even if it's not him, which doubt, it's an obvious WP:SPA troll. This is a Secret account 01:42, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. It would have been better if you had indicated that in your edit summary when you removed the person's post. Videmus Omnia Talk 01:44, 22 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

School notability guideline

I've created a project page: Wikipedia:SCHOOLCONSENSUS; I'd be very happy to see your draft in the reference section.--victor falk 05:37, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I been editing sporatic this holiday, I'll create it when I'm fully back This is a Secret account 20:51, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Brett Favre list

Hi. I recently received a request to undelete List of career achievements by Brett Favre but you deleted the latest version so I referred them to you. However, I notice that you and I both deleted that article as a creation by different banned users! Do you think the Tecmobowl/Jmfangio socks are related to the Starwars1955 socks? I know of no connection but it's a hell of a coincidence that both would create the same article. —Wknight94 (talk) 15:55, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Doubt they are related, just by the article versions themselves, one is starwars prefered section, and another one is the consensus version, don't restore by the way. This is a Secret account 20:53, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oakland Raiders (aka the Raider Nation)

Can you unprotect the page Oakland Raiders? It's been over 2 months and vandalism levels should have decreases by now. 69.181.230.137 (talk) 04:01, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Triple crown

Would you select three, or six, and format them for the award? I tightened up on the submission a few months ago because it was getting backlogged from requests that required extensive search through user histories. User:Durova/Triple_crown_winner's_circle#To_request_a_triple_crown DurovaCharge! 20:30, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RfC

I notice that you locked the RfC page, so I thought I'd mention that I just 'closed' the talkpage discussion on Durova's RfC. I assume it was the correct thing to do. Lsi john (talk) 00:06, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:1993 Topps Pete Incaviglia.jpg

Hi. A while back you replaced a deleted article for me 1993 Topps. The image that was with it was also deleted. I was wondering if you could restore it or do I have to upload it again? Libro0 (talk) 06:39, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

T206 Honus Wagner

Thought you might want to know about this. Thanks again for mentioning the article on IRC a few months ago. :) Nishkid64 (talk) 06:05, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Arbcom voting pages

Hiya,

I see these have been created and linked (eg from statements).

How are votes and comments before 3 December being dealt with?

Would it be wise to overwrite each page with a blank ("This page is not open yet. Comments here will be removed." under the statement for example) that can be rolled back at 00.00 Dec 3? Or protect them?

Just a thought. If there is a page, people will write on it.....

FT2 (Talk | email) 16:51, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

MastCell

Can you explain your reasoning further? I don't see why using IRC or "the" mailing list (what mailing list? obviously no-one's talking about arbcom-l here) should be mandatory, but I'd like to hear your thoughts. —Random832 01:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

About Giano's "near" 90-day block

Just an FYI, if you looked closely, the proposed "remedy" was pushed by a couple of arbiters who don't like Giano much. There was little, if anything, to support such a measure, which is why it failed 5-7. Not trying to get you to change to support, I'm just giving you an FYI. Mr Which??? 03:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I saw you speedily deleted this article. Being as the group had a #25 pop hit in the US (see List of 1990s one-hit wonders in the United States), can I have the article restored? I can fix it up if it's not in good shape. Chubbles 21:00, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Chubbles 17:16, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I must say your comments here were not very appropriate. Threatening a block before any explanations have been given? How is that acceptable? Your actions, and the actions of User:Hemlock Martinis (blocking administrator) were unnecessary, and uncalled for. Opposed to biting the newcomers (although I admit it is odd that a new account went to ArbCom elections almost immediately, but AGF), I took the time to explain to the user what the problem was. Today, the user was unblocked and rightfully so. Just be a bit more civil next time, please. - Rjd0060 17:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comments like this is obvious trolling, I stand by my comment and I'm in shock that he was unblocked. This is a Secret account 00:17, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't "obvious trolling". The problem was never explained to the user, which should have happened, as specifically stated in the blocking policy. - Rjd0060 (talk) 00:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Excuse me while I butt in here, "This is a secret account" That clue is something to question, why that name, hmmm? Please stop using the word "trolling", especially preceded by "obvious". It is being used much too liberally here lately. This is becoming a huge problem on Wikipedia, not the trolls but the throwing the word around lightly for anyone who writes something that could be a bit adversarial. It takes away the serious meaning when one is "truly" "trolling"... a serious offense, not to be taking lightly. How in the heck can you determine that from behind a computer, anyway? You cannot know a person's intent by just looking at some words typed. My gosh, even in psychology, the "experts" have to see body, facial and a number of other "clues" to judge a behavior. Please stop playing cops and psychologists without a valid license. Now, even if any of you do have one, you cannot do it over the internet and if you think you can, the license needs to be revoked. - Jeeny (talk) 01:20, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I wish I had your secret powers. ;p - Jeeny (talk) 09:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank goodness there are a few sane admins around. I have hope again. Still, needs some type of overhaul though. - Jeeny (talk) 09:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Puxxled

Hello Secret - what does "CBD" refer to? (You mentioned it in your vote on Swat). I think maybe Swat wouldn't have been drawn to Genteen's page if you hadn't started it! I really don't see anything wrong with what he did btw. (Sarah777 (talk) 00:11, 7 December 2007 (UTC))[reply]

The editor who opposed a couple above you, oppose 88. This is a Secret account 00:12, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Still puxxled - not familiar with the term "resign your bit"! But it sounds kinda hostile -:) (Sarah777 (talk) 00:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC))[reply]

He was saying that a editor whose only edit the deletion of his nn band by the admin, and the blanking of the same admin userpage is a blockable offence, even without any warning. This is a Secret account 00:33, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RFA

Yes, I noticed. I stated my piece and he responded as is his right. I don't need to have the last word. Cheers, Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:02, 7 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

bad speedies

You just deleted 3 articles on churches under WP:CSD A7, not notable. Grace Church (Maryland Heights, Missouri), "Jackson First Church of the Nazarene and Our Lady of Grace (Howard Beach) Where does it say that churches are subject o speedy--there's a list of the types of things that are, and only those may be deleted. Please restore them and send them to Prod, where they belong. If we admins dont do things right, people will lose respect for speedy altogether.

You also deleted Cornell Ranger as nn. But its a robot,not a person, and that also doesnt fit.(& it may beven be notable. Please restore it. DGG (talk) 09:52, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yo

Yo Jaranda, it is nice to see you back on wikipedia, and sorry about that stupid stuff i was involved with before, hope it was'nt the reason you quit the first time, can we still be friends.Thanks.--Sunderland06 18:09, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removing votes from indef blocked users

Hi, I noticed that you indented User:Arkalochori's various votes since the user has since been indef-blocked. I'm not sure where it says that a user's votes should be stricken if they voted before they got blocked (although it certainly makes sense to me). If we are doing that, you may wish to strike User:Dbuckner's votes as well since he has been indef blocked. JoshuaZ (talk) 18:52, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]