User talk:Tankred

Košice

Hi there. I just wanted to tell you that I'm (almost) done for my own part in the Košice article. If you wish, you may continue improving. MarkBA ^{what's up?/my mess} 23:20, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

So I've made some more edits, primarily adding refs into history. Now I'd need you to check for missing parts/inaccuracies, references, quite likely for copy-editing and completing short sections. If you wonder why do I ask so much, well, that's because I want to put this one on GAR sooner or later (and of course, to put other sometime as well). MarkBA ^{what's up?/my mess} 20:11, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, I don't know what I can expand or correct in the two sections you mentioned. As for Culture, I don't know what is possible to add into Religion and into "Other" section (or maybe to integrate that one elsewhere?). For Sights, that needs quite good rewrite, not only trying to integrate churches into text. Some parts look more like a tourist guide right now. Oh, and I'd check Economy as well, because I'm not sure for length as well for general accuracy. But I agree, it looks better than it used to. MarkBA ^{what's up?/my mess} 22:43, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Ahoj Tankred,

I think there are some important thing in Kassa's history which they are not in this article.
There was the first Hungarian peridocal called Magyar Museum in the whole uhorsko in the 18th century. This city was the most important center of the Hungarian culture and the Hunngarian language innovation movement.
Besides the Czechoslovak Legions killed Hungarian and German people on 15 March 1919 because they protested against of the Czechoslovak occupation.

On top of there is in the article:East Slovak Ironworks caused population the city were built. and the construction and expansion of the East Slovak Ironworks caused population growth from population of 60,700 in 1950 to 235,000 in 1991 and in the end it was the fifth largest city in Czechoslovakia. In fact the East Slovak Ironworks was built because the Czechoslovak government wanted to change the proportion of the ethnic groups in the city.why isn't it in this objective article?

--Famous people--

Can you tell me why were so few Hungarian famous people born live and death in this city over the past 1000 years? Although its true there are some unknown Slovak sportsman and artist but it isn't probably that they are inhabitants.

Cheers Dovidenia Nmate

As anyone else, you are welcome to edit any article, including the one about Kosice. When you do it, please follow the guidelines, such as WP:NPOV, WP:CITE, and WP:CITE. Frankly, I do not know any serious published source claiming that the Czechoslovak government launched its industrialization program after WWII in order to change ethnic structure. As far as I know, Communists were obsessed with the class structure instead. As to the notable residents of Kosice, it would be great if you could find more of them with an article in Wikipedia (i.e. no red links) - regardless of their ethnicity. I am trying to periodically update lists of famous people in articles on my watchlist, but your help would be appreciated. Tankred (talk) 23:36, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Tankred,

I read about history of kosice(kassa) in this article and I think that few thing happened in kosice(kassa) from 1300 to 1918. It is so as somebody would be copied this history in it from a Slovak guidebook.It is on deail that what built there. I can translate these things from Hungarian but I can not write English so well as you or MarkBa and it is important that the new informations that join to the article.

Al the best from Hungary.Nmate —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmate (talk • contribs) 08:30, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Thanks for your support at my request for adminship, which passed today with 42/0/0! I would like to thank Wizardman for nominating me, [[User:Tankred|Tankred]] and everyone else for their support and comments. I'll continue with contributing to the encyclopedia's content (hopefully writing an FA here and there :) and will help out with admin-related tasks which you just entrusted me with. If you need any help, don't hesitate to ask! Thanks again, —dima/talk/ 01:37, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Elmer Valo

Hi. My father was born in Ribnik and was a distant relative of Elmer Valo. Quite some time ago I made some edits to the Elmer Valo article (even before I was a registered user), and if you have time I'd like you to look at it for accuracy. Elmer was one of the very few Slovak born US baseball players. Dan D. Ric (talk) 16:31, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Pressburg

Yes, of course it is. My brain is getting old.

Thanks. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:08, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Do you think changing to Brno would be better, to avoid the eszett-warriors.

Septentrionalis PMAnderson

I've tweaked slightly: the problem is common to (I think) all search engines, not just Google; but it is not impossible that one of them will give total uses of the search term. If this seems too pedantic, feel free to revert. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 21:25, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi Tankred,

I read what you had answered me about Kassa ('"now Kosice"') and I will respond You about It soon. Before I would like to write you about Pozsony ('"now Bratislava"'). I come from Hungary and I think you are a Slovak because You have been working on a lot of Slovakian history's article in the wikipedia. I wrote to the Milan Rastislav Stefanik article when there was that "had to change the high school several times (Bratislava, Sopron, Szarvas)."I had added that Bratislava Hungarian(Pozsony) and You erased It. But I know that Bratislava as official city name was not exist before the 20th century. And only as unofficial city name existed in the 19th century but L'udovit Stúr and his friends knew and used It however the Slovak population did not It. Although It is true that Stefánik was the most important Slovak national hero (but It is true too that his name is totally unknown in Hungary therefore I made the article about Stefánik in the Hungarian wikipedia) and that I think the absolutely Bratislava name to use in this article would be Ok. But I do not understand this logica in other articles on the English wikipedia. For example History of Bratislava->Notable historical figures: Karl Jetting (1730–1790) - the "Robinson of Bratislava". I think Robinson of Bratislava is very anachronistic and funny because this city name was not exist in this time and he was a poor German man obviously, and all the German people were transported from the city after the World War II. Another one example Bratislava->History: Bratislava Castle destroyed by fire in 1811 This is an anachronistic sentence too because the Bratislava as unofficial name was not exist in this time (L'udovit Stúr was born in 1915). I think it would be better: Pozsony (now Bratislava) Castle destroyed by fire in 1811. Although a lot of Slovak people think the previous sentence would be better because they are use to the Bratislava name in all their life but there is the English wikipedia and if the Hungarian people read these articles then they might thing the Slovaks want to steal of their history. All the best from Hungary Nmate

Please read WP:NCGN. This is the English Wikipedia and what we care about is the geographic name as it appears in recent English sources, not how Slovaks or Hungarians called that place a hundred years ago. Use in modern English is the main criterion. Tankred (talk) 18:21, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Tankred!I made a lot of work to you so it is embarrassing me argue with you. I am not going to write own articles to the English wikipedia because I can not write so well as for example you. But it is not enough if you can write English very well and you have only Slovak sources about historical Hungary because these sources are all prejudiceds and anachronistics so it is senseless refer to them in the wikipedia. Besides Slovakia as country is anachronistic also. I saw a table on the castle of Bratislava that Bratislavsky hrad slovenska narodne pamiatka. In fact It is national inheritance for somebody but It is impossible to write objectice articles from this country's historybooks and guidebooks and You and MarkBA can not translate the Hungarian sources. I would not like to be impolite you because I know You are clever and You would like to write good articles to the wikipedia but there is a Hungarian point of joke : all own Slovakia's history It is possible to send a short mobile phone's text message. Why do you think that these new informations and people are not so interesting as L'udovit Stúr or Pavol Jozef Safranek for the English readers? Thats amazing that you have not heard about them before and you want to write articles about the history of historical Hungary's cities. History of Kosice is unimaginable without these imformations and people what I had wrote to the article and what you corrected it more better. I am going to add to the article more objective refers as your useless prejudiced and anachronistc refers. For example I am amazed that the Bratislava and the history of Bratsilava articles historical parts are full unimportant Slovak people and unimportant Slovak historical events. But there is nothing about those events which are the Hungarian history's pillars. These articles are very unfairs. About 20000 so important Hungarian and German people lived in the city as L'udovit Stúr. I believe Stúr is not intresting the English readers because He was an extraordinary member of Hungarian Diet and He was not popular at the Slovak people in his life only He is important for the Slovaks now because He fought against Hungary. I think both articles should be corrected because the important historical events should be there and so Slovak historical event is not exist before the 20th century.

Važeny Pan Tankred!I do not understand that what does it mean this sentence in the stefánik article: (which was threatened by Hungarian troops of Béla Kun at that time)which means for a nation threating a city that it means try to liberate same the city for another one nation.Hungarian troops threatened only Czechoslovak legio which captured the city.Cheers Nmate

Hi Tankréd!

You do not believe it that we should not deal with the past? Let us (Slovaks and Hungarians) agree upon the fair transliteration of Bratislava's history then protecting. The edit war is avoidable if the history will be fair. If not, the cascade protection NPOV template will be put out finally to all of Bratislava topics.Cheers Nmate —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmate (talk • contribs) 10:20, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Portal:Slovakia

Hi Tankred. As you see, a portal is made of separate "templates" and you can edit each of them by clicking "edit" next to a header (it should be to the right). I'm not just in favour putting Bratislava on - too much fights then. Which biography you choose is up to you. When you've mentioned number of GAs let's hope we will get them more (!). MarkBA ^{what's up?/my mess} 15:49, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

If you're interested, I've sent you messages to read. Cheers, MarkBA ^{what's up?/my mess} 22:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks Tankred. It's Sunday, a good day to edit Wikipedia. Lisa the Sociopath (talk) 03:28, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

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		I award you with this barnstar for continuous effort in the WikiProject Slovakia. Keep working! ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 20:54, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

slovakia

tell me am I wrong on slovak page? Due to wikipedia there should be used correct names. Czechoslovakia were created from The Kingdom of the Bohemian Crown Lands (that measn Kindgdom of Bohemia, margraviate of Moravia, part of silesia and part of Kindom of Hungary - todays slovakia.) Truth should prevail instead of your patriotism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.208.38.206 (talk) 17:48, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

You wrote: "Kingdom of Bohemia and magyar regions of Slovakia and Moravia". I do not know what exactly you consider "magyar [sic] regions of Slovakia and Moravia", but this description is clearly incorrect because (1) even Slovak regions without any sizable Magyar population joined Czechoslovakia and (2) there are no Magyar regions of Moravia. Moreover, the region of Bohemia, not the Kingdom of Bohemia (which ceased to exist), became part of Czechoslovakia. By the way, Kingdom of Bohemia is only a redirect to Bohemia in Wikipedia. Tankred (talk) 17:57, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Where exactly did Kingdom of Bohemia ceased to exist? Kingdom of bohemia lasted from 1084 - 1918. No matter what population is some region consisted of. Kingdom of Bohemia is shorted official name for Bohemia. Official royal name is "The Kingdom of the Bohemian Crown Lands"

Austria-Hungary consisted of:

Kindoms: - k. of dalmatia - k. of galicia - k. of hungary - k. of croatia - k. of bohemia

Archdukes: - Lower Austria - Upper Austria

and couple lower parts yea but we can call Moravia - Margraviate of Moravia, in order to use really correct names.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.208.38.206 (talk) 20:36, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Sources

Hi Tankred!I am going to change my Hungarian wikipedia refers, but I can not imagine which are your Slovak'sources if you have not heard about for example Stephen Bocskay or Gabriel Bethlen and You live here (Slovakia). All the best from Hungary Nmate

First, the sources I have used are usually cited in the articles I have edited. Whenever possible, I use reliable English sources (such as peer-reviewed academic articles or monographs). I resort to foreign language sources only if I cannot find any sources in English. Second, I would like to ask you to tone down your negative comments about other editors and nations. For example, your assertion that I have never heard about Bocskay or Bethlen sounds ridiculous not only because you have absolutely no information about my knowledge, but also because I wrote about Bethlen in Banska Bystrica a long time ago. Similarly, your comments about the Slovak history (especially the one that the whole history of Slovakia is so short that it can be sent by a cell phone text message) are not appreciated. Third, it is not your business where I live. Thank you in advance for changing your communication style. Tankred (talk) 19:12, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi Tankred!I have not had any information about Your knowlegde indeed but You wrote me that You dont think that they are interesting for the English readers.So I think You do not know them and I so felt that You was disparaging them.Nmate —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmate (talk • contribs) 20:12, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Edit Summaries

Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit of yours has an edit summary that appears to be inaccurate or inappropriate. Please use edit summaries that accurately tell other editors what you did, and feel free to use the sandbox for any tests you may want to do. Thank you. [1], [2], [3]
Administrator told me to use warning templates before a report. Squash Racket (talk) 04:41, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

What the Hell? Could you elaborate on this? I consider these edit summaries very descriptive. What exactly do you consider "wrong"? Tankred (talk) 04:43, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

"Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. Even harmful edits that are not explicitly made in bad faith are not considered vandalism. Careful attention needs to be given to whether changes made are beneficial, detrimental but well intended, or outright vandalism."

Hobartimus was not stalking you in any way, he has already engaged in both editing the article and discussing issues on the talk page. Squash Racket (talk) 04:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

If a user deletes a huge chunk of an article and replaces "of notable people who either:" by a word that does not make any sense in the given context ("whom"), it seems to be an example of vandalism and weird English. Hobartimus had not edited that article since February. However, he reverted my edit immediately after I did it. It is not for the first time. He has reverted even my copyediting on several occasions! Yes, I feel such behavior is stalking. Please use warning templates with more caution next time. Tankred (talk) 04:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

You received your warning, I don't have to go into this in detail, an administrator can decide if you understand the rule or not. And talking of WP:Stalking: you right now seem to follow a new user reverting him everywhere. Squash Racket (talk) 05:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

That (hopefully really new) user has broken WP:NCGN in almost all his edits. I have merely fixed that. Tankred (talk) 05:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Really? Squash Racket (talk) 05:09, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, really. If you read my sentence again, you will surely find the word "almost" there. Tankred (talk) 05:11, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Hobartimus posted his message earlier than me (see page history), so this next highly offensive edit summary was also unjustified. Squash Racket (talk) 17:36, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

names

Ahoj!

The guideline(?) you showed says "Historical names or names in other languages can be used in the lead if they are frequently used and important enough to be valuable to readers, and should be used in articles with caution."

The name "Bratislava" was invented in 1919. Every article calling Bratislava Bratislava before 1919 is false. For example Štúr's reality was not "Bratislava" and "Trnava" and such. It would be funny if he would have fought against these. Try to think about it for a minute. This is why i wrote the summary "his reality" in my edits, you wonderFULLY deleted. It worth those two hours from my life to be ruined in some ten minutes, by a fellow, really, really really thank you, you just winded your way into my heart. Maybe you should have tried to talk to me before you deleted everything.

As i see, this WP:NGCN stands only for me, since you deleted some alternative names[4]. I C.

In the 19th century, those cities and towns were not called what they are called here on wikipedia, per Gdansk/Danzig. i will write them back, and do not try to delete them, because it would be a type of falsification of history, called "anachronism" (click&read), and because it is allowed by the WP:NCGN. I read some about wikipedia before i started editing, so i know there will be such users like you, who plays out wikirules to spead their views, but i didn't expected to find one almost immediately. And in such a lame topic, where everything is pretty obvious for everybody, who had a map printed before 1900 in his/her hands and had an interest in it. Or in history. So i say WP:IGNORE. If you want, you can WP:RfC or WP:AC or something similar.

I got a brief description of you and your style and mentality in mail, i know what to expect from you, and the games you play, so i cut it short: If you start a WP:EW, I'll go for a WP:RFAR and your essay will be dismissed, aswell as your behave punished, i hope. Play this with someone else, and delete that ones edits, leave me alone, please. I put time (resarch) and energy into my edits, to >>>make those articles historically correct<<<, while you obviously did not, just hit the undo buttons as fast as you can and as many times as you can. Well, i can do that too. You're damaging wikipedia with your behaviour and mentality, and aggravate the relation between the hungarian and the slovak editors. Please, refrain from editing wikipedia.

Dobrý večer, nikdy viac dovidenia
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Hedvig Malina

Since you sort of settled the "dispute" tag issue, I'll ask for your view. As you can see from Talk:Hedvig_Malina#The_name and from Talk:Hedvig_Malina/Archive_1#Hedviga_Malinov.C3.A1_vs._Hedvig_Malina, it seems to have been settled. One person continuing vague complaints is not a dispute. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:32, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Your behaviour

Hi Tankréd.

Have your rheumatism treated in the spa in Trenčianske Teplice, instead of that complaints would fabricate against me. I called nobody for villain! .