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Hi. Regarding this remark [1], note that "Yakut, a twelfth-century Arab geographer, says that the inhabitants of Mogadishu were 'Berbers, of a colour between that of the Abyssinians and the Negroes" (c.f. [2]). That is, he is talking about skin tone, not physical features. The Arab geographers actually all physically and culturally distinguished the Berbers from the Zanj ("This distribution gleaned from oral tradition is supported by the descriptions of the early Arab geographers who refer to the Hamitic peoples (the Galla and Somali) of the north and centre by the classical name 'Berberi', and distinguish them in physical features and culture from the Zanj to their south" [3]). Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 22:49, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

The main point is that he said that Berbers of north Afirca are different from black barabira of Somalia, so why are you relating Berbers of north africa to a harbor in somalia, its misinformation isn't it ?

Yaqut doesn't mention the Maghreb in this particular passage in the original document. As the quotes/links above show, he contrasted the skin tone of these Berbers with that of their immediate neighbours, the Abyssinians and the "Negroes" (Zanj). On a similar note, the older Greek document the Periplus of the Erythraean Sea refers to many peoples in both the Horn and North Africa as "Berbers" [4]:

"Barbaria, incidentally, refers presumably to the Berbers, who at that date still spread right across North Africa. The name survives in the modern Somali port of Berbera, and the Periplus writer states that "On the right-hand coast next below Berenice is the country of the Berbers," also locating them farther down the coast — this whole region being subject to one "Zoscales; who is miserly in his ways and always striving for more, but otherwise upright and acquainted with Greek literature." This "Zoscales" has been identified with Za Hakale, an Abyssinian monarch of the first century A.D. The prefix Za here is the honorific appropriate to Abyssinian kings, giving way in the third century to El, "indicating perhaps a change of dynasty from the Habash stock to the Sabaean," says Schoff."

By the way, you should try some time taking a look at the distribution of the E1b1b paternal haplogroup if you think that there's no connection between these two groups of Afro-Asiatic-speaking "Berbers". Middayexpress (talk) 16:09, 7 March 2013 (UTC)