Wikipedia:Featured list candidates
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Welcome to featured list candidates! Here, we determine which lists are of a good enough quality to be featured lists (FLs). Featured lists exemplify Wikipedia's very best work and satisfy the FL criteria. Before nominating a list, nominators may wish to receive feedback by listing it at Peer review. This process is not a substitute for peer review. Nominators must be sufficiently familiar with the subject matter and sources to deal with objections during the FLC process. Ones who are not significant contributors to the list should consult regular editors of the list before nomination. Nominators are expected to respond positively to constructive criticism and to make an effort to address objections promptly. A list should not be listed at featured list candidates and peer review at the same time. Users should not add a second featured list nomination until the first has gained substantial support and reviewers' concerns have been substantially addressed. Please do not split featured list candidate pages into subsections using header code (if necessary, use bolded headings). The featured list director, Giants2008, or his delegates—Crisco 1492, SchroCat, and PresN—determine the timing of the process for each nomination; each nomination will last at least days (though most last at least a week longer)—longer where changes are ongoing and it seems useful to continue the process. For a nomination to be promoted to FL status, consensus must be reached that it meets the criteria. Consensus is built among reviewers and nominators; the directors determine whether there is consensus. A nomination will be removed from the list and archived if, in the judgment of the director who considers a nomination and its reviews:
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Contents
- 1 Nominations
- 1.1 List of Leicestershire County Cricket Club grounds
- 1.2 List of international goals scored by David Healy
- 1.3 List of video games in the Museum of Modern Art
- 1.4 England cricket team Test results (1920–39)
- 1.5 List of awards and nominations received by Wolfmother
- 1.6 List of works by W. E. Johns
- 1.7 65th Academy Awards
- 1.8 Alexandra Stan discography
- 1.9 List of accolades received by Lagaan
- 1.10 Rudolph Valentino filmography
- 1.11 The class the stars fell on
- 1.12 List of songs recorded by Lady Gaga
- 1.13 List of Arsenal F.C. records and statistics
- 1.14 List of teams and cyclists in the 2015 Vuelta a España
- 2 Older nominations
- 2.1 Raveena Tandon filmography
- 2.2 Kerala State Film Award for Best Actress
- 2.3 List of Padma Bhushan award recipients (1954–1959)
- 2.4 List of accolades received by Blue Is the Warmest Colour
- 2.5 List of teams and cyclists in the 2012 Tour de France
- 2.6 Timeline of drafting and ratification of the United States Constitution
- 2.7 Central Committee elected by the 17th Congress of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks)
- 2.8 List of reptiles of Bulgaria
- 2.9 List of Connecticut Huskies in the NFL Draft
- 2.10 List of World Heritage Sites in Slovenia
- 2.11 England cricket team Test results (1877–1914)
- 2.12 List of Alamo defenders
- 2.13 List of British Columbia general elections
- 2.14 FIFA World Cup top goalscorers
- 2.15 AAA Mega Championship
- 2.16 List of Governors of Arkansas
- 2.17 List of local nature reserves in Somerset
- 2.18 List of UK Album Downloads Chart number ones of the 2000s
- 2.19 List of ant subfamilies
- 2.20 List of international goals scored by Thierry Henry
- 2.21 List of international goals scored by Miroslav Klose
- 2.22 List of Washington Metro stations
- 2.23 List of Gloucestershire County Cricket Club grounds
- 2.24 NWA World Welterweight Championship
- 2.25 List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at M. A. Chidambaram Stadium
- 2.26 List of international cricket centuries by Ian Bell
- 3 Nominations for removal
Nominations[edit]
List of Leicestershire County Cricket Club grounds[edit]
- Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:54, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
AssociateAffiliate started this article and created the table, I have added an extensive lead and generally tweaked it a bit, and now feel it meets the FL requirements. It follows the same format as three similar lists which have been recently promoted to FL and one which currently has three supports, and all feedback from those FLCs has been incorporated into this article too..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:55, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
List of international goals scored by David Healy[edit]
- Nominator(s): The Rambling Man (talk) 08:10, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Another country's top scorer, this time Northern Ireland's. A significant name on the international football scene, if only for the record number of goals he scored for NI duing European qualification. As always, thanks for time and energy expended on commenting. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:10, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
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I haven't looked at this in much detail, but it looks pretty good. One issue that I did spot: the lead doesn't actually mention how many international goals he has scored. Harrias talk 09:07, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Added. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:09, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- "..the only Northern Ireland player ever to have done so." The word "ever" seems redundant to me, he's either the only NI player to have done so, or he isn't, ever doesn't come into it.
- The 24 March 2007 Liechtenstein match has two of the results the wrong way around (4–1 rather than 1–4). None of the other scores look obviously wrong, but I haven't checked in depth.
- References all look sound, the image looks awful, but is appropriately licensed and captioned, which is the main thing! Harrias talk 15:34, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Sorted, thanks! The Rambling Man (talk) 06:22, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
List of video games in the Museum of Modern Art[edit]
I am nominating this for featured list as I have put a lot of work into it and believe it now meets FL criteria. A peer review has been carried out about a month ago and all issues raised in that discussion have been resolved. This is my first Featured content nomination, so I hope it will go well ^_^ ~Mable (chat) 10:05, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Comments from User:Tintor2 Article looks pretty solid to me but there are two things that bother me: *The intro "this is a list of video games...." seems unnecessary. I would change it to "There are video games that have been selected by the Museum of Modern Art"
Also, the lead has some references which seems to contradict WP:Lead.
Other than that I think this list could quickly become FL so more opinions are needed.
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- It looks pretty good so I would Support it.
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- Thank you for the comment. Firstly, per WP:LEAD, "there is not, however, an exception to citation requirements specific to leads," though I've moved three of the sources down to the table to counter clutter. "This is a list of..." versus "There are..." has always been an odd thing to me - I'm going to check on previous Featured Lists to see what the common solution is to this, but I seem to remember "This is a list..." being preferred. ~Mable (chat) 07:23, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Lists starting with "this is a list" haven't really been the preferred format, or deemed acceptable at FLC, for quite a few years now. I would start the lead with something like "A number of video games have been selected by the Museum of Modern Art...." -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:49, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- I really like that wording. Fixed! ~Mable (chat) 10:53, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- It should be "A number of video games have been" not "A number of video games that have been"....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:09, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- I really like that wording. Fixed! ~Mable (chat) 10:53, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
England cricket team Test results (1920–39)[edit]
Following on from England cricket team Test results (1877–1914), here is the next in the series. This list follows the same format as that one. Although that nomination is still open, it has significant support and no outstanding concerns. As always, all comments, criticisms and nattering welcome! Harrias talk 09:07, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
List of awards and nominations received by Wolfmother[edit]
- Nominator(s): Shaidar cuebiyar & Dan arndt (talk) 05:27, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
We are nominating this for featured list because it was originally included as a Featured List in September 2008, however it was delisted in June 2009 - primarily on the basis that there were only 20 items on the list and that it could be merged into the main article. At the time I was of the view that criterion 3b did not specify a minimum number of items within a list. In the last few months Shaidar cuebiyar and I have reviewed the article and updated it - it now contains 40 items, which is sufficient for a stand alone list. We have also undertaken significant copy edits to bring it to what we believe is a FL standard. The article has recently been reviewed by the GOCE, who have made further improvements. Dan arndt (talk) 05:27, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
List of works by W. E. Johns[edit]
W.E. Johns was a prolific English writer. He wrote over 150 books and was one of the most popular children's writer of his time. Most of Johns's work—102 books—consists of the stories of Biggles, a First World War pilot and, later, adventurer, detective and Second World War squadron leader. He also wrote science fiction stories, and two further series of war stories, featuring the characters Worrals of the Women's Auxiliary Air Force (WAAF) and Gimlet, a British Commando. This is a new list as we did not have a complete picture of Johns' works before this page. Any and all comments are welcome. – SchroCat (talk) 21:41, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
65th Academy Awards[edit]
- Nominator(s): Birdienest81 (talk) 07:06, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
I am nominating the 1993 Oscars for featured list because I believe it has great potential to become a Featured List. I also followed how the 1929, 1987, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015 were written. Please note that the winners are both indicated with boldface text AND double daggers. This was agreed upon based on a resolution regarding accessbility taken up at the FL nomination for the 2015 Oscars. Birdienest81 (talk) 07:06, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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* The last line of the intro: "The telecast garnered almost 46 million viewers in the United States." Is there a citation for this? Jimknut (talk) 17:20, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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Support – Looks good. Jimknut (talk) 21:00, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Support – I am not sure when was the last time I supported a nomination without comments. Top work; engaging prose, brilliant references and plenty of content. However, I do have a minor comment: can you rephrase the first sentence of the ceremony information section as it reads a bit odd, especially "riding on the success". Also, it would be pretty good if you change "last year's ceremony" to something like "preceding ceremony" or previous. -- Frankie talk 12:32, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Alexandra Stan discography[edit]
- Nominator(s): Cartoon network freak (talk) 17:12, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because I believe the article is well-referenced and well-written. Nearly all the pages that link here are archived, so that the needed information can be also seen if the citation is "dead". I tried to do my best for adjusting the article's lead and citation style. Thanks in advance!
List of accolades received by Lagaan[edit]
- Nominator(s): Yashthepunisher (talk) 15:10, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Lagaan is one of the most influential film ever produced by Indian cinema. It won several awards and nomination. I am nominating this for featured list because I feel the list meets the criteria and provides a sourced and well-written listing of it's award list. All kind of comments are welcomed. Yashthepunisher (talk) 15:10, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
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Support. Nice job. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 13:13, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
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| Comments from Relentlessly
Looks like a decent list, but there are significant problems with prose.
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- Relentlessly, I think all of your comments has been resolved. Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:54, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
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- I agree. Support. Relentlessly (talk) 13:02, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
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Rudolph Valentino filmography[edit]
Rudolph Valentino was one of the huge stars of the era of silent films, and still a iconic figure a hundred years later. Hisreputation rests on his roles in fourteen films, including The Sheik (1921), The Young Rajah (1922), The Eagle (1925), The Son of the Sheik (1926). This list has been split off from the main Valentino article, overhauled, re-written and is now in line with MoS strictures. Any and all comments are welcome. – SchroCat (talk) 18:13, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Images
- Need alt text on all of them. They are otherwise appropriately licensed on Commons and of good, clear quality. — Maile (talk) 22:09, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- I'll add alt text, but it doesn't need to be added, although it is good practice. - SchroCat (talk) 10:04, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Support – Looks good. Jimknut (talk) 22:37, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Support: I think the list is perfect. Great job.
- --Birdienest81 (talk) 19:27, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
The class the stars fell on[edit]
I am nominating this for featured list now that all issues have been resolved from the previous review. Hawkeye7 (talk) 23:04, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
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Review from Maile
Otherwise, nice work. — Maile (talk) 19:14, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
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Support - — Maile (talk) 17:10, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
List of songs recorded by Lady Gaga[edit]
We've been working on the list for a while. However, we never came up with the conclusion as to who should be the one to nominate it. Anyway, the list is pretty comprehensive, listing down all of her notable songs. Constructive criticism, in any form and from anyone, will be appreciated. Hoping for the best. -- Frankie talk 20:00, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Support: I have no more reservations preventing me from supporting this list. Well done.
- --Birdienest81 (talk) 18:39, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Birdienest81: thank you so much for your support! GagaNutellatalk 18:45, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Comment: I think the list looks great and the prose is very well-written. The only issue that I have is one dead url. Erick (talk) 02:55, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Hi Magiciandude. Turns out it is a working link and that there was a typo at the end of the URL. Fixed now. Snuggums (talk / edits) 03:08, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- Comments from WikiRedactor
My editing has been very limited this year, please forgive my critique for being sub-par!
- Is there anything we can do about the one green weblink?
- Maybe you could mention a song a bit more famous than "Speechless" to represent The Fame Monster in the introduction, either replacing it altogether or adding a second song to that sentence.
- Same thing with Born This Way; I like the mention of the Spanish and German lyrics so I would leave that bit as-is, but maybe mention the title track or "Judas" so the unfamiliar have a better frame of reference.
- I would personally find it interesting if you mentioned the couple soundtracks that Gaga appears in in a paragraph in the introduction, just to break it up a little bit from talking mostly about her actual albums. Who knows, it might be a fun fact worth mentioning that Heidi Montag recorded a version of "Fashion" before/after Gaga (not sure which came first!) and that she and Tony Bennett collaborated way before Cheek to Cheek became a thing.
- Maybe it's just me being picky, but could we maybe change the color keys in the tables? I'm a fan of "#BFFFC0" for the singles, maybe a more pastel yellow for the promotional singles, and maybe use the purple for songs that are written by Gaga alone? I'm just not a huge fan of the current color choices, but that could just be being nitpick.
- Albums titles should only be linked once in the tables, keep the first mention of each release wikilinked and remove the rest.
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- I linked again per WP:OLINK, since this is a sortable table. GagaNutellatalk 19:25, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Your review was most definitely not sub-par, WikiRedactor! All addressed. Snuggums (talk / edits) 03:24, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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*Comment: Quite high quality, very well done, thank you very much to all who worked on this quality improvement project. One recommendation: please add in-line citations to back up the unsourced factual assertions in the Notes sect. After that, should be all set. Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 05:48, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Support. Thanks very much for GagaNutella for being so polite and responsive to my comments, above. — Cirt (talk) 04:18, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Thank YOU Cirt for your support. It means a lot to all of us. I'm very grateful. Bye. GagaNutellatalk 04:22, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
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- You're most welcome, GagaNutella, thank you for your Quality improvement efforts to Wikipedia, and doing so while comporting yourself so politely. You're a rare find. :) — Cirt (talk) 04:25, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Comments from Azealia911[edit]
- I disagree with WikiRedactor, per WP:OLINK, tables are an exception when it comes to things being linked more than once. Depending on how you organize the table, you get a different occurrence of an album name first, EG: Sorting the tables by song means the first occurrence of Artpop is "Applause", however if we sort the table by other performer(s), "Do What U Want" occurs first, and is unlinked.
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- Done. I agree with you, and we've already talked about it in this FLC. GagaNutellatalk 19:19, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- I'm really confused as to why there are notes that describe what language Gaga recorded parts of songs in, what is the significance? It's not as if the article is titled "List of songs recorded in English by Lady Gaga"
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- I really have nothing against it. Actually, I think it gives the reader a full perspective of the song. So for now, I'm gonna pass and see what the other contributors have to say. In my opinion we should keep it. GagaNutellatalk 23:58, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
{{Abbr|Ref.|Reference}} → {{Abbr|Ref(s).|Reference(s)}}
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- Done GagaNutellatalk 19:00, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- What is the album for "World Family Tree" meant to mean? It currently is presented as "' (bonus CD audio book)"
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- Done GagaNutellatalk 19:00, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- The reference for "Chillin'" states it was published in 2013, yet the song and the album it originates from both dropped in 2009.
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- Done GagaNutellatalk 19:47, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- All iTunes links are unreliable for "List of songs" articles, they don't tell us who wrote the songs, so that means references for "Big Girl Now", "Fashion", "Winter Wonderland" need changing.
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- Done. All sources replaced. GagaNutellatalk 23:58, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- "Video Phone" rolls three references into one, whereas "Hello, Hello" marks out three single references, present both the same.
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- Done GagaNutellatalk 19:00, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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<br>in between the two refs for "3-Way (The Golden Rule)".
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- Done GagaNutellatalk 19:00, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- All I spotted so far. Azealia911 talk 09:27, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Azealia911: Thank you for your review. I think it's all done now. GagaNutellatalk 23:58, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
List of Arsenal F.C. records and statistics[edit]
- Nominator(s): Lemonade51 (talk) 12:59, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
A comprehensive list of Arsenal records and notable statistics, modelled on other football lists which already been promoted. All feedback is welcome, thanks. Lemonade51 (talk) 12:59, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
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Comments from Mattythewhite
Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 18:25, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Support Good work. Hopefully we will one day see an Arsenal F.C. featured topic! Mattythewhite (talk) 18:07, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Comments from Parutakupiu
- "The club was renamed a third time..." — Shouldn't it be 'second time', since it was the second time the name was changed?
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- Whoops, good spot.
- Typo: "friendles".
- "The club have won..." — Can we use the plural for "club" in the same way as for "team"?
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- I've replaced it with 'Arsenal', the shortened form of the club's full name should refer to the team, or team(s) of the day. Hope that's clear.
- "... something once achieved before, by Preston North End..." — Drop the comma.
- Arsenal never won the UEFA Cup, so the competition name should not be alongside 'Inter-Cities Fairs Cup' in the Honours section.
- In the Player records\Appearances\International section, there's no need to repeat "while an Arsenal player" in the 3rd and 4th items, after stating that restriction right before the list.
- Only the first image has alt text.
- Ref #69 is dead since 5 October 2015.
— Parutakupiu (talk) 02:25, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, believe all your comments have been addressed and I've responded to certain points. Lemonade51 (talk) 10:51, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- Support as my comments have been addressed. Parutakupiu (talk) 15:48, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
List of teams and cyclists in the 2015 Vuelta a España[edit]
- Nominator(s): Relentlessly (talk) 00:02, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
The 2015 Vuelta a España was the third of the three-week cycling Grand Tours in 2015 and was a fantastic race, decided in the final kilometres of the final climb. This list is closely modelled after List of teams and cyclists in the 2015 Tour de France, which was recently promoted to featured list status, and I think this is very close too. Relentlessly (talk) 00:02, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
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- Support on style and structure. Lemonade51 (talk) 20:43, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Comments
- "The race was won by Fabio Aru (Astana). Aru first took..." would change the second use of Aru to he, to avoid repeating his name in close proximity.
- "One prominent team to miss out on an entry was UnitedHealthcare." -> One prominent team not invited was United Healthcare.
- In the lead it says 32 different countries were represented, yet in the by country table it says 37...which one is it?
- This is more personal preference, but there isn't much use to including qoutes in the references.
NapHit (talk) 09:53, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comments, NapHit. The first three are done. I haven't removed the quotes from the citations. I agree they aren't necessary; in many cases, however, the page only slightly mentions the withdrawal, so it's useful to highlight it, in my view. Relentlessly (talk) 10:32, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Older nominations[edit]
Raveena Tandon filmography[edit]
I am nominating this for featured list because the list meets the criteria and provides a sourced and well-written listing of her films. Raveena Tandon is one of Bollywood's most popular actresses. She has received critical acclaim for portraying strong women in several films and has also won the National Film Award for Best Actress. Looking forward to lots of constructive comments.Krish | Talk 19:44, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: Seems odd to have some fields filled in, but others empty. Like "Director" field for some, but not all. Either way, should try to have increased standardization for maximum uniformity, throughout the page. Good luck, — Cirt (talk) 03:45, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Cirt: I have filled the table. Thanks for noting it, don't know how it slipped out of my mind. I was very busy so couldn't do it then.Krish | Talk 05:49, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Oppose
- Too many missing entries in the table re: directors, roles. Referencing needs a lot more work as they don't act as source for all the info in the table. Leads needs more work on its prose.
- "This was followed by a series of poorly received films which continued with her 1993 releases" Needs to be rephrased.I think you mean that the 1992 film was the start of her string of films that performed poorly at the box office. Unclear what poorly received means. By critics or commercial or both?
- "In 1994, she appeared in eight Hindi films, most of them were commercial successes. Among these were two of the box-office hits — the action thriller Mohra and the romantic musical drama Dilwale". According to table she was in nine Hindi films in 1994. BOI source goes to 1991 not 1994. What's the source for most of them being commercial successes? The first sentence says most of them were commercial successes but the next one says only two were box office hits.
- "Her other notable film was" Can't state that the film was notable, have to provide evidence why. Should avoid words such as as hit or flop.
- "The later year, she appeared in " What does this mean?
- In regards to BOI, we can't use their phrasing of what a hit is.
- Source needed for her taking a break from her films because of marriage
- Confusing to discuss a TV show she appeared in before marriage, right after a sentence saying she appeared on occassion on television after marriage.
- For the cameo in Bombay Velvet, you need a source that summarises multiple critics not just two as it's POV.
- Shab needs a source that proves it's filming.
Cowlibob (talk) 14:01, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Cowlibob: Done. Sorry for the delay, but I was very busy with my University exams. Coming to your points, her ninth film of 1994 was a cameo appearance, mentioned in Notes. And, rest tweaked, rephrased and corrected. Thanks. Krish | Talk 15:47, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- Question: Is Ratha Saradhi (1993) directed by Lata Mangeshkar?? Is Amazon a RS?? - Vivvt (Talk) 04:51, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- Nor is IndianTelevision.com reliable. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:33, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Kerala State Film Award for Best Actress[edit]
A state government award list based on National Film Award for Best Actress, an existing FL. I've not included the roles played by the actresses in the table as most of them aren't notable enough outside the film. Look forward to your comments and suggestions —Vensatry (ping) 16:27, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Comments from FrB.TG
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Support. Good job. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 15:59, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- @FrB.TG and Pavanjandhyala: Thanks for the review and timely responses. —Vensatry (ping) 16:04, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- Support Looks a worthy candidate!♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:15, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
List of Padma Bhushan award recipients (1954–1959)[edit]
being one of India's most coveted civilian awards, I think the list should be presented in the proper format and with the encyclopaedic content. I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it satisfies FL criteria. Looking forward to constructive criticism. With the success or failure of this nomination, I would decide to work on the similar lists for Indian civilian awards in the near future. - Vivvt (Talk) 18:05, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
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- @FrB.TG and Pavanjandhyala: I have addressed some of your concerns. Please let me know if anything else needs to be fixed. - Vivvt (Talk) 10:28, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Support. All my concerns were met by the nominator. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 16:26, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Quick comment – Isn't there a consensus for WP:IND articles not to have indic scripts in the lead? —Vensatry (ping) 15:35, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Comments – The first issue I found is the most serious, but there are a few writing issues as well.
- The most important question I have is this: what is meant to source the winners? If it's the external link at the end, that really shouldn't be classified as an external link. I'd recommend placing a cite to that page in the Recipient column of each table, which will provide proper verification for the table.
- Done
- As a general comment, I count 28 red links among the 94 recipients. The FL criteria call for a "minimal proportion" of red-linked items, and this is a touch borderline to me. I wouldn't oppose over this issue, but I wouldn't want to see too many more red-linked people either. Our lists are meant to aid in navigation, after all, in addition to being interesting to read on their own terms. And any articles that can be created from this work are of great benefit to the encyclopedia. This is just something to keep in mind for your future plans to work on award lists like this one, which I hope you will do.
- Since I started working these lists, I realized that @Tachs: is doing this wonderful job of converting these red links into the respective articles.
- Twice in the lead, I see "circular–shaped", which should have a regular old hyphen instead of a dash.
- Done
- "The conferral of the award is not considered official without its publication in the Gazette. Shouldn't Gazette be in italics, since it is a print publication?
- Done
- Same goes for the next sentence.
- Done
- "and are required to surrender their medals with their names are struck from the register." "with" → "when".
- Done
- "The original specifications of the award was a circle...". "specifications" should be singular, I believe.
- Done
- A comma would be helpful after "the highest of the three" by the beginning of the third paragraph.
- Done
- The last word of "four sports-person" should be made plural.
- Done
- Reference 9 is to an article from a fellow encyclopedia, which isn't the strongest possible source. Can something better be found to verify Chand's goal-scoring total, which is really the only fact that source needs to verify? Giants2008 (Talk) 21:22, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- Done Added two sources including one from BBC.
List of accolades received by Blue Is the Warmest Colour[edit]
Blue Is the Warmest Colour is a 2013 French romantic coming-of-age drama directed by Abdellatif Kechiche. It stars Adèle Exarchopoulos, and Léa Seydoux. This is a hopefully comprehensive run down of its accolades. As usual look forward to all the helpful comments on how to improve it. Cowlibob (talk) 10:03, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
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- @GagaNutella: Thanks for the review. Have added see also, removed redlinks, changed to accolades. In regard to the other comments, the first comment is not grammatically correct. The sentence is about who she plays in the film, which is a teenager who falls in love with an older woman. The dates are day/month/year as this is a French not an American film so doesn't follow American convention of month/day/year in its dates. Having more information about references which include who publishes the work is encouraged on Wikipedia, having just the work or publisher is acceptable but not the only way that references should be. Cowlibob (talk) 13:43, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- Support I understood the date format, I just said that because this is an English Wikipedia, but you are right. About the references, even I'm supporting your FLC, I think you should give a chance and use only one of them (work or publisher). Anyway, this list looks amazing. Great job!!! GagaNutellatalk 15:53, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- @GagaNutella: Thanks. I have made the format uniform for all refs. It is the English Wikipedia but not the American English Wikipedia so date formats can vary per WP:ENGVAR.Cowlibob (talk) 20:39, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you for being so understanding and honest. That's amazing! GagaNutellatalk 00:55, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- @GagaNutella: Thanks. I have made the format uniform for all refs. It is the English Wikipedia but not the American English Wikipedia so date formats can vary per WP:ENGVAR.Cowlibob (talk) 20:39, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- Support I understood the date format, I just said that because this is an English Wikipedia, but you are right. About the references, even I'm supporting your FLC, I think you should give a chance and use only one of them (work or publisher). Anyway, this list looks amazing. Great job!!! GagaNutellatalk 15:53, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- @GagaNutella: Thanks for the review. Have added see also, removed redlinks, changed to accolades. In regard to the other comments, the first comment is not grammatically correct. The sentence is about who she plays in the film, which is a teenager who falls in love with an older woman. The dates are day/month/year as this is a French not an American film so doesn't follow American convention of month/day/year in its dates. Having more information about references which include who publishes the work is encouraged on Wikipedia, having just the work or publisher is acceptable but not the only way that references should be. Cowlibob (talk) 13:43, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- Quick Comment
- Shouldn't "Critics' Choice Awards" be referred to as Critics' Choice Movie Award since that's they name of the award as it appears on its article page. I understand that the Critics' Choice Television Award and the aforementioned film awards are planning to merge again for the 2016 ceremony as denoted here, but this award was referred to as "Critics' Choice Movie Awards" during 2014. Just curious.
- --Birdienest81 (talk) 07:48, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
List of teams and cyclists in the 2012 Tour de France[edit]
The 2012 Tour de France, 2012 Tour de France, Prologue to Stage 10 and 2012 Tour de France, Stage 11 to Stage 20 articles are currently up for GA. When I saw the 2015 equivalent to this get nominated for FL, I thought that by getting the 2012 list to FL the race could become a good topic. I have followed the comments on 2015, and both are almost identical in terms of the structure and tables. BaldBoris 14:03, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Disclaimer: I nominated the 2015 list linked above, promoted to FL with BaldBoris' help. I've had a good look through this, trying to find something to quibble over, and I can't. I'm very happy to support it. One "nice to have" would be an additional image in the lead, perhaps this one. It's a really nice list. Relentlessly (talk) 12:51, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Support Other than this: "Riders of thirty-one different nationalities participated...", which should be 31 not thirty-one, I don't much wrong this list. Great work. NapHit (talk) 10:08, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Timeline of drafting and ratification of the United States Constitution[edit]
I am nominating this for featured list because, after viewing several history text timelines and after taking a look at the archived discussion of this article's unsuccessful 2008 "FLC" I set about revamping the page. There are now inline citations, more key events are noted, and more information given about those events. Also, the article now has a good introduction and helpful organizational headings. Drdpw (talk) 21:55, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- Comments from Maile
First of all, congratulations on the reformat. It looks soooooo much better without the table.
- The images are fine, but there's a long stretch without any images. Any chance there might be some on Commons to add?
- There are a lot of dates with no sourcing citation.
Oppose—there are many lines in this timeline with no inline citation. I would have expected at least one inline citation for each entry on the timeline. –Grondemar 23:01, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
@Maile66:@Grondemar: Every entry in the TL now has at least one inline citation. Drdpw (talk) 20:02, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Central Committee elected by the 17th Congress of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks)[edit]
Why? I felt it was important. Its pretty much a list of the entire Soviet party leadership 1934–1939. If someone notices why so many people died during the 1930s its because Stalin killed them. Thanks, --TIAYN (talk) 08:19, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
- Please replace all symbols with their corresponding symbol template for accessibility, similar to what you did for the Star of David. Thisisnotatest (talk) 08:42, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Thisisnotatest: They don't have corresponding template, and unlike the venus symbol and the star of david, these are random symbols which can mean whatever the editor wants.. There is no reason to templatize them. So why should I?--TIAYN (talk) 15:51, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Trust Is All You Need: Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Accessibility#Text says some of those symbols will likely be read aloud to blind people using screen reader software as question marks. Rather than creating new templates, you could replace those symbols with symbols that already have templates. Thisisnotatest (talk) 22:43, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Thisisnotatest: They don't have corresponding template, and unlike the venus symbol and the star of david, these are random symbols which can mean whatever the editor wants.. There is no reason to templatize them. So why should I?--TIAYN (talk) 15:51, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Thisisnotatest: But this is what I don't understand.. You said to templatize the star of david because there could be some people didn't know what the star of david was.. OK, so another description was added. ... But these symbols are random; so "† Indicates that the individual died of natural causes" should be enough (and a person can read this to a blind person). --TIAYN (talk) 07:48, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Trust Is All You Need: I believe I said it wasn't accessible to blind people. The reason is that screen readers won't read it. But actually, I was thinking about it today, there's a larger issue. When it was just one symbol on that other page, the Star of David, which is well recognized for Jewish, that was probably okay. But now, this key is adding multiple symbols with meanings unrelated to their appearance. That's a lot of meaning for all people, not just blind people, to keep in their heads (or to scroll up and down and up and down) as they try to use the table. It would be better to replace the symbols with a brief word or two and just add another column to the table to contain that new word.
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| K | "K" is an abbreviation of the word Keys. |
| All | Individual membership in the Politburo, Secretariat and Orgburo. |
| Pol | Politburo member. |
| Sec | Secretariat member. |
| Org | Orgburo member. |
| Pol(Cand), Org(Cand) | "Cand" refers to "Candidate member" |
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| Indicates that the individual was born into a Jewish family. | |
| Natural | Indicates that the individual died of natural causes. |
| Suicide | Indicates that the individual committed suicide. |
| Murder | Indicates that the individual was murdered. |
| Arrested | Indicates that the individual was arrested by Soviet authorities while holding a Central Committee seat. |
| Removed | Indicates that the individual was removed from the Central Committee. |
| Expelled | Indicates that the individual was expelled on 8 December 1937, but that the expulsion was confirmed later by the 13th Plenary Session on 20 January 1938.[1] |
| Elevated | Indicates that the individual was elevated from candidate to full member. |
List of reptiles of Bulgaria[edit]
I am nominating this for featured list because, as with the first list in that series, list of amphibians in Bulgaria, I hope that a successful promotion would encourage other users to create or improve lists of reptiles/amphibians (and other animals) by country. As I have stated in the argumentation of the first nomination, while the lists of mammals and birds generally cover most countries, the lists of amphibians and reptiles still cover only a limited number of countries, which is surprising, having in mind the available information. I have implemented the recommendations, suggested during the nomination discussion of the List of amphibians of Bulgaria. Regards, Gligan (talk) 13:38, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- The refs are a bit misleading. "The family contains about x species in y genera, of which z species occurs in Bulgaria.[ref]" where ref only refers to x and y but not z. pls move the ref location after the comma, and try to find some other ref for z. Nergaal (talk) 22:56, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- dont use links in the section titles, and mention that Rhynchocephalia and Crocodilia are extant orders not represented in BG. Nergaal (talk) 23:00, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- "there are no records since 193" should be there have been no. Nergaal (talk) 20:10, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- fix redling meadow lizard to Darevskia. Nergaal (talk) 20:10, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- I am not sure, but I think the status ntoe should be linked more than once, or placed somewhere at the top of the list. Nergaal (talk) 20:10, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
(intro should mention which of the species are threatened, since there are only like 5 of them. Nergaal (talk) 20:12, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- Please fix the color contrast in the table captions. White text on light blue is hard for some people to read. Thisisnotatest (talk) 09:02, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- It looks like Anguis fragilis and Anguis colchica are seperate species now and both of them live in Bulgaria. --TnoXX (talk) 15:51, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- What about Trachemys scripta? Biserkov in his Определител на земноводните и влечугите в България gives information about this turtle, although it's an just introduced species.--TnoXX (talk) 13:16, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- Review by PresN
Reviewing this list, since I reviewed the amphibian list (and I like to encourage these non-sports/music/film lists):
- A couple times in the lead, you use a spaced mdash ( — ) to make asides. This should either be a spaced ndash ( – ) or an unspaced mdash (—). Or just a colon.
- "The foundations of the Bulgarian herpetology" - "The foundations of Bulgarian herpetology"
- In all cases but Cheloniidae, you start off with "X are a family"; only for that family do you say "Cheloniidae is a family". This should be consistent, in whichever direction is correct.
- "recorded up to 1100 m altitude in Lozen Mountain" - this should either be on Lozen Mountain, in the Lozen mountains, or in the Lozen Mountain region, depending on what was meant; the capitalization/wording makes it hard to tell if the grammar is just off or if it's the proper name of a region.
- "The lower course of the rivers Struma, Arda, Maritsa, Tundzha, as well as..." - should have an "and" before Tundzha, as that's the end of the sublist. Also drop that comma, since it looks like you're not going with the oxford comma anywhere else- so it should be "The lower course of the rivers Struma, Arda, Maritsa and Tundzha, as well as..."
- "There are 73 species in 10 genera, of them two species occur in Bulgaria." - of which
- "Widespread in the whole country" -> "Widespread throughout the whole country"
- "Found in the whole country" -> "Found throughout the whole country"
- Scincidae is the only family that you don't mention how many genera there are, any reason?
- "There are 844 species in 118 genera, of them 12 species..." - of which
- "except for the high mountains of souther-western Bulgaria" - "southwestern (or southwest) Bulgaria"
- "Occurs in the Upper Thracian Plan, the Danubian Plane..." - should be "plain" both times, and I'll ignore the obvious snakes on a plane joke
- "Found in southern Bulgaria: lower Struma valley, eastern Rhodope Mountains, Dervent Heights, Strandzha" -> "Found in southern Bulgaria: lower Struma valley, eastern Rhodope Mountains, Dervent Heights and Strandzha"
- "Widespread in the whole country, up to 1600 m altitude..." - widespread throughout the whole country
- "Found in southern Bulgaria: lower Struma valley, eastern Rhodope Mountains, Dervent Heights, Strandzha, the southern Black Sea coast" -> "Found in southern Bulgaria: lower Struma valley, eastern Rhodope Mountains, Dervent Heights and Strandzha, and the southern Black Sea coast"
- "They include 329 species in 33 genera, of them..." - of which
- Vipera aspis and Vipera berus have spaced mdashes again
- The notes section should be spaced ndashes or unspaced mdashes, not spaced hyphens
- Redirects that don't seem intentional: four-lined snake is piped to its latin name which redirects to... four-lined snake
- I'd feel better about "The Reptile Database" being used as a source if there was a publisher in the ref or something that showed it was an RS, and not just some guy's pet project
That's it, most of the grammar things repeat a few times so it's not really that much. If this review was helpful, consider optionally reviewing my List of Square Enix video game franchises FLC up above. --PresN 20:27, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
List of Connecticut Huskies in the NFL Draft[edit]
- Nominator(s): –Grondemar 05:30, 22 September 2015 (UTC) & Robert4565 (talk)
After 3.5 years away from Wikipedia, I'm back at FLC with another UConn-themed list: List of Connecticut Huskies in the NFL Draft. I'd like to thank User:Robert4565 for pulling together this list in 2014; I added prose I had left in my userspace from 2012 as well as new prose, and cleaned up the list with high-quality references. I based the list restructure on the existing college team in the NFL Draft featured lists, as well as List of Connecticut Huskies in the WNBA Draft.
I believe this candidate fully meets the featured list criteria. Please review and concur if you agree. –Grondemar 05:30, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
I do too. Robert4565 (talk) 12:14, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
I believe the key needs to be split into three two-column tables and have column headings added to be accessible. Thisisnotatest (talk) 09:04, 26 September 2015 (UTC)- I'll take a look and try to fix it this afternoon. –Grondemar 15:31, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- After further consideration I decided to remove the key entirely and to incorporate the full name of the positions and links directly in the main list, more similar to List of Connecticut Huskies in the WNBA Draft than the previous NFL Draft FLs. This avoids the challenge of making the key table accessible; it also should make it easier for the reader to go to pages describing the positions without having to scroll up to the key. –Grondemar 00:26, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- Agreed, that solves the issue. I've struck out my comment. Thisisnotatest (talk) 00:36, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
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Comments – After being asked for a review on my talk page, I've come here with some thoughts. And yes, I do remember Will Beatty, although I didn't know he was from Connecticut.
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- Support – I quickly checked in on a commercial break during the game tonight and saw that my few piddling concerns have been resolved, so I'm happy to support now. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:04, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
List of World Heritage Sites in Slovenia[edit]
- Nominator(s): Tone 16:28, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
When preparing this list, I have followed the example of the Spanish article which is already a FL. Checking the criteria:
- 1 and 2 - I suppose this is fine. May require some language tweaks, I'll be happy if you point them out.
- 3 - it is complete and cannot be presented as a part of another article, at least not in this shape.
- 4 - tables work and are sortable.
- 5 - all images except for one are on Commons, the one with Plečnik is free under the US law.
- 6 - it is stable. Changes are expected when status of nominations change or more sites are added but that is about it.
Tone 16:28, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
This list is only 3+5 items long. Not sure it should be a FL, since the +5 might not happen anytime soon. I suggest get this at GAN after reformatting to have a minisection on each of the currently listed 3 sites. I also suggest to remove "list of" from the title. Nergaal (talk) 18:32, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- I see your point, however, FLs List of World Heritage Sites in Madagascar and List of World Heritage Sites in Cuba are not much longer themselves. And Madagascar also has only 3 sites on the main list. Still, if this fails, GAN is an option, I agree. --Tone 19:18, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- Those were promoted in 2010 and 2011. I am pretty sure that if they would have been nominated more recently they would have gotten more scrutiny about it. It is difficult to name something "list of 3 items" and be taken seriously. From my memory, shorts lists are delayed FL until they become somewhat longer, but in this case this "list" might never be longer than 3 entries. Nergaal (talk) 22:17, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Support: I would add a slightly bigger location map to the list (similar to the one for WH in Cuba) --Smihael (talk) 12:53, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- 400 -> 500 px. What do you think? I wouldn't go bigger than that. --Tone 19:21, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Review by PresN
Taking off my delegate hat to review this, with one caveat- this list is 8 items long in 2 tables, and as Nergaal mentioned that is a bit short; that said, I'm fine with it due to its status as one of a set (e.g. the "List of World Heritage sites in [country]" set). If this was a branched-off list such as a "list of accolades" list I wouldn't be okay with the length, but in this case it's cool, assuming the promoting delegate doesn't disagree. Anyways, review:
- I'd change "Slovenia, following the declaration of independence from Yugoslavia, succeeded the convention on 5 November 1992." to "Slovenia, following the declaration of independence from Yugoslavia on 25 June 1991, succeeded the convention on 5 November 1992.", just to give a little more context.
- "The first site [...] were the Škocjan Caves" -> was
- "inscribed at the 10th session in 1986" -> "inscribed at the 10th UNESCO session in 1986"
- "both of them being transnational entries" -> "both of them transnational entries"
- "pile dwellings at Ig, within the Prehistoric pile dwellings around the Alps in 2011, and Idrija, as Heritage of Mercury. Almadén and Idrija in 2012." -> "pile dwellings at Ig, part of the "Prehistoric pile dwellings around the Alps" transnational site, in 2011; and Idrija, as part of the "Heritage of Mercury. Almadén and Idrija" transnational site, in 2012."
- "Of these three sites, Škocjan Caves are a natural site" -> either "the Škocjan Caves are" or "Škocjan Caves is"
- The table key is mostly unnecessary; the name and location and description is entirely self-evident from the name. I'd change the header to "In the following table, the UNESCO data includes the site's reference number, the year the site was inscribed on the World Heritage List, and the criteria it was listed under: criteria i through vi are cultural, whereas vii through x are natural." I'd also personally put that as a note on the UNESCO column, but either way is fine.
- Comments is a bad column name, because that's not really what's in there; I'd change it to "Shared with", drop "shared with" from cells that have that, and put {{n/a}} in the empty cells
- Ig is missing a space in "iv,v"
- "Two sites in Slovenia are listed, the pile dwellings in Ig, the northern group (kolišča na Igu, severna skupina), and the pile dwellings in Ig, southern group (kolišča na Igu, južna skupina)." -> "Two sites in Slovenia are listed: the pile dwellings in Ig, northern group (kolišča na Igu, severna skupina), and the pile dwellings in Ig, southern group (kolišča na Igu, južna skupina)."
- "The area that developed for the particular needs of alpine pasture cattle-raising" -> "The area that was developed for the particular needs of alpine pasture cattle-raising", or "The area developed for the particular needs of alpine pasture cattle-raising", depending on what you meant.
- That entire description needs to be rewritten; it's two sentences jammed together and it's confusing as to subject-verb matching. I'd go with "Ždrocle Virgin Forests in the forest reserves Krokar and Snežnik represent an outstanding example of undisturbed, complex temperate forests. They demonstrate the postglacial expansion process of such forests and exhibit the most complete and comprehensive ecological patterns and processes of pure and mixed stands of European Beech across a variety of environmental conditions."
- Architectural heritage of Jože Plečnik description starts with a sentence fragment; revise into a full sentence.
- The "Shared with" bit above applies to this table too
- References are malformed; you're misusing the templates. You have UNESCO World Heritage Centre as the author of the refs, but they should be listed as the publisher, with author blank. The refs also need an accessdate. I think we can safely assume that archiving the refs is very optional for these citations, though.
- Prehistoric Pile dwellings around the Alps is redirecting to lowercase p pile, no other redirects
- If you found this review helpful, consider optionally reviewing my List of Square Enix video game franchises FLC above. --PresN 21:50, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you! I will try to go through the comments this weekend. --Tone 10:22, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
- How are we doing with this batch of comments? At a glance, it looks like at least some work has been done, but it would be nice to have the progress updated here. Although we can leave this FLC active for a little while longer, it is close enough to ending in a promotion that it would be a shame if things were to bog down now. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:16, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, I was kind of busy ... I addressed all the above comments, just the references are left to be fixed. I used the script to format them, I guess I'll have to go manually through after all. Give me a couple of days, ok? ;) --Tone 08:20, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- How are we doing with this batch of comments? At a glance, it looks like at least some work has been done, but it would be nice to have the progress updated here. Although we can leave this FLC active for a little while longer, it is close enough to ending in a promotion that it would be a shame if things were to bog down now. Giants2008 (Talk) 02:16, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you! I will try to go through the comments this weekend. --Tone 10:22, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
England cricket team Test results (1877–1914)[edit]
I recently came across List of England Test matches, which was a huge list of every England Test match, but was so big that it became pretty useless. I have condensed that page into the summary that it is now, and split the results lists down by era to hopefully make them more accessible. This is the first of them. The list is loosely based upon the similar Scotland national football team 1872–1914 results, which is a FL. As always, all comments, criticisms and nattering welcome! Harrias talk 13:59, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
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@Relentlessly: Thanks for your valuable input on the prose; I've updated the article now to reflect the suggested changes. Harrias talk 08:56, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- Happy to support this now. Relentlessly (talk) 10:11, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
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Comments - looks good
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- Why are all entries for Adelaide Oval, the same apart from the 1908 one? I think just having Adelaide Oval, as you do for the majority is fine.
- Same for Sydney Cricket Ground, there is one rogue entry as well.
Other than that, it looks good. NapHit (talk) 10:01, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Colonies Chris was doing some tidying, and I assume they just missed those couple. Cleaned both up now. Harrias talk 14:58, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
List of Alamo defenders[edit]
This list is part of the Battle of the Alamo series of articles. Karanacs helped with cross-checking of sources, an intrinsic factor in making this list as accurate as possible without original research. For some in Texas where a family tree might claim an ancestor on either side of the battle, knowing who was inside the fortress is personal. For academics and other "Alamoheads" (as they call themselves), it has been more of an obsessive quest for 179 years. Each generation brings new methodologies to archival research, to reaffirm or debunk existing names on the list, and hoping to discover yet another defender.— Maile (talk) 12:09, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
- Quick comment
- I haven't looked at this in great depth, but one query. A casualty is defined as "a person killed or injured". But given that this list is split into casualties and survivors, are we to assume all those listed as casualty died? If so, shouldn't they be listed instead as fatalities? Harrias talk 20:28, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- Review by PresN
Wikilink Texian the first time you use it in the lead, since you don't explain the term and then link it later in "Identifying the combatants"
You introduce Lindley simply as Thomas Ricks Lindley; at least mention that they're a historian or whatever, even if you leave the mention of their book until the second mention
"Determining exactly who was inside the Alamo has been an ongoing historical quest. It is likely there will never be a definitive list." - the phrasing here is a bit editorializing
There's a lot of inconsistencies in the Notes column between whether you're using full sentences or sentence fragments; not only should this be consistent (I recommend fragments unless you have a multi-sentence note) but fragments should not end in a period. The "He" you occasionally use is especially off-putting, since most times you refer to the person in that row by their last name instead
For sortable lists, you can't just link the "first" instance of something, because if you sort on a column which one is first changes. You'll need to link either everything or nothing in the Birthplace column
Denmark, Randers is backwards and redirects
Backwards city/states seems to be a thing you have; you should replace them with {{sort|state, city|[[city, state]]}} to get the sorting you want without having to flip the order- I find the split between this list and List of Texan survivors of the Battle of the Alamo, which is a subset of this list, kin of odd- shouldn't that one be merged into this one?
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- Well, no, they were never meant to be merged. The defenders list was created in January 2008, and is just that...only the ones who were armed and actively involved in the fighting. The survivors which Karanacs created in March 2008 and took to FL, was meant to be only the survivors and contains children and other civilian non-combatants. While I can't answer for Karanacs, it's clear she never meant the survivor list to be part of the defender list.— Maile (talk) 21:42, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
There are some errors in footnotes- missing space in 3, odd period after the page number in 6, missing space in 15, mucked up dash in 23, period again in 38 and 56, 67, 70, 72, etc (ctrl-f for ".;" for the rest), missing space in 83, 93, 113, 115, 122, etc, and you're really inconsistent on if a reference ends with a period after the page number or not
- ISBNs are all inconsistent in your references- ISBNs should be (978-)1-4444-4444-1.
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- PresN - I need clarification on what you are saying. Are you saying they should all be 13-number ISBNs? Because not all ISBNs are 13 numbers - they just aren't. Even with the 13-number ISBNs, how the numbers are separated depends on where the book was published. In many, if not most, of the cases the ISBN numbers were taken directly from the book cover and is exactly like the publisher had them. I don't know about the parenthesis (978) you are using. It isn't inconsistency, unless I misunderstand you. — Maile (talk) 21:42, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- They don't have to be ISBN13s; what I meant was that for, for example, in ref 2 you have the isbn as "978-1-55622-255-9": this should be "978-1-5562-2255-9". For ISBN10s, like ref 3, it should not be "0-938349-68-6", it should be "0-9383-4968-6". I'm looking it up now, and it seems like that's not actually a universal rule; that said, they should be consistent, and 1-4-4-1 was the way I was told was the correct pattern. I suppose you can pick whatever pattern you like best; it's a really, really minor thing that I would never consider opposing over, I just noticed they weren't consistent. --PresN 00:43, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- Regarding the style on iSBNs, it's one of those things at Wikipedia that triggers different opinions on different articles/reviews. Just for the heck of it, I know @Mr Stephen: uses AWB to clean up ISBN numbers. If he would like to run that on this article, I would have no objection. — Maile (talk) 12:09, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- Happy to help. PresN:, the length of the fields varies, there isn't a simple 1-4-4-1 rule. Mr Stephen (talk) 12:25, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- Regarding the style on iSBNs, it's one of those things at Wikipedia that triggers different opinions on different articles/reviews. Just for the heck of it, I know @Mr Stephen: uses AWB to clean up ISBN numbers. If he would like to run that on this article, I would have no objection. — Maile (talk) 12:09, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- They don't have to be ISBN13s; what I meant was that for, for example, in ref 2 you have the isbn as "978-1-55622-255-9": this should be "978-1-5562-2255-9". For ISBN10s, like ref 3, it should not be "0-938349-68-6", it should be "0-9383-4968-6". I'm looking it up now, and it seems like that's not actually a universal rule; that said, they should be consistent, and 1-4-4-1 was the way I was told was the correct pattern. I suppose you can pick whatever pattern you like best; it's a really, really minor thing that I would never consider opposing over, I just noticed they weren't consistent. --PresN 00:43, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
- PresN - I need clarification on what you are saying. Are you saying they should all be 13-number ISBNs? Because not all ISBNs are 13 numbers - they just aren't. Even with the 13-number ISBNs, how the numbers are separated depends on where the book was published. In many, if not most, of the cases the ISBN numbers were taken directly from the book cover and is exactly like the publisher had them. I don't know about the parenthesis (978) you are using. It isn't inconsistency, unless I misunderstand you. — Maile (talk) 21:42, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- If this review was helpful, consider optionally reviewing my List of Square Enix video game franchises FLC up above. --PresN 21:22, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
List of British Columbia general elections[edit]
This article was previously promoted to Featured list status in December 2006 (and subsequently became part of a Featured topic in January 2007). However, earlier this year, in April 2015, this article was delisted as a Featured list due to its lack of inline citations, out-of-date referencing, and MOS-type problems with its table-lists (e.g. not adhering to WP:SALORDER, and antiquated table coding, etc.). I have spent the last few weeks attempting to resolve those issues, and I believe this article is now ready to be relisted as a Featured list, so I am (re-)nominating this article for Featured list status. (Most of the other Canadian provincial elections lists articles have also been delisted as FL's, outside of List of Alberta general elections which is still a Featured list, and I hope to fix those other articles, and renominate those over the next couple of months... But I am starting with the British Columbia article, as the one closest to being completely renovated enough for WP:FL status.) I look forward to working through this process. Thank you! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:48, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Just some drive-by comments, no time for a full review yet.
- "This article provides a summary of results" is no longer considered appropriate for featured lists, nor is "The chart on the right shows", and "The table below shows"...
- The lead should summarize the table, for example include sentences on any trends over the years, and referenced explanations. It needs to be substantially rewritten.
- I have substantially reworked the lede. I doubt it's anywhere near "perfect" yet, but hopefully it's getting there. I based the first paragraph off List of Alberta general elections, but reworked the intro sentence so it's not just a "copy" of the Alberta one. (That intro sentence may be "clunky" as a result – if so, please let me know...) But hopefully the lede is at least more "professional" now. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:26, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- The second graph is missing the latest election results.
- That second figure is a problem. I can't tell what it was worked up in, but I don't think it was Microsoft Excel. As a result, I doubt I can just whip up an "updated for 2013" version of that one that'll look similar to the way that figure looks now. Additionally, it seems wholly redundant with the article's first graph-figure. As a result, if there's no objection, I'd like to just remove the second figure from the article. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 17:26, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- The first paragraph of "Elections prior to provincial political parties" has a reference, but I can't find any of that information on page 6 as indicated.
- OK, I hope it's OK to quote the source verbetim for the purposes of this discussion, but I'm going to do so (this is from p.6, as per the reference at the article):
I think this section of the source pretty much confirms the first paragraph of the 'Elections prior to provincial political parties' section, as well some of what's asserted in the second and third sentences of the last paragraph in the lede. However, it's certainly possible that both of these can be worded better to align them more closely with the quoted text from the source, above. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:44, 18 September 2015 (UTC)...Before 1903 lines were drawn between Government supporters, grouped around the Premier, and the Opposition, grouped around one or more Opposition leaders. Candidates declared themselves as one or the other, or as Independents. There was no formal selection process for the most part so it was not uncommon for Government (or Opposition) candidates to be running against another Government (or Opposition) candidate... After an election, and not infrequently during the life of a Parliament, the position of Government and Opposition was often reversed. From 1871 to 1903 there were eight parliaments and fifteen governments; the seventh and eight Parliaments accounted for six of those governments. Allegiances shifted frequently depending on the issue, there was little to no discipline. In 1886 separate Labour candidates first appeared and in 1900 a Socialist candidate was nominated. The 1900 general election is also significant in that although the traditional division of Government and Opposition was still present, party groupings were beginning to play a role and it foreshadowed the election of 1903 along full party lines.2
- OK, I hope it's OK to quote the source verbetim for the purposes of this discussion, but I'm going to do so (this is from p.6, as per the reference at the article):
- The entire second paragraph of "Elections prior to provincial political parties" is completely unsourced, missing any wikilinks and needs to be written more clearly. That whole paragraph is painful to read.
- "Full details on any election are linked via the year of the election at the start of the row" is almost tautological for any wikipedia user. And is written twice in the article.
It's definitely improved since it was demoted thanks to your efforts, but there is still quite a bit of work to get it back to featured status. Mattximus (talk) 14:16, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
Round two:
- The lead is much, much better than before. Just a minor quibble: the last sentence is bit clunky, and can be fixed by being a bit more clear by writing something like ... "which won every election since 2001" or "all subsequent elections since 2001" or something like that.
- Yes better to scrap the second image since the information is contained within the first one anyway. The first one is good, but it would be much better if the grey background was white, but that's not a reason to oppose the nomination.
- Yes – I put in a request to the original author to update that second figure, but have heard nothing back. As it is redundant to the first figure in any case, I have simply removed the second one from the article. As to improving the first figure, I think it was worked up in Microsoft Excel – I was thinking about trying to recreate it anyway to, among other things, get rid of the gray background (which was the default background color for graphs in certain versions of MS Excel...). I will probably be busy this week, but I will try to get to that soon... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:24, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- As for the table, I'm not sure if the explanatory paragraph is needed at all. Maybe it can be removed and the title changed to "Summary of election results", especially since the 1903 cut off is explained in the paragraph below and the paragraph above. The table looks good but can it be left justified?
- I've left the intro paragraph in for now, but this particular question is an important one because if consensus is that these tables need no direct "intro text", that will affect all of the other Canadian Provincial election articles as well. So I wouldn't mind hearing from others for their opinions on this question... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:24, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- Oops – forgot to mention that I removed "centering" on the main elections table, so it is now 'left-justified'. Do you want the second (pre-1903) elections table also left-justified? – I'll admit: I prefer that one "centered" as it's smaller. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:30, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- The paragraph under "Elections prior to provincial political parties" needs a bit of rewording. For example: "Until the 1903 election, political parties in BC had no official recognition" is needlessly passive. Can be written "Political parties in British Columbia had no official recognition until the 1903 election. The next sentence does not make sense. Can get rid of "however" and start with Some candidates.... "and were considered as "Government" candidates"..."whereas those not in support of the present administration were considered "Non-Government" or Independent." What is meant by "did not bear out"... that should be clarified.
- The last paragraph needs to be rewritten to be more clear.
Looking close to a support! Mattximus (talk) 19:12, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Round Three: Looks much better overall than before, I think my nitpicking is complete. If you do get a chance to change that opening graph, in addition to making the background white, I would also remove the horizontal lines as they weave in and out of the bars making it quit distracting. The only part preventing me from supporting is the unsourced last paragraph. It contains interesting stuff, but it needs to be sourced. Mattximus (talk) 17:31, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
FIFA World Cup top goalscorers[edit]
I am nominating this for featured list because I think it is an interesting stats page that passes all the FL?. Last time it failed because of lack of reviewer interest, which I hope will not be the case this time. Nergaal (talk) 18:34, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- Comment please fix all the SHOUTING in the references, there's no need to have the surnames of every player capitalised, even if that's what the website you're using does. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:36, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
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- Technical comments Tournaments column doesn't sort properly. Use consistent accuracy for goal average. Make sure all player names include their diacritics. Don't use bold alone as a way to distinguish between players. Date format should be consistent from table to table. Why isn't the second table sortable? Why are you suddenly abbreviating country names without a key? Ref 2 doesn't ref the numbers in that table at all. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:41, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
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- Sorts now. so you want a 1.00 instead of 1.0? You have an example where I missed it and it doesn't? Done. What date format are you referring to? Which column would you consider it to be necessary sortable (since it is a timeline table)? For brevity/clarity purposes as having the full names seems to clutter the table too much. Which table, the intro? Nergaal (talk) 22:46, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
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- Comment I'll do a proper review once these issues are resolved, right now it needs a lot of work. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:41, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- Comment (1) "The 29 top goalscorers played for 17 different nations, seven players being Brazilian, and eight from Germany or West Germany." Looks like the actual numbers for Brazil and (W) Germany are 5 and 3 respectively.
- (2) Can you please fix the sorting using the 'world cup' column in the 'top scorer by tournament' table. Once you sort it using one of the other columns, clicking the sort in the World Cup does not sort in the order of world cups.
- Figured out what is happening. When you sort using the 'world cup' column, it now sorts as per the host country. So the Argentina 78 appears first, followed by Brazil 1950, Brazil 2014 etc. The column should be sorted according to the year of the competition - 1930, 1934 etc. Tintin 09:56, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
Few more quick quibbles before a proper review, I wish WP:PR was still functional these days....
- Number of goalscorers[2] isn't referenced by [2].
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- FIFA seems to have switched the links quite a bit (so I have to go though quite a bit of other refs to relink them). I switched the used reference to something that is a list to all the WCs. I could change that to a note saying something like "see a complete list for 1930, ...., 2014 if you think that is more appropriate. As I've said above, FIFA does not seem to provide a compiled table (as of now), so all the counted totals are just that, manually counted (that is why I have ~ and >). Nergaal (talk) 21:20, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- See WP:CAPTION.
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- Respect diacritics.
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- I am not sure what you mean here. Nergaal (talk) 21:20, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- For players names, be consistent with diacritics. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:28, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- The only place I wasn't strictly consistent is in the FIFA titles that FIFA themselves use. Outside of the ref titles, all the names should be consistent. Nergaal (talk)
- They need to be correct, not just consistent. Suker, Eusebio, (Rivellino needs to be spelt correctly), James Rodriguez, Oscar Miguez, Zidane.... to name a few. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:31, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- The only place I wasn't strictly consistent is in the FIFA titles that FIFA themselves use. Outside of the ref titles, all the names should be consistent. Nergaal (talk)
- For players names, be consistent with diacritics. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:28, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- I am not sure what you mean here. Nergaal (talk) 21:20, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Goal average still isn't to the same precision.
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- I can change it, but to me saying 1.00 seems a bit strange. Nergaal (talk) 21:20, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Same precision please. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:28, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- I can change it, but to me saying 1.00 seems a bit strange. Nergaal (talk) 21:20, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- "at least 5 goals" MOSNUM please.
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- I thought anything under 10 should be spelled out. Nergaal (talk) 21:20, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Uhhuh. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:28, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
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- 5 is under 10. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:31, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
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- Uhhuh. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:28, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- I thought anything under 10 should be spelled out. Nergaal (talk) 21:20, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Date formats in the article like "1930-07-13" are just a joke, not easily readable by normal humans.
- Three-letter-abbreviations for countries is bad, spell it out.
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- They are commonly used in FIFA broadcasts.
- This is a Wikipedia article, not a FIFA broadcast. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:28, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
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- This is a Wikipedia article, not a FIFA broadcast. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:28, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- They are commonly used in FIFA broadcasts.
- 1+1?
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- Twice, there were two separate games played at the same tournament against TCS and Turkey.
- Publisher is FIFA, not FIFA.com.
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- WP:DASH fails in ref titles, e.g. ref 31.
- "M.espn.go.com. " is ESPN.
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The Rambling Man (talk) 21:14, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- @The Rambling Man: I have fixed most of the issues you mentioned, and left a few clarification questions for the remaining few. Any suggestions? Nergaal (talk) 16:05, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Sure, there are some things I can still see that need to be addressed.
- The micro-table in the lead may be referenced by [1] but how? [1] just leads to a generic FIFA website page.
- You need to explain why goals in penalty shoot-outs are not included.
- You have "2,300" then "1200", so be consistent throughout.
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- "edition" is very American, why not just use the name of the tournament, e.g. instead of "The top goalscorer of the first edition was" perhaps "The top goalscorer of the inaugural competition was"?
- "Since then, only 22 players have surpassed this threshold at games " not clear, it seems that Stábile scored all his goals in a single tournament. This sentence is unclear.
- " in 1954" Easter egg link.
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- There are a few links like this. You think I should just remove all the yearly links? Nergaal (talk) 03:17, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- I have been encouraged to remove them from GAs so as this is a featured candidate, yes, rephrasing it each time is the solution. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:07, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- There are a few links like this. You think I should just remove all the yearly links? Nergaal (talk) 03:17, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- "managed to improve on this record" clumsy, just "improved on" is fine.
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- " in only six games" POV. State the facts, don't apply POV.
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- He has the third best g/g average. Doesn't that count as "only"? Nergaal (talk) 03:08, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- "at the 1970 edition" awful, perhaps, "in the 1970 World Cup finals".
- "during Germany's win" Germany or West Germany?
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- " a total of " unnecessary.
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- "between 1998 and 2006." easter eggs.
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- " Germany's Miroslav Klose would go on to" why relink Germany national team?
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- " Germany's Miroslav Klose would go on to" why "would go on", it's happened, speak in English.
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- "consecutive tournaments between 2002 and 2014" easter eggs.
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- " Pelé with twelve between 1958 and 1970, and Jürgen Klinsmann with eleven between 1990 and 1998." easter eggs and unreferenced.
So that's half-way through the lead, I'll give more feedback once these issues are addressed. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:35, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Oh, and as for player's names, I didn't mean the ref titles, I meant their usage in the article itself. Make things like (right) into (right) in image captions. spell Ernst Wilimowski correctly, explain what "Goal average" means (we know this, but why should a layman get it?), I'm also not seeing how the up arrow is adequately referenced, e.g. Tim Cahill's link doesn't demonstrate that he played for Australia within the past twelve months (and surely that will age really quickly, you need a different way of explaining this....) The Rambling Man (talk) 18:56, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
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- I sincerely am completely unable to find the examples you see; I went multiple times and still cannot catch any missing/inconsistent diacritics.
- e.g. Oscar Míguez should be Óscar Míguez, Zinédine Zidane should be Zinedine Zidane etc etc... The Rambling Man (talk) 07:07, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- I had absolutely no idea about the italics use but I changed it.
- Fixed the Wilmowski name.
- Added tooltip to goal average even though I find it extremely weird.
- Well you could change the name to "goals per game" then. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:07, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Changed the wording to "have continued playing for their national team after the 2014 tournament".
- I sincerely am completely unable to find the examples you see; I went multiple times and still cannot catch any missing/inconsistent diacritics.
Nergaal (talk) 03:30, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
A few more thoughts on the next portion of the lead:
- "with 9 goals" MOS says "nine".
- Image captions which are complete sentences need full stops.
- I still fail to see how ref [1] verifies the information in the table in the lead.
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- Is this a RS so I can use it as a replacement? Nergaal (talk) 15:11, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- I don't know if that's an RS, have you asked the football project? The Rambling Man (talk) 18:03, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Is this a RS so I can use it as a replacement? Nergaal (talk) 15:11, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- "90 players who have scored at least five goals, only five " per WP:NUMNOTES, "Comparable quantities should be all spelled out or all in figures".
- Don't repeat first names after the first usage of a player's full name.
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- The lead is surprisingly devoid of references, e.g. where is inclusion in the all-star team referenced?
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- I'll repeat: where is the all-star team inclusion referenced? The Rambling Man (talk) 18:03, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Unless I completely messed something up, everything in the intro that does not have a ref there has a ref in the tables below. You would prefer to double up the ref usage? Nergaal (talk) 15:11, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
The Rambling Man (talk) 07:07, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- I think I fixed or addressed all the concerns you have pointed out. Let me know what is there still left to be done. Nergaal (talk) 20:05, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
What makes sporting99.com a reliable source? I can't see any evidence that it meets our requirements. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:07, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- I looked multiple times and I couldn't find any good ref for the All-Star team before 1994 so I removed the column entirely. Nergaal (talk) 19:40, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
AAA Mega Championship[edit]
I am nominating this for featured list with @MPJ-DK: because I feel it meets the criteria. MPJ and I worked on it for the last few days, merging the separate list and the main article to nominate it for FL. All issues will be addressed by MPJ and I.--WillC 03:50, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
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- "which effectively unified International Wrestling Council (IWC) World Heavyweight Championship" => "which effectively unified the International Wrestling Council (IWC) World Heavyweight Championship"
- "as well as the four number one contenders to each respective championship" - there were not four number one contenders to each championship, and the word "respective" is completely unnecessary. Change to "as well as the number one contender to each championship"
- "which was called simply Mexican Heavyweight Championship" => "which was referred to simply as the Mexican Heavyweight Championship"
- "Cibernético quit the company because Konnan took over AAA in Antonio Peña Memorial Show" => "Cibernético quit the company because Konnan took over AAA at the Antonio Peña Memorial Show"
- The date format for the general refs is different to that used for the specific refs
- In the lead you refer to Mesias winning the "finals" but in the bracket this match is shown as the "final". I'm not sure what the correct US usage is, but regardless they should be consistent
Hope this helps, ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:55, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
- I'll handle these shortly. They went by without my notice.--WillC 12:22, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
- @ChrisTheDude: All concerns addressed.--WillC 18:47, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
- One other quick point.....when you say "it is sometimes referred to in the English press", I presume you mean the English-language press, rather than the press in England......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:30, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- Support - all looks OK now -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:34, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
List of Governors of Arkansas[edit]
This was a featured list from September 2007 to this May, when it was rightly delisted for having an old format and poorly sourced information. After getting back into the governor list groove, I've taken the time to upgrade the format to include a term column (much superior to the previous style of percentages to indicate shared terms) and a portrait column (since we now have enough portraits to fill most of it out).
I also was bold and removed the living governor list (I can speak only for myself but I see this as excessive trivia that has no real world import) and the 'other high offices held' list, which I found to be difficult to maintain. It requires a bit of clunky prose, and ends up being a bit subjective. My personal rules were: Congressional offices, high executive offices, cabinet, district court or higher appointments, and ambassadorships. However, this would leave out certain things that people would be perhaps better known for, like commissioner of baseball or mayor of large cities. I will argue against replacing the living governor list, but I can easily go along with replacing the other high office list if people think it makes sense to keep.
Finally, the reason this was delisted: Data. Turns out that the best available sources on when Arkansas' governors took office disagree by a day or two for much of the state's history, so extensive verification and logical thinking had to be done to come up with the list as it is. Everything should be properly sourced now. Also, I discovered a new governor, Thomas Fletcher, which is not a sentence that often makes sense, but here we are.
It's been years since I've brought a list to FLC, so I expect my old standards are lacking, so I look forward to learning what new hotness I need to employ in this. Thank you! --Golbez (talk) 06:47, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
- I should point out that I'm also kind of doing this as a referendum; a new format has been brought to List of Governors of California and it includes things such as previous job, number of days in office, and the governor's birth and death dates and age. I don't like these; in order, they are subjective and not that useful (for Richard Nixon for president, would we say 'none'?); excessive trivia (it might just be me but I honestly don't understand why anyone cares); and irrelevant (their dates have nothing to do with this list. if someone wants to know them, the article is right there. including them is akin to including their wife's name, or place of birth). I seek discussion on not just this list, but it in comparison to that new format; if this list gets featured as it is then I'll work with the creator of the CA format to adapt it, and if this list doesn't get featured because of the other format being preferred, then I guess I'll stop fighting it. [And if this is absolutely the wrong place to have this discussion, please tell me where to take it. :)] --Golbez (talk) 03:18, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- Object: The party is indicated with color only, which is not accessible to blind or color-blind people. If you decide to add a visible R/D, make sure it has good contrast with the background, for example, a black letter R or letter D as text and a pale red or pale blue background. Or you could add a party column, the same as the California list. Thisisnotatest (talk) 06:52, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
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- Golbez, I believe they mean the red that indicates Republican and the blue that indicates Democrat. — Maile (talk) 18:59, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, I know what they mean. And there is a party column. That's my confusion. It's right there. Reads "Democratic" and sometimes "Republican". --Golbez (talk) 20:09, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Comment For the record, those tiny "party shading" (half-)columns are standard practice at U.S. politics (e.g. Pres. and Governor) lists, and at some of the Canadian elections lists too, and I really dislike them strongly. It should either be a full separate column, with written "R" & "D" (or "Rep" & "Dem") labels, or we really shouldn't bother! So this isn't just a problem with this Arkansas Governor article, but with U.S. politics lists articles in general. (I think someone tried to fix this at List of Presidents of the United States a few months back, but got voted down IIRC...) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:58, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- There is a column. With labels. I'm very confused how people aren't seeing this. The color bars are simply for added illustration (and shouldn't have text over them). That way it's easy to see party control over time without having to scan for words. It also makes it easier to see Lt Governor parties, who don't get their own party column. --Golbez (talk) 20:09, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- What I mean by this is that it's not a separate 'Party' column with "R" & "D" labels included right there in the cells. I find the way this has been handled at the U.S. politics lists to be highly... inelegant. I understand that they've been this way forever, and there's a lot of inertial support for them, but I strongly prefer the way this is handled at, say, List of Alberta general elections or List of post-confederation Prince Edward Island general elections. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:15, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- The rows used to be entirely colored. Then we went to the color bars. I find that more elegant than coloring in the party column, I don't like (and in many cases it runs afoul of accessibility) having text over color. I look at those articles and I want to split the winner column into one with a color bar and the party name. --Golbez (talk) 20:20, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- That seems to me like it might be the best ultimate "solution" for these articles – move the party-colors "half-column" over to be with the 'Party' label column, rather that the awkward way it's currently included with the officeholder's name. But I'd better drop this here, as this discussion has less to do with this specific FL nominee, than it does with a discussion that maybe should be held about the entire "suite" of these articles... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:31, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- The rows used to be entirely colored. Then we went to the color bars. I find that more elegant than coloring in the party column, I don't like (and in many cases it runs afoul of accessibility) having text over color. I look at those articles and I want to split the winner column into one with a color bar and the party name. --Golbez (talk) 20:20, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Ah, I see what you mean!... OK, what I'm saying is I'd prefer that the party "colors" should be moved over to that column. (Something would have to be worked out for the Lt. Gov. column too...) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:17, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Well that is certainly possible, though then we have the odd construction of color/party/color/name (due to lieutenant governor). Putting the color bar on the left gives people a quick look at the party before scanning to the middle of the table, and balances the color bars out. --Golbez (talk) 20:20, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- What I mean by this is that it's not a separate 'Party' column with "R" & "D" labels included right there in the cells. I find the way this has been handled at the U.S. politics lists to be highly... inelegant. I understand that they've been this way forever, and there's a lot of inertial support for them, but I strongly prefer the way this is handled at, say, List of Alberta general elections or List of post-confederation Prince Edward Island general elections. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 20:15, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- There is a column. With labels. I'm very confused how people aren't seeing this. The color bars are simply for added illustration (and shouldn't have text over them). That way it's easy to see party control over time without having to scan for words. It also makes it easier to see Lt Governor parties, who don't get their own party column. --Golbez (talk) 20:09, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Golbez, I believe they mean the red that indicates Republican and the blue that indicates Democrat. — Maile (talk) 18:59, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
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Comments by Dudley
- "Orval Faubus served the longest term as state governor, being elected six times to serve twelve years. Bill Clinton, elected five times over two distinct terms, fell only one month short of twelve years." I was puzzled at the six and five terms. I think you need to leave it out or explain that the term was changed to four years during Clinton's governorship.
- "so there was a single line of governors, though as the state fell to Union forces there was a loyalist government put in place with an insignificant Confederate government in exile." This seems to me confusing. Perhaps something like "but when the state fell to Union forces in 1863, the Confederate governor maintained an ineffective government in exile until 1865, while a Union governor was appointed in 1864."
- "Murphy was elected provisional governor by a loyalist government set up after Union control of the state was established". This is a bit vague. Did the US President appoint a government which chose the governor until the state was re-admitted to the Union in 1868?
- A fine list. Just a few minor points. Dudley Miles (talk) 16:04, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
List of local nature reserves in Somerset[edit]
I already have one FLC nomination of the national nature reserves in Somerset, which has three supports and I believe "reviewers' concerns have been substantially addressed". This is a companion list covering all of the local nature reserves in the county.— Rod talk 10:04, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
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Comments per your request on my talkpage, apologies for not getting back to you sooner...
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- Support The Rambling Man (talk) 08:22, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Comments by Dudley
- "The smallest at just 0.53 hectares (1.3 acres) is Wellington Basins where a series of small ponds and surrounding grassland and woodland which provide a habitat for grey wagtail, dipper and reed bunting." This sentence does not seem grammatical.
- "Uphill Hill and Walborough Common are adjacent to each other in Uphill and are sometimes treated as a single site covering 38.14 hectares (94.2 acres)." Uphill Hill and Walborough Common should be linked. Also the sentence is not referenced (here and in the descriptions of the sites). Who treats it as a single site?
- As discussed above the MAGIC government mapping site treats it as one reserve, (see this map) while Natural England has two separate data sheets. I am unsure how best to present this.— Rod talk 18:43, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- This seems to me a technical detail not worth mentioning in the main text - let alone three times. I would add an efn note to the two reserves stating that NE has separate details pages but one map covering both sites. I see above you got no response emailing NE. I find that surprising as they were very good at dealing with my queries about London and Hertfordshire and corrected a number of errors. (Others they never corrected, presumably because they were unable to get the information from the boroughs.) Perhaps you could try phoning them? You can get the area from this Somerset page, which says that Uphill is 17 hectares, so presumably the rest is Walborough. The page also says that Uphill is an SSSI. There is an SSSI called Uphill Cliff and you could check the maps to see whether they are the same. Dudley Miles (talk) 21:31, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. I have tried to amend in line with your suggestions.— Rod talk 07:16, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think that is quite right. You need to explain that you are using a different source for the Uphill and Walborough areas and you have not referenced the last sentences in the descriptions. How about 1. Add at the beginning of note a "Unless otherwise stated," 2. Delete notes e and f. 3. Add one note to both the Uphill and Walborough areas using {{efn|name=x|. "The areas of Uphill Hill and Walborough Common are not given by NE as although there are separate information pages for the sites, the map shows them as a single site with an area of 38 hectares. The areas for these sites are based on Somerset site..., which states that Uphill has an area of 17 hectares, which leaves 21 for Walborough. Refs Somerset site and Magic map. 4. Ref for the descriptions Uphill Magic map, and for the statement that Uphill LNR and SSSI are largely coterminous the Somerset site. Does this make sense? Dudley Miles (talk) 09:14, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- I have attempted to edit following your suggestions, but could you take another look?— Rod talk 19:21, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Comparing the LNR and SSSI maps, the SSSI is only half the size, 19 hectares, so partly coterminous might be more accurate than largely. It looks as if Walborough also covers a small part of Severn Estuary SSSI, but you may not think this is not worth mentioning. Dudley Miles (talk) 19:56, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- I have attempted to edit following your suggestions, but could you take another look?— Rod talk 19:21, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think that is quite right. You need to explain that you are using a different source for the Uphill and Walborough areas and you have not referenced the last sentences in the descriptions. How about 1. Add at the beginning of note a "Unless otherwise stated," 2. Delete notes e and f. 3. Add one note to both the Uphill and Walborough areas using {{efn|name=x|. "The areas of Uphill Hill and Walborough Common are not given by NE as although there are separate information pages for the sites, the map shows them as a single site with an area of 38 hectares. The areas for these sites are based on Somerset site..., which states that Uphill has an area of 17 hectares, which leaves 21 for Walborough. Refs Somerset site and Magic map. 4. Ref for the descriptions Uphill Magic map, and for the statement that Uphill LNR and SSSI are largely coterminous the Somerset site. Does this make sense? Dudley Miles (talk) 09:14, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. I have tried to amend in line with your suggestions.— Rod talk 07:16, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- This seems to me a technical detail not worth mentioning in the main text - let alone three times. I would add an efn note to the two reserves stating that NE has separate details pages but one map covering both sites. I see above you got no response emailing NE. I find that surprising as they were very good at dealing with my queries about London and Hertfordshire and corrected a number of errors. (Others they never corrected, presumably because they were unable to get the information from the boroughs.) Perhaps you could try phoning them? You can get the area from this Somerset page, which says that Uphill is 17 hectares, so presumably the rest is Walborough. The page also says that Uphill is an SSSI. There is an SSSI called Uphill Cliff and you could check the maps to see whether they are the same. Dudley Miles (talk) 21:31, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- As discussed above the MAGIC government mapping site treats it as one reserve, (see this map) while Natural England has two separate data sheets. I am unsure how best to present this.— Rod talk 18:43, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- "This reserve covers unimproved neutral grassland" No change needed but I wish someone competent would create an article on neutral grassland. There is even a category for neutral grassland SSSIs!
- "The dunes, west of the village of Berrow, has a golf course, and is a noted site". "has" and "is" do not agree in number with "dunes"
- " A 200 hectares (490 acres) area was designated in 1952 as a SSSI." Presumably the 16.7 hectare LNR is part of the SSSI, but this should be spelled out.
- "The site includes beech trees up to 200 years old. There are also oak and hazel. It provides a habitat for birds including blackbirds, woodpeckers, goldcrests and jackdaws and small mammals." This reads a bit awkwardly. How about "The site has beech trees up to 200 years old, oaks and hazels. Birds include blackbirds, woodpeckers, goldcrests and jackdaws, and there are small mammals such as badgers and foxes."
- "It includes the bath asparagus". This does not sound right to me. Maybe "Plants include bath asparagus."
- Chard Reservoir. Ref 19 appears to be a dead link as it goes to the Keep Britain Tidy home page. I would add that Chard Canal closed in 1868 to make clear that the reservoir has not been active for 150 years.
- "This reserve includes a hill fort dating from the Iron Age on Wain's Hill and Church Hill. It includes calcareous grassland, coastal scrub and woodland" Repetition of "includes". The second one could be changed to "has".
- "The lakes are the centrepiece of the one mile long[44] nature reserve which includes dry woodland which has a ground flora including common bluebell, dogs mercury and twayblade." This is awkward with the repetition of "which". I would split the sentence into two.
- I think "rhyne" should be linked.
- I would add the list of Somerset SSSIs to 'See also'.
- Another first rate list. Dudley Miles (talk) 18:06, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comments. I think they are dealt with apart from the issue with Uphill Hill and Walborough Common on which I would welcome your thoughts.— Rod talk 18:43, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- Support. Dudley Miles (talk) 21:31, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- Comments from Jakec
- "A 36.97 hectares (91.4 acres) reservoir"...should be "36.97-hectare (91.4-acre) reservoir". Use the adj=on parameter in the convert template.
Also in the Chard Reservoir section, three consecutive sentences begin with "it". Perhaps rephrase and/or merge a couple of the shorter sentences?There should be a comma after "Following the route of the Cheddar Valley Line" and also "Alongside the River Tone""Woodland and grassland support a range of bird species" isn't grammatically correct; should be "supporting" or "that supports"."The grassy plateau of the hill fort is owned and managed by Yatton and Congresbury Parish Councils." should be referenced.About half of the Berrow Dunes section is unreferenced.Last sentence of the Street Heath section needs a period.- "There are a variety of birds, bats, reptiles and invertebrates." - try maybe adding an "also".
I notice that four entries don't have articles of their own. Can this be rectified?- Ref 6 is dead
Ref 14 appears to come from Geocities. Is it an RS?- Ref 20 looks like a personal site. Is it an RS?
An interesting list, and I look forward to supporting once these are addressed. Would you by any chance have time to review Wikipedia:Featured_list_candidates/List_of_tributaries_of_Shamokin_Creek/archive1? --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 14:13, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comments. I will try to take a look at Shamokin Creek.— Rod talk 18:45, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
- Support by the looks of it, the previous reviewers have covered everything; I can't find anything to fault. This has also reminded me that I still owe you a photo for Silk Mills, I'll jot that down! Harrias talk 10:55, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
List of UK Album Downloads Chart number ones of the 2000s[edit]
- Nominator(s): A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 15:46, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
I have been improving this article over the past couple of weeks, and feel that it is now ready for FLC. It's inspired heavily by the equivalent singles list, which was promoted to FL back in November 2013. I welcome any ways in which it might be improved. Thanks very much! A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 15:46, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
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Hello! This looks like a very great list. Just a few comments (feel free to discuss these with me)
- "The most successful artist of the decade was…22 weeks at number one with nine different albums." If possible, could this be sourced? Unless you think it's unnecessary per WP:LEADCITE, I would cite them.
- I can't find any source that states this explicitly, but each individual week can be cited from the Official Charts Company. My thinking was based on WP:CALC, which says that routine calculations (such as adding up all the weeks that an album was at number one) don't count as original research. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:55, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- "As of February 2015, the UK Album Download Chart continues to be published each week by the OCC." Why is this relevant to this article?
- I dunno, it just seemed that, since I've devoted so much of the lead to discuss how and why the chart was founded, it might be relevant to discuss whether it's still being compiled today. If you think it's out of place, I'll remove it. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:55, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- Should the "by artist" and "by record label" sections be cited?
- Same kind of argument as above (i.e. WP:CALC). They just felt like the sorts of things that a person could reasonably expect to want to know from reading this article. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:55, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
@A Thousand Doors: This is a nicely compiled list. Once again, you can discuss any of these with me that you want. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 22:00, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot for the review, Johanna! A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:55, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
List of ant subfamilies[edit]
The ants are back. This list was previously nominated in July last year. It failed mostly because there was not enough of a consensus after more than two months, and it must be mentioned that a delegate and another editor were not comfortable with having a FLC based to such a large extent on open content (Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License; please see the first nom for details). The list looks very much the same, but has been updated. jonkerz ♠talk 20:27, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Support I still retain my support from the previous nomination and everything is up to date, especially with the genera. I do have one question though - If ants that lack a metapleural gland are excluded from Formicidae, wouldn't ants such as Camponotus and Polyrhachis be excluded as well, or is this statement only discussing Armaniinae ants? In regards to the issue of using open content, I do not find it really concerning if it's from a free source that allows its redistribution. Burklemore1 (talk) 03:47, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
- It is only required to have evolved in a common ancestor (snakes and whales are both "four-footed", heh). I've tweaked the sentence slightly.
- Makes sense, your changes look good. Burklemore1 (talk) 00:38, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Comments - supported last time, just a few small comments before I support again:
- "but overturn others — and suggest" - this shoudl either be an unspaced mdash or a spaced ndash, but not the current spaced mdash.
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- " the most recently discovered subfamily.[4][1]" - reverse the order of the refs
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- "All were placed in the single genus Formica..." - this sentence runs on and on with commas- rework or (better yet) split into two sentences.
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- A little out of bounds for this nomination, but it's odd that this list says that Armaniinae is a subfamily that's sometimes the family Armaniidae but there's evidence that contradicts that, but when you click through to Armaniinae it redirects to Armaniidae and says that the consensus is that interpretation. (Then the Genera and species section reverses that again.) Seems like the two should match. --PresN 00:10, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
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- However, listing the taxa as a subfamily in this list (along with the note explaining the situation) is imo better than excluding it, because a) AntCat is an authoritative source for ant taxonomy; cherry picking could constitute original research, and b) classifications change all the time, when AntCat updates their catalog, I'll update this article.
Support - happy to support again! --PresN 16:46, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
Comments by Dudley
- The first paragraph is largely quotation of the source. I see you mention its licensing terms at the end of the references, but does this allow quotation without inline attribution NIkkimaria? Dudley Miles (talk) 13:07, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
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- "In Bayesian analyses of multi-gene data sets Leptanillinae is sister to all other ants, while the poneroids form a clade that is sister to the formicoids, but this result appears to be confounded by data artifacts." I had to read this sentence several times and I am still not sure I understand it. Does it mean that the Leptanillinae are one clade which is sister to another unnamed clade of the poneroids and the formicoids? What are data artifacts? Presumably the relationships of the Martialinae are unknown?
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- I would prefer a bit less on the history of classification and some information on the history of ant's evolution. When did they first appear? When did they radiate to their current large number of species? How were they affected by the end-Cretaceous extinction?
- What does dorylomorph mean? Can it be linked?
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- "predominantly aboreal ants" Do you mean arboreal? Dudley Miles (talk) 13:07, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
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- Thanks for the review, Dudley Miles. I've addressed some of the concerns, more to come.
Comment on images: While I support the list to be promoted, I'll initiate an image review so we can confirm the images are fine to use. Burklemore1 (talk) 13:02, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Almost all images provided are from AntWeb, which allows the redistribution of the photos. All are appropriately licensed and linked.
- File:A_Formica_rufa_sideview.jpg and File:Titanomyrma gigantea 01.jpg are not from AntWeb, but the original uploaders provided appropriate licensing for their distribution. The Formica rufa image is also captioned properly.
- File:Sphecomyrma_freyi_worker_no_1_holotype_(Wilson,_Carpenter_and_Brown_1967).jpg Needs confirmation if this image can actually be redistributed, although the image is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported. Burklemore1 (talk) 13:02, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
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- Thank you for the image review, Burklemore1. I'll ask the people on Commons.
- Link: commons:Commons:Village pump/Copyright#Public domain photo used in a Featured List Candidate
- Okay, I have looked at the link and saw the image is in public domain instead? If so, then this image review is in order with no problems. Burklemore1 (talk) 05:26, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- Looking at the recent changes, all images have been checked and can be used in the article. Burklemore1 (talk) 15:05, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for catching this!
- No worries, best of luck on promoting the list! This time it seems to be going much smoother. Burklemore1 (talk) 05:16, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for catching this!
- Looking at the recent changes, all images have been checked and can be used in the article. Burklemore1 (talk) 15:05, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
- Okay, I have looked at the link and saw the image is in public domain instead? If so, then this image review is in order with no problems. Burklemore1 (talk) 05:26, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
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List of international goals scored by Thierry Henry[edit]
- Nominator(s): The Rambling Man (talk) 21:17, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
Wayne Rooney and Bobby Charlton are getting their highlights highlighted here, so why not good old Terry Henry? An absolute legend of French football, top scorer and second-highest appearances, this geezer needs to be recognised for his international goal-scoring prowess. Hence the list. Thanks, as ever, to those who contribute to the process. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:17, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
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- The caption doesn't need the word "has", given that he's never going to score any more
- "He surpassed the previous record, held by Michel Platini" - I would make 100% clear that this is the goalscoring record, as the most recent stat mentioned was his number of caps
- "He has scored more times against Malta" => "He scored more times against Malta"
- "More than half of Henry's goals have come" => "More than half of Henry's goals came"
- "More than half of Henry's goals have come in home matches, having scored 31 of his 51 goals in France" - the grammar is a bit mangled here, the subject of the sentence is his goals, so "having scored" isn't correct. I would suggest (also taking into account my last point ;-)) "More than half of Henry's goals came in home matches, 31 of his 51 goals being scored in France"
- "The majority of Henry's goals, sixteen, have come" => "The majority of Henry's goals, sixteen, came
- "Four goals in the 2003 FIFA Confederations Cup saw Henry" - goals can't see. I would suggest "A tally of four goals in the 2003 FIFA Confederations Cup made Henry the tournament's top scorer and led to his being voted the "tournament's most outstanding player".
- Nowhere do you explain what the score column means, or the significance of the bolding therein. I understand it, but others might not......
- Hope this helps -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:45, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- Indeed, thanks for those comments, each of which I have hopefully addressed to your satisfaction. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:57, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- Support - all looks good now -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:27, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
- Consider having a stats table with "by competition" as at List_of_international_goals_scored_by_Wayne_Rooney. Nergaal (talk) 18:20, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
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- The intro seems fine, but it feels like it is missing mentioning his last international goal in 2009. Also, this might be trivia-ish, but he seems to have scored only once when France lost. Nergaal (talk) 23:02, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- Addressed the first of your comments, the second I don't find particularly helpful since France were at their best during the time he played for them, so it would be seen as to attribute too much of that success to Henry himself to frame it that way. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:26, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- That could be the case. Just noticed that 123 and 51 do not have actual references. I am sure there is some FIFA website referencing the totals. Nergaal (talk) 19:42, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- Ref 3. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:01, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- That could be the case. Just noticed that 123 and 51 do not have actual references. I am sure there is some FIFA website referencing the totals. Nergaal (talk) 19:42, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- Addressed the first of your comments, the second I don't find particularly helpful since France were at their best during the time he played for them, so it would be seen as to attribute too much of that success to Henry himself to frame it that way. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:26, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- The intro seems fine, but it feels like it is missing mentioning his last international goal in 2009. Also, this might be trivia-ish, but he seems to have scored only once when France lost. Nergaal (talk) 23:02, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
- ref 9 and 38 are missing dates and 42 seems to need "work=AFP". Nergaal (talk) 15:02, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- ref 9 has no explicit publication date that I can see, other two addressed. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:04, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
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- Can you please do me a favor and merge (use row-width=) the rows with multiple goals per game as was done in List of international goals scored by Bobby Charlton? Nergaal (talk) 19:04, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- No, there's little point as the row merges disappear once the table is sorted in any case. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:08, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- The point is that it looks much better/cleaner. Nergaal (talk) 22:58, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- I understand what you think to be the point. I disagree. This isn't a process where I have to follow every single one of your aesthetic suggestions, thank you. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:23, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
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- I've done nothing other than to say thank you but I disagree and that I won't be taking up every single personal aesthetic preference of your's. I think our positions are clear, thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:32, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- And here I was thinking that me choosing to be pleasant and constructive to you would generate the same type of attitude from you. Nergaal (talk) 18:27, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
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- I understand what you think to be the point. I disagree. This isn't a process where I have to follow every single one of your aesthetic suggestions, thank you. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:23, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- The point is that it looks much better/cleaner. Nergaal (talk) 22:58, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- No, there's little point as the row merges disappear once the table is sorted in any case. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:08, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- Can you please do me a favor and merge (use row-width=) the rows with multiple goals per game as was done in List of international goals scored by Bobby Charlton? Nergaal (talk) 19:04, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- The link has "Last updated: 27/06/2012 11:57 CET" which seemed to me to be the date, but I might be wrong. Spot-checking other refs seemed to be fine to me so support for FL. Nergaal (talk) 18:58, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
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- Support Happy to support this now. Mattythewhite (talk) 20:21, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
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- Support – Certainly not my area of expertise but looks good. —Vensatry (ping) 14:37, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
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Otherwise, everything looks good. Fancy taking a look at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/England cricket team Test results (1877–1914)/archive1 if you get a chance? Harrias talk 12:39, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
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List of international goals scored by Miroslav Klose[edit]
Miroslav Klose, who crossed the Iron Curtain knowing only two words of German, is an unlikely legend of international football, even if his name does not conjure up as much romanticism as those of Pelé and Puskás. He scored on his debut in 2001 and ended his career on the biggest high imaginable, winning the World Cup. He is the top scorer of all time for one of the elite nations in world football, and the top scorer of all time in the World Cup, the most-watched single-sport event on the planet. Naturally, much has been written specifically on his goalscoring exploits rather than his career as a whole, thus this list is a topic of public interest. '''tAD''' (talk) 15:20, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- this needs a longer intro and a statistics section (i.e. goals per competitions and g# of games). Nergaal (talk) 18:17, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- No, the lead is fine; a summary of goals and appearances per years seems to be what Nergaal is attempting to request. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:33, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- The Rambling Man I think Nergaal may be asking for analysis of goals per competition or most common opponent against whom he scored, like you have on Rooney and Henry. I can put that in too. '''tAD''' (talk) 20:05, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- The lead should at least briefly summarize the history section, like pointing out say when he became the top goalscorer, when he scored hatricks, most common opponent scored against, when he helped Germany win Euros and WCs, etc. I also think a small table summarizing how many goals per type of competition would be informative (how many WC, WC quals, Euro, Euro quals, friendlies). Also, his name should be linked in the intro. Nergaal (talk) 17:43, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Comments - as this has stagnated...
- Perhaps Nergaal just wants the summary section merged in with the lead, as per Rooney and Charlton. TBH, don't care if it's clumped together or not.
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championBrazil's Rivaldo and behind Ronaldo" - I'd wikilink brace for the benefit of readers
- "On 10 September 2008, in 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification", how about 'during the 2010 World Cup qualifcation stage'?
- "in an 8–0 opening rout of Saudi Arabia at the Sapporo Dome", vague. Does this mean Germany's opening game of the campaign, if so state it succinctly.
- "Klose added two more goals in German's victory" Germany's
- "taking him to 16 World Cup goals, surpassing Ronaldo as the tournament's record goalscorer" → "taking him to 16 World Cup goals and surpassing Ronaldo as the tournament's record goalscorer"
- Ref 6, 7, 8, 9 should be BBC Sport
- Wikilink CNN on Ref 26, not 27
- Fix dashes on Refs 25 and 33. Lemonade51 (talk) 16:56, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- @The Almightey Drill: Are you still monitoring this? Harrias talk 10:31, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- Harrias I executed Lemonade's suggestions, I await the next step '''tAD''' (talk) 14:20, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
List of Washington Metro stations[edit]
- Nominator(s): Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:33, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Through the efforts of myself and other editors, this list as been completely redone since the 2011 removal. Station and system ridership data is now current; line ridership data isn't available past 2010, but it's not nearly as important as the stations themselves. All citations are checked and live, unnecessary station codes removed, and {{dagger}} and {{N/A}} used for accessibility. I believe this is back up to FL quality. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:33, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
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- @Golbez: Please leave a more substantive review, or else your support may be discounted- bare supports look like the reviewer only briefly looked at the list. Very few nominations truly have no issues at all, and this is not one of them- a brief check showed that the Rail Connections column is sorting strangely (N/A is sorting under N). --PresN 19:37, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
List of Gloucestershire County Cricket Club grounds[edit]
- Nominator(s): AssociateAffiliate, ChrisTheDude
AssociateAffiliate started this article and created the table, I have added an extensive lead and generally tweaked it a bit, and now feel it meets the FL requirements. It follows the same format as three similar lists which have been recently promoted to FL, and all feedback from those FLCs has been incorporated into this article too..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:12, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
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Lead image needs alt text. In other images, alt text should simply name the ground.- Done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:33, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
In the table, you could add the actual dates instead of "no other matches to date".- The previous three such articles I've got to FL status all used this format, I'd rather stay consistent.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:54, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
The footnotes are unsourced.- Done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:40, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Done -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:40, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
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Comments from Relentlessly
- "Gloucestershire County Cricket Club is one of the 18 member clubs of the English County Championship, representing the historic county of Gloucestershire." Two separate things there. How about "Gloucestershire County Cricket Club is one of the 18 member clubs of the English County Championship. It represents the historic county of Gloucestershire."
- Altered, although in a different way to how you suggested to avoid too many short sentences. What do you think.....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:54, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
- "It has since played host to first-class cricket from 1870, List A cricket from 1963 and Twenty20 cricket from 2003." Clubs don't "play host". They "play".
- Altered -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:54, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
- "The club's debut home match" Journalese. "The club's first home match" is better.
- Altered -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:01, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
- "Bristol has been considered an independent county since 1373, though it was officially part of the county of Avon from 1974 until 1996.[9] Somerset have played first-class matches at other venues in the city." These are odd sentences, coming right at the end of a totally unrelated paragraph. They need to stand alone or move somewhere else.
- Not really unrelated, as it comes right after extensive stuff about the club playing at Bristol and clarifies that Bristol isn't technically in Gloucestershire. I think it is relevant at that point.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:00, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
- "before its use was discontinued in 1992." You mean "until".
- Altered -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:00, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
- I find it odd that our article is at Trowbridge Cricket Club Ground but you call the ground "County Ground".
- Cricket Archive calls it the County Ground, as does The Cricketer magazine and, most tellingly, Trowbridge Cricket Club themselves. I think this article is right and the article on the ground is titled wrongly -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:58, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Generally this looks good, though. Relentlessly (talk) 14:31, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
- Images review
- Durdham Down (750px).jpg, captioned with alt text, appropriately licensed on Commons
- Clifton College - geograph.org.uk - 147399.jpg, captioned with alt text, appropriately licensed on Commons
- Gymnasium and cricket field, Cheltenham College - geograph.org.uk - 194667.jpg, captioned with alt text, appropriately licensed on Commons
- Bristol County Ground.jpg, captioned with alt text, appropriately licensed on Commons
- Swindon Cricket Club.jpg, captioned with alt text, appropriately licensed on Commons
- Trowbridge Cricket Club - geograph.org.uk - 556029.jpg, captioned with alt text, appropriately licensed on Commons
- Buildings in the images are covered by Commons:Freedom of panorama United Kingdom
- Support - If this review was helpful, please consider optionally reviewing my List of Alamo defenders — Maile (talk) 18:58, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
- Support – nothing to fault in this, meets all the criteria, nice work. Harrias talk 10:29, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
NWA World Welterweight Championship[edit]
I am nominating this for featured list as the third part of a wrestling trilogy of FLs that already has the NWA World Light Heavyweight Championship and NWA World Middleweight Championship. This article has incorporated everything I learned from the other two FLs (and others) and is a Feature List quality article. MPJ-US 23:37, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
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- Box looks fine.--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- "The Championship was inactive until just over a year later when the championship was used by Toryumon, making Dragon Kid became the first Toryumon-promoted champion it." to "The Championship was inactive until over a year later when Dragon Kid was made the first Toryumon-promoted champion."--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- Done, good suggestion.
- "On June 22, 2011 Cassandro" - needs a comma.--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- Done
- "Karloff Lagarde and Américo Rocca" - infobox gives the latter two names--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- Good catch.
- Infobox says Great Sasuke has a one day reign as well--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- I am not sure why Sasuke was in the info box, removed and back to two.
- Title history
- Sorting checks out--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- I commend you on showing when it was in which promotion and part of the J-Crown. Good idea.--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- There isn't an indication next to the current champion to show the reign is changing daily. Possibly use the cross symbol.--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- Done and "+" symbol added to the legend at the top.
- There is a link to vacant in the terms article on english pedia now.--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- There is? Vacant and Vacated went to something not relevant to championships?
- Glossary_of_professional_wrestling_terms#V--WillC 14:51, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- There is? Vacant and Vacated went to something not relevant to championships?
- Reigns by combined length
- Footnotes
- Coding works fine, they make sense.--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- Source for note 3 please.--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- Sourced Mephisto's weight and threw in the ref from his title win in the table after the note. Cannot put a citation inside the note, I tried but this should work?
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- Should make a external links section with the nwa website. Why isn't this included in the NWA template?--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- I took some relevant external links off the NWA Article.
- They were not in the NWA template because I did not pay attention to non-CMLL title articles. Listed now.
- Sources check out as reliable.--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- Should make a external links section with the nwa website. Why isn't this included in the NWA template?--WillC 02:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
I must have forgot. Support --WillC 17:23, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
List of international cricket five-wicket hauls at M. A. Chidambaram Stadium[edit]
- Nominator(s): — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 11:55, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Yet another cricket list. This is my first attempt at a cricket-related article. Constructive comments are most welcome. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 11:55, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
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- Support – nice work. Fancy taking a look at one for me? (Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/England cricket team Test results (1877–1914)/archive1) Harrias talk 12:35, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Harrias: Thanks for the support and for the offer, Harrias. I'm currently abstaining from reviewing anything (GAN, PR, FAC and FLC) at the moment (studies being a factor). Best of luck with your FLC though!
— Ssven2 Speak 2 me 12:47, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
@Vensatry and The Rambling Man: You two closed your comments a while back; are you willing to support? --PresN 14:42, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think it's mandatory to offer "supports" as a part of the review, isn't it? —Vensatry (ping) 08:38, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
List of international cricket centuries by Ian Bell[edit]
- Nominator(s): Ytfc23 (talk) and The Rambling Man (talk) 18:36, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Another cricket-related list, Ian Bell is one of only two English cricketers since the Second World War to have won five Ashes series and this list details his 26 international centuries. The list resembles a similar style to numerous other list of centuries by international cricketers, I would like to thank The Rambling Man for the help in tidying up the list and its a pleasure to co-nominate this list, and look forward to all the helpful comments on how to improve the list. Ytfc23 (talk) 18:36, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
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- Support entry #17 is still irritatingly on two lines on my screen, even though I have quite a large screen, but I don't have any significant objections, nice work, both. Harrias talk 10:50, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
@Vensatry: you closed your comments here a while back; are you willing to support? --PresN 14:40, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Nominations for removal[edit]
Clint Eastwood filmography[edit]
I am nominating this for featured list removal because there are not nearly enough in-text citations to be up to par with FL requirements. There are only 9 total, and much more would be needed for a list containing dozens of works and any accolades received. The lead also needs work; things like "the eight-season" and "He has starred in western, action, comedy, and drama films" simply are unnecessary and don't really read well. Additionally, details on whether he was a lead or secondary role within films are better suited for their respective articles rather than here. Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:57, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- Delist – There are so many problems in this list and it does not pass FLC most surely. Coupled with the fact that FLC standards are so high nowadays, this definitely does not cut it. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 15:14, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- Delist – The whole table is unsourced and don't have a sort. The lead also needs some real work and the note section seems redundant. Yashthepunisher (talk) 07:14, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- Note – I would like to work on it in coming weeks. Please don't close it before that. -- Frankie talk 19:17, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Arnold Schwarzenegger filmography[edit]
I am nominating this for featured list removal because it is not well-referenced enough to meet today's FL standards. The vast majority of roles listed here and the accolades are missing sources. Having a total of 12 in-text citations is quite problematic given how many films are mentioned. I'm also not sure if it's really necessary to include color coding for lead roles or have prose bits within the "Television appearances" section. Snuggums (talk / edits) 03:23, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- I really don't think this could be a problem, as the General General has all movies covered.--Jarodalien (talk) 07:51, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
List of major opera composers[edit]
- Notified: Adam Cuerden, WikiProject Composers, WikiProject Opera
While reading some FL-related talk pages, I came across a link to the old FLC task force, where I found this list. It fails to meet the modern FL criteria in many ways:
- The lead is very short and it seems designed to make the reader go to other articles for background that may provide added context, instead of attempting to briefly summarize the background as a newer FL would. I'd expect a lead of three paragraphs or so for such a significant topic.
- The introduction isn't much better than the "This is a list of ..." openings that have gone out of favor.
- It doesn't appear that all of the content in the composer notes is cited. Often, there are cites in the note, but not at the end; it therefore becomes hard to determine if the cites are meant to apply to the content, or whether it was added after the fact.
- In particular, none of the notes in the Female opera composers section appear to be sourced.
- I'm unsure whether the method of determining consensus for inclusion by checking 10 major sources holds up to modern standards. For one thing, have there been any major opera history books published that deserve to be included in what the article calls the "sample" of sources considered? Giants2008 (Talk) 00:17, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- Delist - I would agree that this should be de-featured unless anyone wants to extensively rewrite it. The crux is the absence of any clear deinition of 'major', together with some confusion as to whether we are considering major operas or major composers. In addition to the points made by Giants2008, I note (amongst many other issues): John Gay is not a composer, and Pepusch a very minor figure (if Gay and Pepusch why not, e.g. Gilbert and Sullivan?); what is the point of specifiying a Mozart extract as being 6 mins. 49 secs., which could suggest to the uninformed that this is its authorized duration?; why Gershwin, Schreker and Pfitzner?; no male born after 1950; female composers listed very doubtfully qualify as 'major' composers, I'm afraid - perhaps better separate lists of male and female composers? The whole thing needs a complete rethink. --Smerus (talk) 08:09, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- Delist the lead is full of inappropriate tone AND too short, and the article is underreferenced Snuggums (talk / edits) 14:45, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
Death Cab for Cutie discography[edit]
Nominating this FL for removal due to the large amount of references lacking in specific areas. Seems to be a victim of not keeping up with rising standards since its promotion back in 2008. I've applied reference tags where necessary, but to sum up:
- None of the release dates in the article provide citations.
- 1 digital album is unsourced.
- 5 extended plays are unsourced.
- 1 digital extended play is unsourced.
- 22 singles do not provide citation to prove they are singles.
- 1 video album is unsourced.
- All 16 music videos are unsourced.
- 15 other appearances are unsourced.
Was unsure who to notify, as the main contributors all stopped maintaining the article as late as 2011. Azealia911 talk 20:08, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
- Delist per extensive referencing concerns Snuggums (talk / edits) 21:34, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- Delist - This is no where near the quality required to be featured. MaranoFan (talk) 07:55, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
Ronald Reagan filmography[edit]
I think this looks like being a victim of the rise in standards over the years. We insist on having citations for the tables now - and neither the film or televison table is supported by reliable sources. - SchroCat (talk) 11:09, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
- Delist too many unsourced roles. The "entertainment career" section is also unnecessary and contains needless details. Snuggums (talk / edits) 21:31, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
- ^ Rogovin 2009, p. 175.