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[[File:Bilbao - San Vicente de Abando 13 cropped.JPG|thumb|left|<center><big>Ring out the old,<br> and Ring in the new.<br> Happy New Year!</big> <br> From [[User:FloNight|FloNight]]</center>]] |
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== Ban? == |
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I saw your RFA and mention of your ban. It is very easy to say "the ban was right", "I was wrong" when you are running for RFA. It is very difficult unless you have a death wish and want to lose the RFA to say "the ban process is not so good because of .....". Is the ban process and effect perfect? If not, what are the problems? If you wish to discuss this privately, you may. I have a beef about the block process because I've seen it used as a weapon and unfairly used. It happened to me 2 years ago. Adminstrators that I wrote to 2 years ago either ignored me or said the equivalent of "fuck you". So I can identify several problems without even thinking, one being incivility. [[User:Chergles|Chergles]] ([[User talk:Chergles|talk]]) 18:30, 25 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Discussing it here is fine. The whole ban/block process is a social system, and like any system like that its not perfect, never can be, and never will be. Was my ban good? I'm human so part of me (same as anyone) will want to say no, but at the time it was a good block. Maybe not the duration I would have liked, but once the chips were set for better or worse in that RFA I made no secret of saying "I was done with it", which wasn't exactly helpful or my finest hour in mid-2006. I think the wording in the subject of the edit when I decided was pretty obvious. I went from being 'me' to saying something like "the hell with it" and [[WP:NPA|launching hand grenades]] as fast as I could to get myself blocked. Which worked quite well, at the time, as we saw. |
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:Does that mean the entire system is FUBAR? Not at all. The problem is just people. We make stuff work good, or fantastically great, but we're also really good at making stuff not work so good, or fantastically bad. The more that people get involved in any big system, and not just involved, but engaged in it, the better it works. It's that simple, and thats not a Wikipedia thing (we think in our bubble too much which is honestly dumb). It's like that in government, business, family, friends, or any complex social situation. The more people aware of things, and ''caring'' enough to see them done right... the better it works. Visibility is always the key thing. Visibility, visibility, visibility, visibility, visibility, visibility, visibility. One of my favorite quotes is from [[Louis Brandeis]]: "Sunlight is the best disinfectant". |
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:It really is true. Be it a ban/block policy, shady business practices, government being out of touch or out of step, or finding out that your good friend has had a drinking or smack problem for years, but no one knew it since they were "functional". Unless the light shines in to let people see, no one will know that something, either a big system, or some dark tiny corner of it, isn't what it should be. If someone tries to keep that light out, then the problem probably isn't the ''system'' itself, but the person trying to keep shady. And that makes it a really easy problem to fix, then, at least in that given case. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 19:20, 25 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== Your RFA.. == |
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Best wishes for your RFA -- [[User:Tinucherian|'''<em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu</em>''']] [[User talk:Tinucherian|'''<em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian </em>''']] - 03:42, 28 January 2009 (UTC) |
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:Thank you. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 04:07, 28 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== Your RfA == |
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I sent you an e-mail. --[[User:KP Botany|KP Botany]] ([[User talk:KP Botany|talk]]) 04:25, 28 January 2009 (UTC) |
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: I just replied to you. I would be happy to continue the discussion here, or in e-mail. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 04:39, 28 January 2009 (UTC) |
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== you're an admin == |
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[[File:Triomphe de Marat4.jpg|right|thumb|250px|You did it!]] |
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&user=&page=User%3ARootology&year=&month=-1 Yes!] [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 03:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Congratulations! <font face="Verdana">[[User:Durova|<span style="color:#009">Durova</span>]]</font><sup>''[[User talk:Durova|Charge!]]''</sup> 03:52, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::Can't hold back sayin', given Durova's image at right along with Trusilver's wisdom, [[Jean-Paul_Marat#Marat.27s_death|beware the stirsome tidings of fetching editors]] ;) [[User:Gwen Gale|Gwen Gale]] ([[User talk:Gwen Gale|talk]]) 18:50, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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| '''It is my great pleasure to inform you that your [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Rootology|Request for Adminship]] has<br />[[Wikipedia:Recently_created_admins|closed successfully]] and you are [[Special:Log/rights|now an administrator]]!'''<br /> |
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'''Your admin logs:<br /><span class="plainlinks">• [{{fullurl:Special:Log/block|user=Rootology}} blocks] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/delete|user=Rootology}} deletions] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/move|user=Rootology}} moves] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/protect|user={{{2|Rootology}}}}} protects] • [{{fullurl:Special:Log/upload|user=Rootology}} uploads] •</span>''' |
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:<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — [[User:Rlevse|<b style="color:#060;"><i>R</i>levse</b>]] • [[User_talk:Rlevse|<span style="color:#990;">Talk</span>]] • </span> 03:54, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*Congrats! –[[User:Juliancolton|Juliancolton]] [[User talk:Juliancolton|<font color="#66666"><sup>'''T'''ropical</sup></font>]] [[Special:contributions/Juliancolton|<font color="#66666"><sup>'''C'''yclone</sup></font>]] 03:59, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*Congratulations! [[User:Shubinator|Shubinator]] ([[User talk:Shubinator|talk]]) 04:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*Indeed. '''''[[User:Tyrenius|<font color="#880088">Ty</font>]]''''' 04:39, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*Congrats! It's deserved. --[[User:Chasingsol|Chasingsol]][[User Talk:Chasingsol|<sup style="color:darkblue">(talk)</sup>]] 05:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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**Congratulations! '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 05:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Thank you everyone!! I'm totally and completely floored here. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 05:24, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*Congratulations, and good luck! [[User:Jayjg|Jayjg ]]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">[[User_talk:Jayjg|(talk)]]</font></small></sup> 05:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*So the community has not yet completely taken leave of their senses. Congratulations. [[User:Spartaz|Spartaz]] <sup>''[[User talk:Spartaz|Humbug!]]''</sup> 06:06, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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* Congratulations! [[User:Viridae|Viridae]][[User talk:Viridae|<small><sup>Talk</sup></small>]] 07:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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[[File:Admin T-shirt.svg|thumb|Hope it's the right size for you...]] |
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[[File:Janitor's bucket with mop.jpg|thumb|A mop to wield while wearing your T-shirt]] |
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* Congratulations from me too! [[User:Chamal_N|'''<span style="color:#000080">C</span>h<span style="color:#0000FF">a</span><span style="color:#4169E1">m</span><span style="color:#1E90FF">a</span><span style="color:#87CEEB">l</span>''']] [[User talk:Chamal_N|<sup>talk</sup>]] 07:53, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*Many congratulations from me. Use the tools well. --[[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 08:32, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*Thanks for your note, Rootology. I wish you the best of luck with adminship here -- [[User:Samir|Samir]] 08:34, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*...wait, you weren't an admin already? Congratulations, and my belated '''support'''. Apologies for not watching [[WP:RfA]] more closely. Cheers, [[User:Silly rabbit|<font color="#c00000">siℓℓy rabbit</font>]] ([[User talk:Silly rabbit|<span style="color:#FF823D;font-family:Monotype Corsiva;cursor:help"><font color="#c00000">talk</font></span>]]) 09:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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* Thanks for the note to let me know, I didn't watchlist it. I have to say that your honesty is what I liked, please continue to with that. I have to admit, I haven't communicated with you before, at least that I remember, but I do remember seeing you on boards and so forth and actually thought you were already in control of the tools. I think you will do just great with your new position. Congratulations again to you, --[[User:Crohnie|<span style="color:purpled">'''Crohnie'''</span><span style="color:deeppink">'''Gal'''</span>]][[User talk:Crohnie|<span style="color:deepskyblue"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]] 11:40, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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* You fall in my "What the fuck, he wasn't admin already?!?!?!111ONEONEONE" category. Congratulations (too bad I couldn't support earlier). Don't delete the main page today, keep that for later :). -- [[User:Lucasbfr|<span style="color:#002BB8;">lucasbfr</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Lucasbfr|<span style="color:#00BBBB;">talk</span>]]</sup> 11:49, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*Regarding the thankspam; you're very welcome, Rootology, and I wish you the best of luck with your new mop. Also, as a technical question, how is the entirety of your talk page some classy font? I'd love to apply that to my talk page! --<font face="script MT bold">[[User:Dylan620|Dylan620]] [[User talk:Dylan620|<sub>Hark unto me</sub>]]</font> 13:03, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*Congratulations! - Dan [[User:Dank55|Dank55]] ([[User talk:Dank55|send/receive]]) 13:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*About damn time.--[[User:Tznkai|Tznkai]] ([[User talk:Tznkai|talk]]) 13:59, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*Congrats.....and on Super Bowl Sunday no less...[[User:Modernist|Modernist]] ([[User talk:Modernist|talk]]) 14:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*I've been '''''root'''''ing for you for a long time, Rootology, since before you came back, as you know (but perhaps others do not). Way to go... Color me delighted! <small>(...and surprised no one used the "rooting" thing before me, what a bunch of punters...)</small> ++[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 14:36, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*Congrats. If you ever need help, let me know.[[User:Dlohcierekim|<font color="#00ff00"> Dloh</font>]][[User_talk:Dlohcierekim|<font color="#bb00bb">cierekim''' </font>]] 14:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*awwwwwww yeah <font face="Trebuchet MS"><b>— [[User:Neurolysis|<font color="#5A3696">neuro</font>]]</b><sup><i>[[User talk:Neurolysis|<font color="#5A3696">(talk)</font>]]</i></sup></font> 15:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Thank you again so much, everyone! I will not let you down. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 16:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*Congratulations. Just keep one thing in mind... In any position of power (and being an admin is a position of power, regardless of what anyone else says) it's easy to find sycophants who will tell you whatever you want to hear in the hopes that it will benefit them to do so. It's much harder (and nobler) to pay attention to those that disagree with you, those that disagreed with your appointment. I hope that now that your RfA has passed, you don't file it away and never look at it again. I hope that you keep it some place you can look on it frequently and make sure that you don't give the nay-sayers any reason to say "see! I told you he was a bad choice!" Good luck to you. [[User:Trusilver|<font color = "#ADA96E">Trusilver</font>]] 16:31, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Congrats is a bit late, but I've been at work finishing things up for Monday ^_^ '''[[User:Synergy|<font color="#222222" face="Times New Roman">Syn</font>]]'''[[User_talk:Synergy|<font color="#222222" face="Times New Roman">ergy</font>]] 20:00, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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* Mazel tov! -- <b><font color="996600" face="times new roman,times,serif">[[User:Levine2112|Levine2112]]</font></b> <sup><font color="#774400" size="1" style="padding:1px;border:1px #996600 dotted;background-color:#FFFF99">[[User talk:Levine2112|discuss]]</font></sup> 20:49, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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*Congratulations! <span style="color:Purple; font-size:15pt;">☺</span>[[User:Coppertwig|Coppertwig]] ([[User talk:Coppertwig|talk]]) 20:50, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Best of luck as an administrator, and good luck in general for the future. |
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<font face="Trebuchet MS"><b>— [[User:Neurolysis|<font color="#5A3696">neuro</font>]]</b><sup><i>[[User talk:Neurolysis|<font color="#5A3696">(talk)</font>]]</i></sup></font> 08:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Like I said before, this kind of breakdown rocks and makes understanding what happened even easier. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 20:15, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Cheers on your new mop [[User:Resident Mario|Resident Mario]] ([[User talk:Resident Mario|talk]]) 23:47, 1 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Thank you! <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 03:37, 2 February 2009 (UTC) |
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I missed the RFA, but congratulations, Root. <font color="#0000FF">[[User:Firsfron|Firsfron of Ronchester]]</font> 04:14, 2 February 2009 (UTC) |
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I missed it also, but congratulations! (you likely won't remember me, but I'm one of the random contributors to the old wa site. I thought it was a good idea then, I think that the community is now better at dealing with the kinds of problems that were documented) --[[User:Rocksanddirt|Rocksanddirt]] ([[User talk:Rocksanddirt|talk]]) 18:55, 2 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Belated congratulations to you. The good guys really can win. [[User:JBsupreme|JBsupreme]] ([[User talk:JBsupreme|talk]]) 17:15, 5 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Sorry it took me so long to get around to this, but let me echo the above editors and congratulate you. Your RfA was a positive step for the project as a whole. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] ([[User talk:Everyking|talk]]) 17:53, 5 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Congratulation my old friend, well deserved Barnstar == |
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This award is given to Rootlogy. Rootlogy, you epic story is an inspiration to all wikipedians! You show that everyone has an opportunity to be an administrator, and that change is truly possible on wikipedia. Congratulations on your growth and development here. [[User:Ikip|Ikip]] (travb/inclusionist) ([[User talk:Ikip|talk]]) 00:55, 2 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Congratulations on becoming an admin. I am so deeply happy for you. I wish I would have known about the RfA, and I would have heartily given my strong support with all my soul. My only worry, is that I hope you did not sacrifice your principles and core values to get where you are today. There was so much overlooked value to wikipedia in that feisty Rootology of years past, I hope the Rootology of today has simply matured, and the old Rootology has not died completely. |
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If you are interested, you can join the [[Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron]]. We have medals you can add to your user page:{{ARS-userpage|Example}}, like the good article and featured article medals you already have on your user page, awarded for rescuing good articles from deletion, see [[Wikipedia:Article_Rescue_Squadron/Hall_of_Fame#Award]]. [[User:Ikip|Ikip]] (travb/inclusionist) ([[User talk:Ikip|talk]]) 00:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Thank you, Trav. We are what we are, and I'm still willing to poke and prod when I think it's the right thing to do (I started the Protecting BLP survey, and was in that Sarah Palin RFAR...) but I hope I've figured out the right way and time, and the right reasons. I'm glad to see you're still around, too, man. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 03:35, 2 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::I sincerly hope we cross paths again. [[User:Ikip|Ikip]] ([[User talk:Ikip|talk]]) 11:41, 3 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Thankspam == |
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Normally I don't like thank-spam unless it's personalized, but your well-thought-out thank you was worth reading. [[User:davidwr|davidwr]]/<small><small>([[User_talk:davidwr|talk]])/([[Special:Contributions/Davidwr|contribs]])/([[Special:Emailuser/davidwr|e-mail]])</small></small> 01:30, 2 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Thank you, David. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 03:35, 2 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Hasbro movie images == |
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Thank you for uploading some images for the Super Bowl spot. However, as I've explained in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Transformers:_Revenge_of_the_Fallen&diff=prev&oldid=268038183 this] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=G.I._Joe:_The_Rise_of_Cobra&diff=prev&oldid=268039140 this] edit summary, copyrighted pictures have to provide a wider context and support the article. Images showing a character's depiction are more appropriate to their own articles. I'm sure there's other ''G.I. Joe'' screenshots that are more worthwhile, and I wonder whether you would upload them? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 14:50, 2 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:The one group shot I uploaded, in hindsight, isn't the best quality, and I set it to be deleted, along with the other, until it can be found for a better place to put it, or a better quality one. Those were, from that 30-second teaser, the highest quality ones, unfortunately. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 18:16, 2 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Final version == |
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As a contributor to [[Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content/RFC_on_use_of_sports_team_logos#Final_version|the discussion regarding sports team logos]], I am soliciting feedback as to the latest version of that guideline. Your support/opposition/feedback would be appreciated. <span style="background-color: maroon; color: white">[[User:BQZip01|<font color="white">'''— ''BQZip01'' —'''</font>]]</span> <sup>[[User_talk:BQZip01|talk]]</sup> 21:41, 2 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Recent RfA == |
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You're welcome for my support, Rootology. I think you've been an excellent and sensible editor these past few months, and I believe your return has been a huge positive: you'll be a great administrator. Best wishes. [[User:Acalamari|Acalamari]] 00:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Deletions of WSVN images == |
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You recently deleted several images from WSVN [[:File:WSVN_ANCHORS2.JPG|WSVN_ANCHORS2.JPG]], [[:File:Vivi_gonzo_Weasvn.JPG|Vivi_gonzo_Weasvn.JPG]], and [[:File:Donovan_campbell324.JPG|Donovan_campbell324.JPG]] from the [[Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2009_January_26]] page. I believe this was in error. There was no clear consensus that they should be deleted. You also reference NFCC#8 but I think I gave a clear reason why these images "significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic", that is, someone who has not seen the newscast (such as myself) will not know how the [[WSVN]] newscast looks without seeing pictures (or video, but that is less likely to be fair use). [[User:Lorax|Lorax]] ([[User talk:Lorax|talk]]) 03:23, 3 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Hi Lorax, I noted my concerns under NFCC#8, but also that in practice we don't do this sort of thing for these articles in general. The images being fair use, we have to be careful in their use--how does seeing the sportscaster tell us about sports on the news understand that a sportscaster tells us about sports on the news? My close, ultimately, was based on the consensus I saw there of the arguments. If you'd like to see the close reviewed, I don't object if you want to [[WP:DRV]] them. Just let me know if you do. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 07:09, 3 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Question about Wikiproject Barack Obama == |
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Hey. I was thinking about joining [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Barack Obama|WikiProject Barack Obama]] (I've already created two stories, [[2008 Barack Obama assassination scare in Denver|here]] and [[2008 Barack Obama assassination scare in Tennessee|here]], about assassination plots against Obama), but I'm still fairly new to Wikipedia altogether and have never joined a WikiProject before. I was wondering how it works exactly? Are you assigned tasks (like GAs to work toward, pages to clean up, stubs to expand) or do you just kind of work on whatever you want within the confines of the project? And is there a specific time commitment each week, or do you work at your own pace? Please let me know, I'd be very interested in contributing in the future. --[[User:Hunter Kahn|Hunter Kahn]] ([[User talk:Hunter Kahn|talk]]) 16:52, 3 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Hi! Anyone can join, go right ahead. No one is ever "assigned" tasks on Wikipedia, you contribute only what you have the time and energy to do. Basically, the project is just a central hub for people interested in working on similar articles, to get together at, bounce ideas, and share resources. Like me--I'm a terrible copyeditor and proofreader, but I think I'm good at building out pages and finding information. We have other editors that are great at our [[WP:MOS|Manual of style]] stuff, or are good copyeditors, but maybe not at writing. So, putting all three together, you can get a good, great, featured article maybe. I collect the info, write out the bulk, the copyeditor fixes it up and fixes my problems, then the MOS guy makes it shine. I build the car, the copyeditor tests it, adjusts it and fine tunes it, the MOS guy details it and makes it shine, then we all bask in the glory for a minute of having made something neat together, hopefully. You can also basically work on anything you want to--look at the Sandbox pages linked below the mountain on my userpage, [[Pike Place Market]], and the Favreau article I just wrote. Some people like to focus on one thing till it's done, I bang around a lot because I have writer's ADD and always want to work on the New Shiny Thing, and have a couple of pots cooking at once. That just comes down to your personal style, preference, and tastes. You can sign up and only do that one edit, or you can write a Featured Article a month. It's totally up to you. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 17:25, 3 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Also, I've nominated [[2008 Barack Obama assassination scare in Denver]] for GA; i tried to put it in the Article Alerts on the WikiProject page but don't know how to. --[[User:Hunter Kahn|Hunter Kahn]] ([[User talk:Hunter Kahn|talk]]) 16:52, 3 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:See the section that my Favreau article entry is in? Just try editing that, and enter yours--its ok if you break it, and I hope you do--it's the best way to learn the coding on the tables. :) We can fix it, anyone can, so it's never a worry. Not everyone has to know all the fancy code we ''can'' use. I have to struggle to do anything beyond basic tables half the time, and I've been using this software years. ;) <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 17:25, 3 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::Thanks for your quick response! I've joined the WikiProject, looking forward to working with it. Incidentally, I'm guessing there's nothing that would prohibit me from reading a GA nomination from someone else in the group? Because if not, I'd be happy to review the [[Jon Favreau (speechwriter)]] article. I've never done a GA review before, but I would be willing to try it. --[[User:Hunter Kahn|Hunter Kahn]] ([[User talk:Hunter Kahn|talk]]) 02:10, 4 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::I honestly don't know--like I said, I'm a terrible copyeditor, so I only write them, then leave them for others to review. You should ask at [[WT:GA]], since I honestly don't know if it's appropriate for people from the same Wikiproject to do that. Or ask at [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history]]. They'd probably be the authority on it, since I believe they're the most active content-focused Wikiproject on Wikipedia by far. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 02:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Re: Unbanned? == |
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Yes, that change was intentional. [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill]] <sup>[[User:Kirill Lokshin/Professionalism|[pf]]]</sup> 04:33, 5 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Well, no; if you're banned, then you're not permitted to edit Wikipedia ''at all'', and anyone proxying for you is liable to be sanctioned themselves, so that wording is simply redundant to existing policy. (There was some confusion about what it meant earlier, if I'm not mistaken.) [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill]] <sup>[[User:Kirill Lokshin/Professionalism|[pf]]]</sup> 04:40, 5 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Apology == |
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I've posted a general apology in my withdrawal statement at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/CheckUser_and_Oversight_elections/February_2009/Oversight/Dweller|the Oversight election page]], but I felt that as a contributor you deserve an individual apology too. |
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It was not my intention to let the election begin without a statement, but an IT gremlin "ate" my first attempt at posting there some hours before the election was to begin and then unforseeable RL issues prevented me from getting back to it until too late. Thank you for your consideration and sincere regrets for wasting your time. --[[User:Dweller|Dweller]] ([[User talk:Dweller|talk]]) 10:25, 6 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Pastor Leo == |
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I see that you have blocked Pastor Leo. I was once blocked after being falsely accused of sockpuppetry. Therefore, I am sensitive to the accusation. I prefer more black and white rationale. Clearly disruptive editing under a user name is valid grounds for blocking. Accusations of sockpuppetry can be abused and can be wrong. There is a role for that on occasion. |
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Keep this in mind as you exercise administrative powers. As much as possible, try to address editorial content and what the user actually edited. Note that I don't disagree with your block. I'm just asking you to look at it from a different perspective. Although I have not fully researched Pastor Leo's edits, my first impression is that disruptive editing would be a better reason for blocking. [[User:Chergles|Chergles]] ([[User talk:Chergles|talk]]) 17:49, 7 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:I absolutely agree, that's why I asked for review of the blocks on the ANI thread and also tossed out a ping on IRC asking for people to review it as well for an even wider audience. My reason for blocking as socks was the sudden appearance of "5" distinct users, 3 logged in and 2 IPs, all trying to get the same content forced into the article in short order, and all using the same or similar edit summaries. If it was just one, or probably even two, I'd have done exactly that, but it was the round-robin of it all that all but screamed one user, plus the extreme similarity in the IPs's edits to the users. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 17:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== You're and admin now? == |
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Funny to see you've become and admin, since a year or two ago you would've been the most hated person on WP. Good luck, [[User:Egebwc|Egebwc]] ([[User talk:Egebwc|talk]]) 22:31, 7 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Request for adminship... 3? == |
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Hi Rootology, it's now been over half a year since my [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Cyclonenim 2|previous request]] for the mop, and reviewing that RfA reveals that you were one of my opposers last time round. I was wondering if you'd like to comment on my current status in the Wikipedia community, and if you believe I would be ready to run for adminship again in future? Please respond wherever you feel it is most appropriate. Kind regards. —'''[[User:Cyclonenim|Cyclonenim]]''' ([[User talk:Cyclonenim|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Cyclonenim|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Cyclonenim|email]]) 16:25, 8 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Thank you for your response :) I'm (at least I hope) becoming more and more clueful in my AfD work as time goes by, so hopefully the incidence of these contentious AfDs will slow. I agree that an admin's role in AfD is far different, and I don't think I'd have too many problems determining consensus in a discussion. Thanks again for your response, feel free to contact me if you think of anything else. —'''[[User:Cyclonenim|Cyclonenim]]''' ([[User talk:Cyclonenim|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Cyclonenim|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Cyclonenim|email]]) 17:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== [[Blink-182]] full protection == |
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Hello Rootology, was wondering what the situation here was. I don't see any arguing on the talk page, and the page has been edited a relatively small number of times since its last protection. Is it really worth full protection for a week? [[User:GlassCobra|<font color="002bb8">Glass</font>]]'''[[User talk:GlassCobra|<font color="002bb8">Cobra</font>]]''' 03:02, 9 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:There had been an ongoing slow edit war going on that came up on RFPP. I've got no objections to it being unprotected in any way. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 04:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Hi, could you bring the protection level down to semi-protect. The band have [http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1604564/20090208/blink_182.jhtml officially] confirmed their reformation so the edit warring caused by people adding rumours and crystal balling the band's reformation should be resolved now. - [[User:Kollision|kollision]] ([[User talk:Kollision|talk]]) 04:31, 9 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Just did it, as a matter of fact. I'll keep an eye on it over the next few days. [[User:GlassCobra|<font color="002bb8">Glass</font>]]'''[[User talk:GlassCobra|<font color="002bb8">Cobra</font>]]''' 04:38, 9 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== RfA == |
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Apparantly I missed it, congrats for earning the bit. '''[[User:Grsz11|<font color="black">Grsz</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Grsz11|<b><font color="red">11</font></b>]]</sup>''' 22:38, 9 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Favreau == |
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No problem. I'm confused, though - for some reason when I read the article, it was still showing the vandalized version that you reverted more than an hour ago (hence my "reverting to last good version" edit). Anyway, I might do the GA review in the next few days if I get a chance and nobody beats me to it. Cheers, [[User:Sarcasticidealist|Sarcasticidealist]] ([[User talk:Sarcasticidealist|talk]]) 04:22, 11 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Favreau GA == |
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I might need a couple of days to finish it, so I'd say we're all good. [[User:Sarcasticidealist|Sarcasticidealist]] ([[User talk:Sarcasticidealist|talk]]) 01:13, 13 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== [[Silk Road]] == |
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Thanks for semi-protecing, or whatever you did with that article. I do not know what the deal is, but for some reason that article has been a target over time for vandals. I have had it on my watchlist for this reason for a year, at least. —[[User:Mattisse|<font color="navy">'''Mattisse'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Mattisse|Talk]]) 04:23, 13 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:You're welcome, I just dropped a semi-protection on it. If it picks up as badly again after 3 days, just drop it on [[WP:RFPP]] again, mention the history and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Silk_Road previous history of protections], and it can probably get a longer one if the volume keeps up like it has the past couple days. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 04:27, 13 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== GA Review of [[Jon Favreau (speechwriter)]] == |
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Hello - I have reviewed [[Jon Favreau (speechwriter)]], which you listed at the [[WP:GAN|Good Article nominees]] page. My review of the article can be found [[Talk:Jon Favreau (speechwriter)/GA1|here]]. As you can see, I've raised quite a few issues with the article. Before you panic/become depressed/burn me in effigy, though, here are some things to bear in mind: |
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* The points I raise are not necessarily all things that need to be addressed before I list it as a GA. Instead, they are things that I think could improve the article. In my view, the actual GA status is of secondary importance in the GA process; what's more important is improving the article, and I think that goal is best served by making as many suggestions as possible. |
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* In my experience, I'm among the most stringent GA reviewers out there, especially in the "well-written" category, where I tend to review GA and FA candidates in essentially the same way. Again, I do this because I think it's best for the article; however, if you think the points I've raised are too nit-picky or minor and you'd rather not address them, I may be willing to promote the article without them all being addressed. |
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* The opinions I express in my GA reviews are just that - my opinions (I also express some things, like grammatical rules or the requirements of [[WP:V]], that are not my opinions). If you disagree with any of my opinions, please say so; you don't need to convince me that you're right, just that your position is a reasonable one. |
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::Hey Root - it's been more than a week and I haven't seen any movement on this. Are you going to get around to it soon? [[User:Sarcasticidealist|Sarcasticidealist]] ([[User talk:Sarcasticidealist|talk]]) 01:03, 23 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Yep--sorry. Been distracted, and short on time except for the more mechanical stuff I can pop in and out for. I'm gonna work on it Tuesday and Wednesday. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 01:26, 23 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== [[User:Nainki]] == |
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I've seen you have blocked this user for being a sockpuppet confirmed by checkuser. Could you put checkuser templates on the user and user talk pages for this user? Thanks. [[User:Techman224|<font color="339933">'''Techman224'''</font>]][[User talk:Techman224|<font color="3300ff">'''<sup>Talk</sup>'''</font>]] 04:19, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== DYK update == |
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Hello. The DYKAdminBot doesn't seem to be updating again; it's late and an update needs to be pushed. Could you manually do the update? None of the DYK admins are around, and Victuallers is not responding. The update should be from [[Template:Did_you_know/Queue/5|queue 5]]. Instructions for the update are at [[Wikipedia:DYK#Process]]. Thank you! [[User:Shubinator|Shubinator]] ([[User talk:Shubinator|talk]]) 17:57, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:I'll take a look but I see you dropped it on AN too... I'd rather someone who's done it before do it in a pinch, since I never have yet. :( <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 18:25, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::None of the DYK admin regulars are around, so this'll be the first time for whoever does it. I can look over the update and try to catch errors. [[User:Shubinator|Shubinator]] ([[User talk:Shubinator|talk]]) 18:30, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Did I do it right? <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 18:34, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::::The clock needs to be purged. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know/Next_update/Time&action=edit] Otherwise it looks good...I'll check for stray errors. The main page hasn't been deleted :) Thank you! [[User:Shubinator|Shubinator]] ([[User talk:Shubinator|talk]]) 18:40, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::Timer purged. :) The first thing I saw when I read your post was, "YOU GO EDIT THE MAIN PAGE," and I was like, "shit!" :P <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 18:42, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::Haha, no pressure. Oh, one more thing...the [[:File:So-ya.jpg|picture]] needs to be protected. I think the DYK pics are copied to en from Commons while they're on the Main Page. [[User:Shubinator|Shubinator]] ([[User talk:Shubinator|talk]]) 18:47, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::::Got the page here local for 6 hours and Kanonakas did the Commons side already. :) <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 18:49, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::::Nice. One more thing: the bot's [[User:DYKadminBot/count|count]] should be updated to say 1. (I'm starting to sound like [[List_of_Jackie_Chan_Adventures_characters#Uncle_Chan|Uncle]] in [[Jackie_Chan_Adventures|Jackie Chan]]). [[User:Shubinator|Shubinator]] ([[User talk:Shubinator|talk]]) 18:54, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::::::Haha! OK, that one's done, but I'm going AFK a bit now. ;) <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 18:59, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::::::One more thing (last one I think): [[Template:Did_you_know/Queue/5|Queue 5]] needs to be cleared. It should look like [[T:DYK/Q4|Queue 4]]. No rush on this one...as long as it's within 24 hours. Thank you for all your help! [[User:Shubinator|Shubinator]] ([[User talk:Shubinator|talk]]) 19:04, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::One more thing (this one truly is the last): The [[:File:Sputnik_asm.jpg|previous image]] should be deleted from en...it's a copy from Commons, only on en for protection while on the main page. No rush on this either. Sorry for bugging you so much. [[User:Shubinator|Shubinator]] ([[User talk:Shubinator|talk]]) 19:15, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Could you explain on the rfc page more of what you mean by what you are asking? Do you mean that we should have the equivalent of the way stewards or whatever on meta have to be confirmed for another term after a year or something? If so I agree. [[User:Sticky Parkin|<b><font color="#FF8C00">Sticky</font></b>]] [[User talk:Sticky Parkin|<b><font color="#FF8C00">Parkin</font></b>]] 18:43, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:No, not that... lifetime or semi-lifetime appointments for some things, I'll concede make life easier all around... but it's just literally, "Why are we exempting the old CU/OS who aren't sitting Arbs from a public examination of their trust?" <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 18:45, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::Do you mean an informal one, like we did with the page about how much confidence we have in members of arbcom, rather than a vote? What makes you think this is needed? (not that I disagree necessarily that it might be beneficial)- email me with your reasons if you prefer. I don't know if it would lead to any different result than if it was not held, as the majority of people who are open on wiki about their opinion on the matter seem to be gushingly happy with the current CUs. Perhaps the ones that aren't just don't feel able to say so publicly (though many of them do privately.) [[User:Sticky Parkin|<b><font color="#FF8C00">Sticky</font></b>]] [[User talk:Sticky Parkin|<b><font color="#FF8C00">Parkin</font></b>]] 19:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::Here is fine. It well could be there is overwhelming support for the current CU/OS group--but I keep seeing and feeling all this innuendo and inference that stuff is not right, that some are overwhelmingly trusted but some are not at all even among the AC. If there's politics or personalities interfering with anything in the CU/OS work or oversight, that's just wildly inappropriatte. I think it's needed for A) either the AC to give a stamp of approval and endorsement of all the current OS/CU users, including ex-arbs, or B) for them to be counted in public as it should be if there is a conflict, since the CU/OS group is useless if we don't trust them. One bad apple can taint the perception of all the results, and we have to be able to trust anything CU/OS say about their decisions. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 19:06, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::::Some are beloved of the arbcom, and the personalities of some of those running WP is what it is:):):) Also, there is a lack of action (to the extent that I wonder what some employed by wikimedia think they're employed to do.) You know what I think, some people would actually be removed from most other sites, never mind from any position of power. But fans and those by whom they are beloved might not feel the same despite how the person acts. Some people haven't experienced it themselves anyway, so they probably won't see why it's a problem. [[User:Sticky Parkin|<b><font color="#FF8C00">Sticky</font></b>]] [[User talk:Sticky Parkin|<b><font color="#FF8C00">Parkin</font></b>]] 20:04, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Hi Rootology. Could you please make your first and most important question less ambiguous (i.e. support what/which same process?)? Is it possible that you reformulate it? I had to make a trip to this talk page and though I read your answers to Sticky Parkin I'd still like you give us more clarifications there. Thanks. -- [[User:FayssalF|<font size="2px" face="Verdana"><font color="DarkSlateBlue">FayssalF</font></font>]] - <small>[[User talk:FayssalF|<font style="background: gold"><sup>''Wiki me up''® </sup></font>]]</small> 20:45, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Hi FayssalF, sorry, my usual crap copyediting strikes again. Take a look now. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 20:53, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::Thanks. I am hungry and tired now and will get back answering your questions in a few hours. -- [[User:FayssalF|<font size="2px" face="Verdana"><font color="DarkSlateBlue">FayssalF</font></font>]] - <small>[[User talk:FayssalF|<font style="background: gold"><sup>''Wiki me up''® </sup></font>]]</small> 21:02, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:::You're welcome, and no rush. Given the questions, I honestly wasn't expecting anything for days, to be honest. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 21:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC) |
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I am requesting the support of other administrators. |
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Baroness Cox has not been involved with Christian Solidarity Worldwide since 2003. She successfully sued the Evening Standard for the false article that you now reference. It is a subjective statement to say the film was anti-Islamic. Check out www.worldcommittee on Disability, all of her disability work has been removed. This is libel!!! |
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:Did the Evening Standard issue a retraction? If so, you can put a link to it on the article talk page and say that it retracts the article that's currently referenced. <s>Then go change the article.</s> This should short-circuit any future attempt to rely on the retracted article. Absent a retraction, an online copy of the court order or settlement ''might'' be of use, but only if there was a finding of fact that the article was erroneous or an admission by the Standard that it was erroneous, and even then, only to the extent that the article was found to be in error. [[User:davidwr|davidwr]]/<small><small>([[User_talk:davidwr|talk]])/([[Special:Contributions/Davidwr|contribs]])/([[Special:Emailuser/davidwr|e-mail]])</small></small> 20:09, 18 February 2009 (UTC) Oops, I didn't notice the article was protected. The correct place to request changes to protected articles is the article talk page. [[User:davidwr|davidwr]]/<small><small>([[User_talk:davidwr|talk]])/([[Special:Contributions/Davidwr|contribs]])/([[Special:Emailuser/davidwr|e-mail]])</small></small> 20:14, 18 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:I watch this page so I saw your comment. There was a discussion at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MogileFS]] where the Wikipedia community discussed the [[MogileFS]]. People found that the article lacked coverage in [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. Articles on Wikipedia need to have coverage in reliable sources in order to be [[WP:V|verifiable]] and [[WP:N|notable]]. If you want to ask the people who commented at the AFD discussion or seek help from a Wikiproject like [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computing]], they may be able to give you more details. '''[[User:MBisanz|<span style='color: #FFFF00;background-color: #0000FF;'>MBisanz</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:MBisanz|<span style='color: #FFA500;'>talk</span>]]</sup> 01:22, 24 February 2009 (UTC) |
:I watch this page so I saw your comment. There was a discussion at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MogileFS]] where the Wikipedia community discussed the [[MogileFS]]. People found that the article lacked coverage in [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. Articles on Wikipedia need to have coverage in reliable sources in order to be [[WP:V|verifiable]] and [[WP:N|notable]]. If you want to ask the people who commented at the AFD discussion or seek help from a Wikiproject like [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computing]], they may be able to give you more details. '''[[User:MBisanz|<span style='color: #FFFF00;background-color: #0000FF;'>MBisanz</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:MBisanz|<span style='color: #FFA500;'>talk</span>]]</sup> 01:22, 24 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::unfortunately, i need to cover three separate topics in this post. i hope that's not too confusing. |
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::1) from what i found on the Wikipedia policy pages, it seems like being a registered user for 4 days (approximately) should be sufficient to allow me to edit semi-protected pages. i'm surprised to learn that there's also a "number of edits" threshold. perhaps the help page on the subject of semi-protected pages, [[Wikipedia:Protection_policy#Semi-protection]] should be updated. i'm not sure where i got the "4 days" from (that page says "newly registered users"), but i believe i read that on a help page that i got to from the "semi-protected" [[User_talk:MBisanz]] page. |
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::2) i looked through the page history for [[User_talk:MBisanz]] and saw the history of vandalism, so i understand why it was protected. but from my reading of the [[Wikipedia:Deletion_review]] page, it is courteous to start a discussion of incorrectly deleted articles with the editor that deleted it. since i'm unable to write to [[User:Mbisanz]]'s talk page, that means i'm unable to comment on the deletion of the [[MogileFS]] article in the approved fashion, which is a problem (at least for me). this talk page isn't really the right place for such a discussion, but it seems to be my only option, other than initiating the more formal [[Wikipedia:Deletion_review]] process. |
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::3) getting back to the original subject of the [[MogileFS]] article that was deleted ... i think there were a couple of errors made here. the first is the decision that MogileFS is not notable or verifiable enough to deserve a Wikipedia entry, and the second was in the way the article was deleted. other than the aforementioned [[Wikipedia:Deletion_review]] process, i don't see a mechanism to initiate a discussion with "the people who commented at the AFD discussion". |
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::i should mention that i have no personal or commercial interest in MogileFS. i've found Wikipedia to be very useful to me, and i just want to see Wikipedia be as useful as possible to others. also, for what it's worth, i'm a file system developer on UNIX and Linux with 20 years experience, and one of the original developers of [[VxFS]] so i have some knowledge of file systems (though not of cloud storage). |
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== I'm looking for somoene neutral to review a BLP and don't know where to start == |
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::3a) first of all, i think MogileFS is sufficiently notable to deserve a Wikipedia entry (though i don't know what that threshold actually is). i ran across MogileFS in the course of my work at Symantec researching Cloud Storage solutions (it *may* have come from an IDC report). i looked up MogileFS on Google, which showed me a Wikipedia entry, among other references. unfortunately, when i followed the Google link it was effectively broken since it took me to a page on [[Danga_Interactive]] that contained no useful information on MogileFS. so i went back to Google, looked at the cached version of the Wikipedia MogileFS page, and got information that was useful for my purposes. |
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There is an artice for a BLP that I would like someone with a fresh set of eyes to review. While the person is notable for one thing, the rest of the article contains IMHO a bunch of fluff and should be removed. However I don't want anyone to predjudge the article first, so I wanted to see if there is a place where I can make such a request? I saw you made some comments to the BLP page, so I figured I'd ask here first. If you could post a new section to my talk page that would be great too. Thanks[[User:Fasttimes68|Fasttimes68]] ([[User talk:Fasttimes68|talk]]) 22:05, 24 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::in this same week, i ran across another reference to MogileFS in a [[SNIA]] presentation. that can be found at [https://www.snia.org/apps/org/workgroup/trackfilemgmt/download.php/36368/Nicolas-Massively_Scalable_File_Storage.pdf]. unfortunately, the content is copyrighted and password protected. only one slide of the presentation talks about MogileFS; i'll try to post it somewhere on Wikipedia and then reference it. |
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: Take a look and let me know what you think. Thanks [[Stephanie_Adams]][[User:Fasttimes68|Fasttimes68]] ([[User talk:Fasttimes68|talk]]) 06:19, 25 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::If I have time I'll take a look, but if it's an urgent BLP issue please bring it to [[WP:ANI]]. I'm short on time currently. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 02:07, 26 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::anyway, my argument for "sufficiently notable" consists of the fact that i ran across two different references to MogileFS in the course of my work, and therefore wanted more information about it. |
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::3b) although the contents of the article were sparse, they were not free of content. in fact, i found the content of the article sufficient to my need to learn something about about MogileFS. i assume that there are other readers in the same position. |
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I cut and pasted it here: [[User_talk:A_Man_In_Black#RfC]]. Looks like there will be another [[WP:Battle|war]], initated by the same group of editors, who will ironically argue that I am making wikipedia a [[WP:Battle|Battleground]] These editors are trying to make this whole issue about user conduct, never mind the radically different ideology. [[User:Ikip|Ikip]] ([[User talk:Ikip|talk]]) 12:44, 25 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:Nevermind, it seemed to have all blown over. [[User:Ikip|Ikip]] ([[User talk:Ikip|talk]]) 12:57, 25 February 2009 (UTC) |
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::3c) i'm a bit confused about the [[WP:V|verifiable]] requirement. although the article appears to summarize information from the [http://danga.com/mogilefs/ Danja Interactive Mogile FS page], that information is verifiable, as is all open source software. simply [http://search.cpan.org/~bradfitz/mogilefs-server/|download the source] and examine it. |
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::3c) my third point is that the article was deleted incorrectly. i'm a naive Wikipedia user, but as far as i can tell there were three "votes" in favor of deleting the page, and none in favor of keeping it (see [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/MogileFS]]). however, two of the three "votes" suggested that the content of the page be moved to the [[Danga_Interactive]] page, which was not done, so the useful information on the [[MogileFS]] page was lost. i think that if you're going to take the responsibility to delete the article, then you're also responsible for propagating the useful information that two out of three members of the Wikipedia community thought should be preserved. it seems to me that the first rule of editing should be "First, do no harm". |
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I can't remember if I voted in your RfA or not, but I am glad to see the trust I have in you reciprocated. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 22:00, 25 February 2009 (UTC) |
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:You're very welcome, and it's true (regardless of RFA or anything else). <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 02:08, 26 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Request unprotection of User talk:MBisanz
this is probably more of a technical bug than anything else, but i thought i'd start here (with you).
i want to post a comment about a deleted article, MogileFS, to MBsanz's talk page, but i cannot, apparently because it is semi-protected. i have been a registered user since sept. 2008 and looking through my preferences it appears that I have available all the options of a registered user (like skins), but no edit buttons appear when examining the talk page.
so, the most direct route to posting a comment on the page appears to be to get it changed back to unprotected.
comments? suggestions? (note that this is not a problem with cookies in my browser, or at least not so far as i can tell.)
Craigster0 (talk) 00:40, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, there are sound reasons that MBisanz' talkpage should not be unprotected at this time. Although your account has been around for awhile, you do not yet have enough edits to meet the threshold for editing a semiprotected page. Perhaps if you place your message here or on my talkpage, someone could transcribe it over there. Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:48, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- I watch this page so I saw your comment. There was a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MogileFS where the Wikipedia community discussed the MogileFS. People found that the article lacked coverage in reliable sources. Articles on Wikipedia need to have coverage in reliable sources in order to be verifiable and notable. If you want to ask the people who commented at the AFD discussion or seek help from a Wikiproject like Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computing, they may be able to give you more details. MBisanz talk 01:22, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
- unfortunately, i need to cover three separate topics in this post. i hope that's not too confusing.
- 1) from what i found on the Wikipedia policy pages, it seems like being a registered user for 4 days (approximately) should be sufficient to allow me to edit semi-protected pages. i'm surprised to learn that there's also a "number of edits" threshold. perhaps the help page on the subject of semi-protected pages, Wikipedia:Protection_policy#Semi-protection should be updated. i'm not sure where i got the "4 days" from (that page says "newly registered users"), but i believe i read that on a help page that i got to from the "semi-protected" User_talk:MBisanz page.
- 2) i looked through the page history for User_talk:MBisanz and saw the history of vandalism, so i understand why it was protected. but from my reading of the Wikipedia:Deletion_review page, it is courteous to start a discussion of incorrectly deleted articles with the editor that deleted it. since i'm unable to write to User:Mbisanz's talk page, that means i'm unable to comment on the deletion of the MogileFS article in the approved fashion, which is a problem (at least for me). this talk page isn't really the right place for such a discussion, but it seems to be my only option, other than initiating the more formal Wikipedia:Deletion_review process.
- 3) getting back to the original subject of the MogileFS article that was deleted ... i think there were a couple of errors made here. the first is the decision that MogileFS is not notable or verifiable enough to deserve a Wikipedia entry, and the second was in the way the article was deleted. other than the aforementioned Wikipedia:Deletion_review process, i don't see a mechanism to initiate a discussion with "the people who commented at the AFD discussion".
- i should mention that i have no personal or commercial interest in MogileFS. i've found Wikipedia to be very useful to me, and i just want to see Wikipedia be as useful as possible to others. also, for what it's worth, i'm a file system developer on UNIX and Linux with 20 years experience, and one of the original developers of VxFS so i have some knowledge of file systems (though not of cloud storage).
- 3a) first of all, i think MogileFS is sufficiently notable to deserve a Wikipedia entry (though i don't know what that threshold actually is). i ran across MogileFS in the course of my work at Symantec researching Cloud Storage solutions (it *may* have come from an IDC report). i looked up MogileFS on Google, which showed me a Wikipedia entry, among other references. unfortunately, when i followed the Google link it was effectively broken since it took me to a page on Danga_Interactive that contained no useful information on MogileFS. so i went back to Google, looked at the cached version of the Wikipedia MogileFS page, and got information that was useful for my purposes.
- in this same week, i ran across another reference to MogileFS in a SNIA presentation. that can be found at [1]. unfortunately, the content is copyrighted and password protected. only one slide of the presentation talks about MogileFS; i'll try to post it somewhere on Wikipedia and then reference it.
- anyway, my argument for "sufficiently notable" consists of the fact that i ran across two different references to MogileFS in the course of my work, and therefore wanted more information about it.
- 3b) although the contents of the article were sparse, they were not free of content. in fact, i found the content of the article sufficient to my need to learn something about about MogileFS. i assume that there are other readers in the same position.
- 3c) i'm a bit confused about the verifiable requirement. although the article appears to summarize information from the Danja Interactive Mogile FS page, that information is verifiable, as is all open source software. simply the source and examine it.
- 3c) my third point is that the article was deleted incorrectly. i'm a naive Wikipedia user, but as far as i can tell there were three "votes" in favor of deleting the page, and none in favor of keeping it (see Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/MogileFS). however, two of the three "votes" suggested that the content of the page be moved to the Danga_Interactive page, which was not done, so the useful information on the MogileFS page was lost. i think that if you're going to take the responsibility to delete the article, then you're also responsible for propagating the useful information that two out of three members of the Wikipedia community thought should be preserved. it seems to me that the first rule of editing should be "First, do no harm".