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You might want to apologize and retract [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2014-November/004930.html THIS] unambiguous legal threat. [[User:Carrite|Carrite]] ([[User talk:Carrite|talk]]) 15:23, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
You might want to apologize and retract [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2014-November/004930.html THIS] unambiguous legal threat. [[User:Carrite|Carrite]] ([[User talk:Carrite|talk]]) 15:23, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
:Hi Carrite! Happy Thanksgiving - and wow, I apologize if that email came off that way. It's been a very emotional few days here in the US as you might know - especially if you are involved in social action. It's is not a legal threat. ''Trust me''! I have had about 15-20 legal threats ("I am suing you," "My lawyer is contacting you," blahblah) sent my way since I have been editing over the past 9 years and surely this is not a legal threat :) I was asking! I apologize that it came off that way, but surely you misunderstood, and that's OK, Wikipedia is a tense place these days and I can see how that might happen. I am just genuinely curious, if anyone could ever take legal action against Wikipedia (as a concept, as a whole) for being banned or blocked due to sexism or racism or anything like that or if someone could do that. I wasn't suggesting that it happen, nor was I suggesting anyone do it. I wish no ill will on ArbCom, I have many Wiki-friends there, I just get more anxious about anyone on Wikipedia harassing people with slurs and hurtful things. Have a great holiday! [[User:Missvain|Missvain]] ([[User talk:Missvain#top|talk]]) 16:41, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
:Hi Carrite! Happy Thanksgiving - and wow, I apologize if that email came off that way. It's been a very emotional few days here in the US as you might know - especially if you are involved in social action. It's is not a legal threat. ''Trust me''! I have had about 15-20 legal threats ("I am suing you," "My lawyer is contacting you," blahblah) sent my way since I have been editing over the past 9 years and surely this is not a legal threat :) I was asking! I apologize that it came off that way, but surely you misunderstood, and that's OK, Wikipedia is a tense place these days and I can see how that might happen. I am just genuinely curious, if anyone could ever take legal action against Wikipedia (as a concept, as a whole, individual editors) for being banned or blocked due to sexism or racism or anything like that or if someone could do that. I wasn't suggesting that it happen, nor was I suggesting anyone do it. I wish no ill will on ArbCom, I have many Wiki-friends there, I just get more anxious about anyone on Wikipedia harassing people with slurs and hurtful things. Have a great holiday! [[User:Missvain|Missvain]] ([[User talk:Missvain#top|talk]]) 16:41, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
::Oh, and if you're worried about this statement "I have a lawyer on standby for every single threat that comes my way now on
::Oh, and if you're worried about this statement "I have a lawyer on standby for every single threat that comes my way now on
::the internet, and that includes Wikipedia - I'm not rich, but, frankly, I just can't do it alone anymore and the system isn't solving anything. From Twitter to Wikipedia, a day doesn't' go by when myself or a woman I know isn't threatened on the internet. I'm just so sick of it." That's not a threat - I have no one to threat - I'm protecting myself from people who may be violating the law when they tell me they're going to rape me, or kill me, or hurt my family - and sadly, Carrite, they have done it through Wikipedia emails. So, I have to make sure that I protect myself and my family as needed, and having legal counsel is one way I can do that, including Wikimedia Foundation legal counsel which we all have access to as contributors. Thanks for understanding, and once more, happy holidays! [[User:Missvain|Missvain]] ([[User talk:Missvain#top|talk]]) 16:46, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
::the internet, and that includes Wikipedia - I'm not rich, but, frankly, I just can't do it alone anymore and the system isn't solving anything. From Twitter to Wikipedia, a day doesn't' go by when myself or a woman I know isn't threatened on the internet. I'm just so sick of it." That's not a threat - I have no one to threat - I'm protecting myself from people who may be violating the law when they tell me they're going to rape me, or kill me, or hurt my family - and sadly, Carrite, they have done it through Wikipedia emails. So, I have to make sure that I protect myself and my family as needed, and having legal counsel is one way I can do that, including Wikimedia Foundation legal counsel which we all have access to as contributors. Thanks for understanding, and once more, happy holidays! [[User:Missvain|Missvain]] ([[User talk:Missvain#top|talk]]) 16:46, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

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You might want to apologize and retract THIS unambiguous legal threat. Carrite (talk) 15:23, 26 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Carrite! Happy Thanksgiving - and wow, I apologize if that email came off that way. It's been a very emotional few days here in the US as you might know - especially if you are involved in social action. It's is not a legal threat. Trust me! I have had about 15-20 legal threats ("I am suing you," "My lawyer is contacting you," blahblah) sent my way since I have been editing over the past 9 years and surely this is not a legal threat :) I was asking! I apologize that it came off that way, but surely you misunderstood, and that's OK, Wikipedia is a tense place these days and I can see how that might happen. I am just genuinely curious, if anyone could ever take legal action against Wikipedia (as a concept, as a whole, individual editors) for being banned or blocked due to sexism or racism or anything like that or if someone could do that. I wasn't suggesting that it happen, nor was I suggesting anyone do it. I wish no ill will on ArbCom, I have many Wiki-friends there, I just get more anxious about anyone on Wikipedia harassing people with slurs and hurtful things. Have a great holiday! Missvain (talk) 16:41, 26 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and if you're worried about this statement "I have a lawyer on standby for every single threat that comes my way now on
the internet, and that includes Wikipedia - I'm not rich, but, frankly, I just can't do it alone anymore and the system isn't solving anything. From Twitter to Wikipedia, a day doesn't' go by when myself or a woman I know isn't threatened on the internet. I'm just so sick of it." That's not a threat - I have no one to threat - I'm protecting myself from people who may be violating the law when they tell me they're going to rape me, or kill me, or hurt my family - and sadly, Carrite, they have done it through Wikipedia emails. So, I have to make sure that I protect myself and my family as needed, and having legal counsel is one way I can do that, including Wikimedia Foundation legal counsel which we all have access to as contributors. Thanks for understanding, and once more, happy holidays! Missvain (talk) 16:46, 26 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]