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I moved this to "Whaleship Essex" because I believe that is the most common way to which it is referred. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dpbsmith (talk • contribs)

Crew List and other data from I'm adding (and will add) is from In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex by Nathaniel Philbrick; the actual book, not the article... --Moby 10:22, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The Pariahs

Opera about "Whaleship Essex" - The Pariahs by Leonard Kastle

This is a reminder to myself to include a description of this American opera and a link to a reference on it. It was first performed as excerpts from the full Opera in Albany NY 1986. I sang in the chorus. I didn't edit the article because I need a proper reference besides my own experiences which would be original research. The Opera takes place on Nantucket after the return of the survivors and features themes of forgiveness and redemption through faith which are common to Kastle's American Cycle of Operas.

Anyone think this addition would be inappropriate, please say so. Lisapollison 20:42, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting, I had never heard of this. Here's a google link to get you started: [1]. I'll try and find some time to read some of the results in the next few days. --Moby 08:49, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that the active link to Joseph West in the side bar is the same Joseph West intended (a senator from Louisiana instead of the crewman). I'd edit it myself, but I'm not sure how. January 29 2007.

Tonnage

I have changed the phrase "displaced 238 tons" to "measured 238 tons". Nathaniel Philbrick's book indicates that 238 tons was the diplacement or mass of the vessel, and calculations in the book on the collision are based on that assumption. That assumption appears however to be based on a primary source, the ship's 1799 register, which among other specifications states that "she measures two hundred thirty eight tons". 1799 register, as quoted in Heart of the Sea p. 241 at Penguin pbk edition, citing in turn Thos. Heffernan's Stove by a Whale (1981) at p. 10. As the primary source uses the word "measures" it seems appropriate to use that. There is a significant difference between the two terms. See Tonnage. If there is a primary source using "displacement" it should be cited. But as the primary source (the 1799 register) quoted in the secondary sources uses the term "measures" I have changed the article to conform. Kablammo 14:00, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moving

Shouldn't this be moved to Whaleship Essex tragedy? And what about the history of the whaleship? - PGSONIC 19:57, 30 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]