User talk:Nmate

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Hungarian Wikipedians' notice board

Hi. You might be interested in checking out the Wikipedia:Hungarian Wikipedians' notice board. All Wikipedians interested in Hungary or subjects somehow related to Hungary are invited to use this noticeboard as a tool for better organizing their activities, making announcements to others with similar interests, and discussing any actual issues related to their work on Wikipedia. You are welcome to add this notice board to your watchlist, so that you could see when it is updated and thus take part in any projects, initiatives, and improvements relating to articles about Hungary. Also, you are welcome to report your own articles here so they could be peer-reviewed and expanded by other contributors. Hobartimus (talk) 03:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Kosice

Thank you for adding more famous people to the Kosice article. Next time, could you add only persons with their own article in Wikipedia please? We are trying to avoid the so-called "red links" (i.e. links to non-existing articles) or names without any link. Another possibility is to create an article for each person you add. For example, Róza Déryné Széppataki would be a good candidate for a new article. If you happen to have any more information about here, you can click on the red link to her name and create a new article. Also the description of the person and his/her connection to Kosice in the list of famous people should be as short as possible. That is why MarkBA and I have copyedited your edit. Cheers. Tankred (talk) 16:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Alternatively you can simply delink the name (write it witout the [[) Róza Déryné Széppataki would look like Róza Déryné Széppataki without the link. I would also add that while red links are sometimes avoided that is not always the case for example I could count about 100 red links(just a guess) in the List of Slovaks Hobartimus (talk) 16:51, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

No, we usually do not mention people without an article in Wikipedia in articles about cities and towns. List of Slovaks and other similar lists are full of red links in order to encourage people to write new articles. Articles about cities and towns do not serve this purpose. Red links and delinked names of non-notable people usually prevent an article about a city to achieve a higher status (GA or FA). This practice is strongly discouraged in this type of articles. Tankred (talk) 19:38, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually it can serve the same purpose it's that the city articles are more visible and they can help more with starting new articles. Red links do motivate people to at least start a stub on the person. And if some peoples' eyes are 'hurt' by red links they can still be easily de-linked. Hobartimus (talk) 20:52, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

If you do not believe, try to nominate an article for GA or FA. You will see how it works. Tankred (talk) 02:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I know you have made your edits in good faith and I do not want to be discouraging or something, but your today's edits were written in a very bad English and it was sometimes really difficult to figure out what exactly you meant. It took a lot of time to copyedit them. There are also two other points I would like to make: First, the history section of Kosice is supposed to be a short overview and it would be nice if you could think more about your additions in terms of the overall length of an article. What I mean is that a significant part of the section now talks about how Kosice changed hands in the turbulent 17th century. I left it there, but I am sure someone else will cut that paragraph because this kind of information is not very interesting for an English-speaking reader. The overall story and quality of prose are paramount here. Second, you did not provide any citations. Please read WP:CITE and apply it. It is one of the main pillars of this encyclopedia. Again, I do not want do discourage you from editing the English Wikipedia, but it would be perhaps a good idea to spend some time in the Hungarian Wikipedia first and familiarize yourself with the system. Writing an English encyclopedia requires a reasonably good command of English. Tankred (talk) 21:20, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for adding properly formatted citations templates. But, unfortunately, sister Wikipedias in other languages are not considered reliable secondary sources here. So, please do not cite the Hungarian Wikipedia. Instead you are more than welcome to cite verifiable published works, such as books and articles (as you have already done on several occasions). Cheers. Tankred (talk) 00:13, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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Possible harassment by user:MarkBA

Hi I'm concerned that you might feel harassed by this user whose action might be in violation of Wp:AGF, WP:HAR, WP:BITE, WP:NPA. This user openly(!) admits having prejudice against "most but not all" Hungarians (diff [1]) and refers to the mere presence of Hungarian editors as a "difficulty" and that he sees his own editing as "keeping them (sic) at bay" (diff [2]). Since you are a new user it is imperative that actions possibly intended to discourage you from editing not be allowed. Also please remember to try to remain calm and try not to react to any possible provocation or harassment coming from other editors. Hobartimus (talk) 20:26, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi Hobartimus! You are right.Nmate

Hobartimus, you are misrepresenting facts as always. What I should do when you have done more damaging edits in sum than I did? I find this intolerable. Please stop harassing me.

Your level of English

Since you are not only a new user but as far as I can tell one that's having some problems with language barriers it would be a good idea to indicate this to other editors. Your actions might be completely misunderstood because of language difficulties or it might be assumed that an edit is vandalism or was made in bad faith when in fact it was a bad choice of words. It's also good to indicate it to others the need to use simple English as far as they are able when communicating with you to ensure better understanding. You can do this by placing a language template on your user page user:Nmate. Hobartimus (talk) 20:51, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

A template would look like this

en-2This user can contribute with an intermediate level of English.

en-1This user can contribute with a basic level of English.

to place it you can type {{user en-2}} or whatever level is good for you. Hobartimus (talk) 20:53, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Your comments

I repeat: adding POV tags without proper explanation is vandalism. You have stated something like "because I want". An equivalent would be if I'd put POV tags across Hungarian articles. Why do you refuse to answer to questions? Are you even interested in making a better encyclopedia? MarkBA ^{what's up?/my mess} 11:28, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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Great Moravia sources

Yes, I think these may be cited. At the first one I don't know who the author is, so from the first reference it would probably be better to use the sources the author used (see literature at the bottom of the page).
This is a good article, so I'd start with the reference from the Hungarian Academy of Sciences. Squash Racket (talk) 16:13, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Warning

Please stop harassing MarkBA as you did here [3]. ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 19:07, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Civility warning

I warn you for the last time, remain strictly civil and do not harass other editors including me. Next time I will report you to the administrators. ≈Tulkolahten≈^≈talk≈ 12:35, 26 March 2008 (UTC)