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****Added and also to ref 59. Hope those were all. [[User:Bamse|bamse]] ([[User talk:Bamse|talk]]) 21:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC) |
****Added and also to ref 59. Hope those were all. [[User:Bamse|bamse]] ([[User talk:Bamse|talk]]) 21:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC) |
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*****'''Support''' - I see no problem with the list. <font color="FF1493">[[User:Afkatk|Afro]]</font> ([[User talk:Afkatk|<font color="6082B6">'''''Talk'''''</font>]]) 05:31, 20 October 2010 (UTC) |
*****'''Support''' - I see no problem with the list. <font color="FF1493">[[User:Afkatk|Afro]]</font> ([[User talk:Afkatk|<font color="6082B6">'''''Talk'''''</font>]]) 05:31, 20 October 2010 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment''' This list is quite well done. I only have quibbles of sorts: |
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** I presume that the categorization of treasures is somehow officially determined, but this is not stated here. A sentence after the opening one saying something like "Ancient documents are one of <n> cagetories of treasures recognized by <agency>" would clarify this. |
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**[[National Treasures of Japan]] says there are 59 items on this list; what is the reason for the discrepancy? |
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**This is just a suggestion: that the maps vary by size the dots based on the number of items held somewhere. (I'd suggest color variation, but that probably violates [[WP:ACCESS]].) |
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- Nominator(s): bamse (talk) 09:17, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
This is a list in the series of National Treasures of Japan lists. It has been modelled after other featured Lists of National Treasures of Japan. I tried to incorporate comments from previous featured list candidacies. bamse (talk) 09:17, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
- Comment—no dab links, but the external link to http://www.narahaku.go.jp/exhibition/2009toku/ningbo/ningbo_index.html is dead. Ucucha 23:12, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- I am aware of the broken link. Unfortunately the page has disappeared and is not present at the internet archive or WebCite either. As far as I understand WP:ROT (quote: "Do not delete factual information solely because the URL to the source does not work any longer. WP:Verifiability does not require that all information be supported by a working link, nor does it require the source to be published on-line." and "...do not delete a URL solely because the URL does not work any longer"), the url should stay in the article, right? bamse (talk) 23:37, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Well, all information on Wikipedia should be verifiable, and no one can verify something that is referenced to a broken link. Can you reference this information to a different source? Ucucha 00:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- I thought so too, but it seems to contradict wikipedia's policy which I quoted above (from WP:ROT): "WP:Verifiability does not require that all information be supported by a working link". bamse (talk) 16:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- But surely it is better to have a source that can actually be accessed! Ucucha 19:41, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- I removed the reference. The information is already present in (general) reference 4. bamse (talk) 22:10, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- But surely it is better to have a source that can actually be accessed! Ucucha 19:41, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- I thought so too, but it seems to contradict wikipedia's policy which I quoted above (from WP:ROT): "WP:Verifiability does not require that all information be supported by a working link". bamse (talk) 16:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- Well, all information on Wikipedia should be verifiable, and no one can verify something that is referenced to a broken link. Can you reference this information to a different source? Ucucha 00:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- I am aware of the broken link. Unfortunately the page has disappeared and is not present at the internet archive or WebCite either. As far as I understand WP:ROT (quote: "Do not delete factual information solely because the URL to the source does not work any longer. WP:Verifiability does not require that all information be supported by a working link, nor does it require the source to be published on-line." and "...do not delete a URL solely because the URL does not work any longer"), the url should stay in the article, right? bamse (talk) 23:37, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Well referenced and well sourced list. Ruslik_Zero 16:11, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- Comments - Ref 23, 25, 41, 54, 68, 75 language needs stating. Ref 43 returns the Portugese Google Frontpage. Afro (Say Something Funny) - Afkatk 11:05, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- Fixed all. 25 already had the language stated. Removed ref 54 as it might not be WP:RS. PS: In fact it was the Polish google books frontpage... bamse (talk) 21:13, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- Either way I'm glad that the ref doesn't return the frontpage anymore. Ref 43 needs a language parameter. Afro (Talk) 07:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
- Added and also to ref 59. Hope those were all. bamse (talk) 21:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support - I see no problem with the list. Afro (Talk) 05:31, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Added and also to ref 59. Hope those were all. bamse (talk) 21:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
- Either way I'm glad that the ref doesn't return the frontpage anymore. Ref 43 needs a language parameter. Afro (Talk) 07:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
- Fixed all. 25 already had the language stated. Removed ref 54 as it might not be WP:RS. PS: In fact it was the Polish google books frontpage... bamse (talk) 21:13, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- Comment This list is quite well done. I only have quibbles of sorts:
- I presume that the categorization of treasures is somehow officially determined, but this is not stated here. A sentence after the opening one saying something like "Ancient documents are one of <n> cagetories of treasures recognized by <agency>" would clarify this.
- National Treasures of Japan says there are 59 items on this list; what is the reason for the discrepancy?
- This is just a suggestion: that the maps vary by size the dots based on the number of items held somewhere. (I'd suggest color variation, but that probably violates WP:ACCESS.)