Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The Stolen Earth/archive1

The Stolen Earth

Nominator(s): Sceptre ^(talk)

• Featured article candidates/The Stolen Earth
• Featured article candidates/The Stolen Earth/archive1

"The Stolen Earth" was an episode of Doctor Who that aired last week. As part of a season finale, the amount of source material was so abundant it was easy to flesh out the episode's comprehensiveness and notability. I am nominating this article because I feel it passes the criteria set out at WP:FA?. While the page has had a large amount of editing over the past week, in the past few days most edits have been towards the same end, not in conflict with each other, and not significant changes. Thanks to Seraphim Whipp, who checked the article for prose. Sceptre ^(talk) 16:19, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• I suggest shrinking the image in the infobox to 230px width so that it does not stretch the infobox for no reason.
• "(5-July" – en dash for date ranges in the references
• "planets — including" – this is spaced but unspaced em dashes are also used in the article. Choose one.
• soothsayer links to a disambig page

Gary King (talk) 17:57, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

• • (1) The image default is 275px per WP:WHO#MOS, which stretches the box by very little (note the line "Executive producer(s)" which takes full column width).
  • (4) That's because "Soothsayer" is an umbrella term; we can't link to any specific page. I think the link to the current dab page is warranted in this instance. — Edokter • Talk • 18:07, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah okay Gary King (talk) 18:14, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

The other two are done (I think). And yeah, I deliberately kept the link to the disambiguation because the ref says "soothsayer" and the page gives the definition while disambiguating. Might do with a link to wikt:soothsayer, though. Sceptre ^(talk) 18:57, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Comments - Haven't really had time for an in-depth look, these are just some superficial comments on the prose.

• "The Stolen Earth" is the twelfth episode of the fourth series and 750th overall episode of British science fiction television series Doctor Who." - you're missing a "the" in there.
• The second and third sentences can be combined for better flow.
• "The episode is the first appearance..." -> "The episode contains the first appearance..."
• "...he is portrayed in "The Stolen Earth" by Julian Bleach." - the context makes it clear that it's referring to "The Stolen Earth"
• "The episode marks the return of several recurring characters, and crosses over with Doctor Who's spin-off series Torchwood and The Sarah Jane Adventures; it is the first Doctor Who appearance of Eve Myles as Gwen Cooper; Gareth David-Lloyd as Ianto Jones; Thomas Knight as Luke Smith; and Alexander Armstrong as the voice of Mr Smith." - why exactly is this one sentence?
• "Reviewers commended executive producer and writer Russell T Davies for his writing—in particular, the episode's final scenes—and Julian Bleach for his portrayal of Davros." - em dashes make too strong of a disjunction, consider rephrasing the sentence.

Nousernamesleft (talk) 22:07, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

• Done all. Sceptre ^(talk) 22:59, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

• "and the 750th overall episode[2]" - I don't think something that can be cited via an episode lists needs a ref (especially when the ref doesn't state this specifically). —Giggy 08:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

  The episode count is a small matter of contention within the show's fandom - there's disagreement on whether Shada, "Doctor Who: Children in Need", or "Time Crash" count towards it or not. Using an official source - in this case, the official magazine - reduces this contention. Sceptre ^(talk) 09:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

• oppose - Image:The Stolen Earth - Shadow Planets.png does not meet WP:NFCC#8, or #1, does not significantly increase the reader's understanding, and can easily be described with text Fasach Nua (talk) 11:20, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Image:Davros75-08.jpg fails WP:NFCC, is an image really needed to show that something is unchanged? can this be conveyed with GFDL text? how important is it? Fasach Nua (talk) 11:25, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Why is a BBC trademark Image:TARDIS-trans.png being used to advertise a competing commercial service on this article? It seems inappropriate to me Fasach Nua (talk) 11:54, 7 July 2008 (UTC)