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The Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc

Hi John, I noticed that several times you have reverted an IP who keeps blanking the plot section of the The Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc page. They continue to blank this section without any explanation beyond an edit summary stating their reason has been "given several times." I was wondering if you know what is going on there? I have reverted them several times over the last few days as section blanking without explanation always looks, at least superficially, like vandalism, but I have not seen this film and don't know anything about it, so I do not know if there is a legitimate reason for removing the section. I would appreciate your opinion. Cheers. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 14:32, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Sarah. I have generally treated the removal of large amounts of apparently legitimate text without explanation, or with a frivolous explanation, as vandalism -- especially when this is done by a new user, or by an unregistered user with a dynamic IP address, who need not worry about developing a reputation for contentious editing, and to whom the 3RR can't effectively be applied. The only reasons given by En1, 152.163.101.11, 64.12.117.11, and 205.188.117.11 (presumably all the same person) for removing the plot section are:

(a) "Previous editor had inadvertently, despite good intentions, restored a garbled addition."

(b) "Rv undiscussed changes"

(c) "If you want to add all this, please first clean it up for accuracy, language, etc."

(d) "The reasons for restoring the original version have been given several times. Please state a reason for adding this."

The claim that the plot section is "garbled" appears to be entirely frivolous. The objection to "undiscussed changes" per se might be relevant to a policy page, where changes can't be made without prior consensus, but it is wholly irrelevant to an ordinary article. The claimed need to "clean... up" the plot section for "language" appears to be a repetition of the "garbled" claim. As for the aspersions cast upon the "accuracy" of the plot section, I would note that the supposed inaccuracies have never been specifically identified.

Without any satisfactory explanation of why the removal of the plot section is a legitimate edit, I would see the continued removal of this section as vandalism, and revert it on sight. Since the unconstructive edits have been made from various AOL proxies, warning and blocking the offending IP is not really an option. I have watchlisted this article myself, and requested that the article be semi-protected on WP:RFPP. Thanks for your help in restoring the plot section. John254 17:02, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that, John. That was my view as well, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. Cheers for your quick and informative reply. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 17:06, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

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