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Are you out of this world? Do you know e.g. what "Thessaloniki" means? "Niki" (victory) over "Thessalon" (Thessalians). It's a name written and referenced for thousands of years now and you're saying that the "original" "macedonian" name is "Solun"? Keep propaganda out of Wikipedia!

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future. . You have been blocked for 36 hours. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 22:31, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edessa

Hi, do you know that Edessa was called Edessa in ancient Macedonian times (and unlike Skopje, Edessa was part of the original kingdom)? The ancient Macedonians even founded a city with the same name in Mesopotamia, see Edessa, Mesopotamia. The name has Illyrian origins and means "the city over water" and that the Slavic "Voden" derives from the Slavic word "voda", which means water, thus is a translation of Edessa. Why do you now claim that the original name, since ancient Macedonian times is a "new Greek changed name"? Are you suggesting that the ancient Macedonians called it "Voden", because that's not true. Telex 21:00, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

3RR

You are close to violating the 3RR on Vergina Sun. I don't need to explain what 3RR is since you've already been blocked for this before. Let's avoid this happening again. --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 22:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the three-revert rule. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future. As this is your fifth offense, you have been blocked for 4 days. If you do not stop violating the 3RR then blocks may become even longer. --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 07:21, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

HI

hi my friend, i know its a sad thing for macedonia and us macedonians, but its true :( not only did they requested the exclusive rights to the vergina emblem, but they got them also, wether we believe it or not, they did. only based on the fact that such an emblem was found on (modern) Greek soil, soil wich they conquered. such emblems are also found on modern day republic of Macedonia's soil, so we have and historically and archeologically the same and even more rights to get the exclusive rights of that symbol, than the greeks. but well, this is just a simple example of how unfair this world is, and how big the greek lobby is in this unfair world.

but its our fault too, we or better said 'our government' should never had to give up our flag, no matter what, that was a big big mistake. also our country should have put more effort in trying to confirm the rights of that emblem as macedonian, instead of the greeks, but well as the "stari" in our country say: "Eto, to ti e makedonceto"

greetings from a fellow macedonian, and keep up the good work you are doing on wikipedia regarding our nation.

ps. ive added some extra sources on the Ancient Macedonians page, but i am afraid the "Greeks" or "philhellens" on wikipedia will rv or delete it soon, so i would like you to take a look and help/contribute to it.

--Makedonia 17:34, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Zdravo macedonia,

te molam ako imas vreme i ako sakas, pomozi me na Stan Lazaridis toj e makedonec fudbaler od australija, jasno e deka e makedonec i deka toj samiot e svesen deka e makedonec, no ovie grci na wiki (kako normalno) odma idat so propaganda i go pravet Grk, a duri idat so 5 grcki useri taka da moram da imam i jas nekoja potpora. te molam i pozdrav! --Makedonia 19:58, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Policy violation

Hi, your userpage violates WP:USER. Please read the guidelines and make the necessary changes. I point you specifically at: "What can I not have on my user page?".

I am giving you a chance to bring the page inline with policy before I delete it. Regards, - FrancisTyers 23:18, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Macedonia. I would like to reccomend you to that you to do what Francis says. While it may seem autocratic, we recently had a case on the Macedonian language edition of Wikipedia where a Greek user made a provocative user page, which caused really bad blood, and it really made me think. I'm a supporter of freedom of speech, however, it would be advisable to keep our political views outside Wikipedia - here's my original statement about this matter:

I consider myself to be quite liberal when it comes to freedom of speech, and I almost never delete inflamatory discussions and PA's. Recently, I've been criticized as being even too soft, and this really made me rethink my approach. User pages are really not a good place to express controversial political or eth(n)ical beliefs, or even political beliefs in general. This is covered under en:WP:USER, but I think that too little explanation is given why we shouldn't put some stuff in our user pages, so users usually misinterptet this policy as restrictive. We are supposed to be neutral, or try to be as neutral as possible (given the fact that we bear or POVs unconciously), so overstressing our (political, religious, moral) POVs, is, in a way, contrary to the efforts of this project to be as neutral as possible. Provocative opinions are even more harmful: they harness the collaborative nature of the project, and create barriers between users. The bottom line is: We are not here to advertise our POVs, but to try to be neutral. --FlavrSavr 08:04, 1 Јуни 2006 (UTC)

You should also be informed that a similar effort is taken to make Greek user pages more moderate (for example, Vergina's, and Asteraki's page), so it's really a community attempt to leave over-politicized themes to another place. I hope you agree. --FlavrSavr 10:31, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken the obligation to convince the Macedonians to make their user pages more compatible to the WP:USER policy, otherwise, I'll be forced to blank your page. You can restore it at any time, I hope you'll make an effort to make it more adequate to Wikipedia policies. If you have any complaints, questions or similar please address them here. --FlavrSavr 10:31, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. We can make a List of Slavic names of Greek towns and villages, instead of keeping it to your page. Regards. --FlavrSavr 10:31, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This user was given adequate time to respond, and has not, so I've blanked it. I've had enough waiting. --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 10:34, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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	P.S. We can make a [[List of Slavic names of Greek towns and villages]], instead of keeping it to your page. Regards. --[[User:FlavrSavr\|FlavrSavr]] 10:31, 2 June 2006 (UTC)		P.S. We can make a [[List of Slavic names of Greek towns and villages]], instead of keeping it to your page. Regards. --[[User:FlavrSavr\|FlavrSavr]] 10:31, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

			:This user was given adequate time to respond, and has not, so I've blanked it. I've had enough waiting. --[[User:Deskana\|Lord Deskana]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Deskana\|Dark Lord of the Sith]]</sup> 10:34, 2 June 2006 (UTC)