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If you felt it was a personal attack, sorry for that. However, you are the one who thought a perfect edit was offensive, not considering good faith. You were taking a limited view of things, reporting only the result but not the well-known, verifiable and sourced controversy around it. The way you put it, it was as if Sony decided, free of will, that the control would have no rumble features, however that is not true according to the reliable links we have at our hand. In a previous situation, you felt offended immediately after I wrote a comment [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3APlayStation_3&diff=57879673&oldid=57874483] for which I apologized. However this time you continued discussing and decided to go back later to see what could be considered bad faith. Note that when I felt offended with the way you were indenting the talk, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:PlayStation_3&diff=next&oldid=61621591] not respecting the [[WP:TALK|talk guidelines]], I said that immediately, not after the discussion finished. Removing perfectly verifiable and sourced information just because you don't like speculation downgrades the quality of the article, as it hides facts (the fact that Sony claimed the rumbling affected motion sensors and the fact that Immersion stated that 1. they have won a lawsuit that prevents Sony from using the technology if upheld and 2. they would help Sony to incorporate rumbling without interfering the sensors) from the readers. Remember that you do not [[WP:OWN|own]] the article. As for the [[WP:EQ|etiquette]], could you tell me where you felt I did not respect it? Certainly you did not ''work toward agreement'', but I did not assume bad faith in your behaviour, just pointed out you were coming back again and again to the starting point. Note that [[WP:AGF|good faith]] is not a blanket you can use everytime you feel affected. ''Yelling "Assume Good Faith" at people does not excuse you from explaining your actions, and making a habit of it will convince people that you're acting in bad faith.'' You talked to me four times [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:PlayStation_3&diff=61606718&oldid=61605524] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:PlayStation_3&diff=next&oldid=61612367] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:PlayStation_3&diff=next&oldid=61616082] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:PlayStation_3&diff=next&oldid=61619564] before stating why you did not want that information in the article [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:PlayStation_3&diff=next&oldid=61622340] Had you stated that from the beginning of the thread, you would have prevented misunderstandings. As an advice, next time go directly to the matter and state your point. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 18:05, 2 July 2006 (UTC) |
If you felt it was a personal attack, sorry for that. However, you are the one who thought a perfect edit was offensive, not considering good faith. You were taking a limited view of things, reporting only the result but not the well-known, verifiable and sourced controversy around it. The way you put it, it was as if Sony decided, free of will, that the control would have no rumble features, however that is not true according to the reliable links we have at our hand. In a previous situation, you felt offended immediately after I wrote a comment [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3APlayStation_3&diff=57879673&oldid=57874483] for which I apologized. However this time you continued discussing and decided to go back later to see what could be considered bad faith. Note that when I felt offended with the way you were indenting the talk, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:PlayStation_3&diff=next&oldid=61621591] not respecting the [[WP:TALK|talk guidelines]], I said that immediately, not after the discussion finished. Removing perfectly verifiable and sourced information just because you don't like speculation downgrades the quality of the article, as it hides facts (the fact that Sony claimed the rumbling affected motion sensors and the fact that Immersion stated that 1. they have won a lawsuit that prevents Sony from using the technology if upheld and 2. they would help Sony to incorporate rumbling without interfering the sensors) from the readers. Remember that you do not [[WP:OWN|own]] the article. As for the [[WP:EQ|etiquette]], could you tell me where you felt I did not respect it? Certainly you did not ''work toward agreement'', but I did not assume bad faith in your behaviour, just pointed out you were coming back again and again to the starting point. Note that [[WP:AGF|good faith]] is not a blanket you can use everytime you feel affected. ''Yelling "Assume Good Faith" at people does not excuse you from explaining your actions, and making a habit of it will convince people that you're acting in bad faith.'' You talked to me four times [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:PlayStation_3&diff=61606718&oldid=61605524] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:PlayStation_3&diff=next&oldid=61612367] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:PlayStation_3&diff=next&oldid=61616082] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:PlayStation_3&diff=next&oldid=61619564] before stating why you did not want that information in the article [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:PlayStation_3&diff=next&oldid=61622340] Had you stated that from the beginning of the thread, you would have prevented misunderstandings. As an advice, next time go directly to the matter and state your point. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 18:05, 2 July 2006 (UTC) |
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== Re: English re:PS3 discussion == |
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Please, [[WP:NPA|no personal attacks]]. If you wish not to reply, I have no problems with that. However, personal attacks do not really help. I am guessing you are stressed with the recent vandalism that had happened in the PS3 and Wii articles, that is why I suggest to [[WP:COOL|cool down]] and, if necessary, take a break. I understand about this, I have been [[m:Wikistress|wikistressed]] myself, and realized that taking a break really helps. Sorry for the misunderstandings, but know that attacking isn't the solution. -- [[User:ReyBrujo|ReyBrujo]] 18:35, 2 July 2006 (UTC) |
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Featured article project
I would like to nominate Asian arowana for featured article status some time in the near future. I am writing to ask for your help in improving the article in any possible way in preparation for nomination. Thanks! --66.7.182.48 16:44, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- Oh bother, I forgot to log in. That was me, Ginkgo100 talk · contribs 16:45, 29 June 2006 (UTC).
- Hello, got your message - I'm looking at the article and it's good, not sure how or if it could be improved - though personally I'd like to read more about it's habitat (in the wild or with reference to fishkeeping), also a bit technical but a link to an explanation of why the scales are brightly coloured/metallic would be very good. Hope it gets to be a featured article. (Also there is now a Category:Fish of South East Asia which I am currently starting to populate.)HappyVR 01:27, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
PS3
My pleasure. Happy editing. Lectonar 07:15, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
1-pentanol
Unfortunately I dont think I'm gonna get the answer for at least three weeks. It was the big end of semester exam and we should get it back at the start of next semester. And I don't think it was a trick question, it was there for people who finished the exam early. --Tobes (talk) 15:49, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Wii
WELL GUESS WHAT I HAVE IN MY HANDS!!! SI-KIDS AUGUST ISSUE!!! I know, it's weird, I get all of my magazines early. Nintendo Power, Nickelodeon, Si-Kids, and Disney.
- All it says is November 6. And if you google search "Wii November 6", you'll see a bunch of sites that have it as well, althuogh they say it's a rumor, seeing it in si-kids does make it sound more official. and it's weird because it is on a Monday.--Jak 16:22, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
controller
happy please read and discuss your opinions. Dancter, Enlightened, and I (gatoatigrado) want to change it back. please read the discussion and reconsider. I don't want to have an edit war. Thanks.
Wi60
The Wii60 site (wii60.com) kind of showcases the level of fan anger that a significant portion of the community has over Sony's price point, so I think it's worth having in. Legend78
Re: Ps3 controller, and politeness
Nah, I wouldn't say you are a pain to discuss with. For the same reason I would have to apologize for trying to defend a point of view that would, in the end and for me, make the article slightly more complete according to WP:NPOV. I am not sure why you took those comments personally. Note that I have suggested before that we should include both points of view and let the reader make his own conclusions.[1] If we have reliable sources with verifiable information, why hide it? By ommiting both Sony and Immersion comments, you are preventing the casual user from learning something we know that could be included according to Wikipedia guidelines and policies.
If you felt it was a personal attack, sorry for that. However, you are the one who thought a perfect edit was offensive, not considering good faith. You were taking a limited view of things, reporting only the result but not the well-known, verifiable and sourced controversy around it. The way you put it, it was as if Sony decided, free of will, that the control would have no rumble features, however that is not true according to the reliable links we have at our hand. In a previous situation, you felt offended immediately after I wrote a comment [2] for which I apologized. However this time you continued discussing and decided to go back later to see what could be considered bad faith. Note that when I felt offended with the way you were indenting the talk, [3] not respecting the talk guidelines, I said that immediately, not after the discussion finished. Removing perfectly verifiable and sourced information just because you don't like speculation downgrades the quality of the article, as it hides facts (the fact that Sony claimed the rumbling affected motion sensors and the fact that Immersion stated that 1. they have won a lawsuit that prevents Sony from using the technology if upheld and 2. they would help Sony to incorporate rumbling without interfering the sensors) from the readers. Remember that you do not own the article. As for the etiquette, could you tell me where you felt I did not respect it? Certainly you did not work toward agreement, but I did not assume bad faith in your behaviour, just pointed out you were coming back again and again to the starting point. Note that good faith is not a blanket you can use everytime you feel affected. Yelling "Assume Good Faith" at people does not excuse you from explaining your actions, and making a habit of it will convince people that you're acting in bad faith. You talked to me four times [4] [5] [6] [7] before stating why you did not want that information in the article [8] Had you stated that from the beginning of the thread, you would have prevented misunderstandings. As an advice, next time go directly to the matter and state your point. -- ReyBrujo 18:05, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Re: English re:PS3 discussion
Please, no personal attacks. If you wish not to reply, I have no problems with that. However, personal attacks do not really help. I am guessing you are stressed with the recent vandalism that had happened in the PS3 and Wii articles, that is why I suggest to cool down and, if necessary, take a break. I understand about this, I have been wikistressed myself, and realized that taking a break really helps. Sorry for the misunderstandings, but know that attacking isn't the solution. -- ReyBrujo 18:35, 2 July 2006 (UTC)