Talk:Radar Online: Difference between revisions
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Bottom line: No responsible, accredited journalistic body would ever call this a magazine. It's a gossip website, no different from PerezHilton.com except with a larger staff. I believe that because of these reasons, the magazine-project template is inappropriate. --[[User:Tenebrae|Tenebrae]] ([[User talk:Tenebrae|talk]]) 17:04, 3 March 2012 (UTC) |
Bottom line: No responsible, accredited journalistic body would ever call this a magazine. It's a gossip website, no different from PerezHilton.com except with a larger staff. I believe that because of these reasons, the magazine-project template is inappropriate. --[[User:Tenebrae|Tenebrae]] ([[User talk:Tenebrae|talk]]) 17:04, 3 March 2012 (UTC) |
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{{movereq|Radar Online|Recently moved from [[RadarOnline]] as "uncontroversial". However, I'd challenge that; every instance cited where ".com" is used as in an article's title ([[Amazon.com]], [[TMZ.com]], [[Salon.com]]) is one where disambiguation is required. Not the case here. Also note that most pages in [[:Category:American online magazines]] do not have the .com URL suffix included. Rather than requesting restoring it to its original location, I'm suggesting moving it to a title with a space between the two words; that's how most third-party sources seem to refer to it.}} |
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[[:RadarOnline.com]] → [[Radar Online]] — Recently moved from [[RadarOnline]] as "uncontroversial". However, I'd challenge that; every instance cited where ".com" is used as in an article's title ([[Amazon.com]], [[TMZ.com]], [[Salon.com]]) is one where disambiguation is required. Not the case here. Also note that most pages in [[:Category:American online magazines]] do not have the .com URL suffix included. Rather than requesting restoring it to its original location, I'm suggesting moving it to a title with a space between the two words; that's how most third-party sources seem to refer to it. [[User:DeLarge|DeLarge]] ([[User talk:DeLarge|talk]]) 22:58, 7 March 2012 (UTC) |
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Puffery
These edits by an anon introduced some useful new information but did so in a generally unencylopedic tone -- more like a press release. I suspect WP:COI edits. (As of this writing the anon account has done nothing except edit this article.) The article needs cleanup. JamesMLane t c 02:42, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Status as a publication
There is still a www.radar.com website, but is it a blog, or what? And how reliable is it as a news source, or specifically as a source of university ratings? --Uncle Ed (talk) 04:41, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
- Who knows? This article has www.radaronline.com as the old website for the magazine. Whatever is there now is something different from the second iteration of the magazine, which shut down in 2008 and sold its websites to American Media (publisher), publisher of the National Enquirer, Star, and other tabloids. GRBerry 02:06, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
- There should obviously be a separate Wiki article for RadarOnline, as it is now a major website in its own right (so much so that the National Enquirer's editor-in-chief stepped down to focus solely on Radar Online). [1]
- Observe its recent spike in web traffic rankings. [2]
Not a magazine
It's a celebrity gossip website that incidentally has some news, but virtually everything in it is anonymous "insider sources" and these types of cite regularly pay people to speak with them. That immediately takes it out of the realm of journalism — because if you're paying somebody to say something to you anonymously, people will say anything and just make up plausible-sounding stuff that would be hard to disprove.
Bottom line: No responsible, accredited journalistic body would ever call this a magazine. It's a gossip website, no different from PerezHilton.com except with a larger staff. I believe that because of these reasons, the magazine-project template is inappropriate. --Tenebrae (talk) 17:04, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Requested move
The request to rename this article to Radar Online has been carried out.
If the page title has consensus, be sure to close this discussion using {{subst:RM top|'''page moved'''.}} and {{subst:RM bottom}} and remove the {{Requested move/dated|…}} tag, or replace it with the {{subst:Requested move/end|…}} tag. |
RadarOnline.com → Radar Online — Recently moved from RadarOnline as "uncontroversial". However, I'd challenge that; every instance cited where ".com" is used as in an article's title (Amazon.com, TMZ.com, Salon.com) is one where disambiguation is required. Not the case here. Also note that most pages in Category:American online magazines do not have the .com URL suffix included. Rather than requesting restoring it to its original location, I'm suggesting moving it to a title with a space between the two words; that's how most third-party sources seem to refer to it. DeLarge (talk) 22:58, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Survey
- Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with
*'''Support'''
or*'''Oppose'''
, then sign your comment with~~~~
. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
Discussion
- Any additional comments: