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Paresh Gami is Born in 16 September 1993 Palanpur(changwada) Gujarat (india). Paresh working and research on online marketing. He studied in Gujarat Technical Univercity on Information Technology. Paresh also studied and learned online Marketing, web Developeing, Stoc market and Electrical Engineering.
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== Merge with [[Wikipedia:Starting an article]] ==

I fully support this merge. Too many help pages trying to do the same thing are confusing. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]&#124;[[User talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> reply here</font>]]</sub> 08:00, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
*Support. They're way too similar. [[User:Benny White|Benny White]] ([[User talk:Benny White|talk]]) 01:56, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
*'''Merge'''. One article was probably built off the other one, anyway. There's no point in keeping articles with just barely notable differences. — [[User:CarnivorousBunny|Carnivorous Bunny]] ([[User talk:CarnivorousBunny|talk]]) 16:39, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
*'''Support merge''' I came to suggest it and noticed [[User:Piotrus|Piotrus]] already had. I fully support a merge as both pages are centered on the same goal and just act as more things to read for your average newcomers who are most likely already overwhelmed by Wikipedia's policies and procedures. This merge would allow for us to create one succinct, easy to access page, where a user doesn't have to go to multiple sources to find what is almost the same information. [[User:MJ94|MJ94]] ([[User talk:MJ94|talk]]) 04:36, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - a large number of other help pages are duplicating each other and making things harder for new users, they could also do with merging. [[User:Jr8825|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#8B0000">Jr8825</font>]] • [[User Talk:Jr8825|<font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#4682B4">Talk</font>]] 15:21, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
*'''Support''' It's nice that the opposes think that the two articles are aimed significantly differently, a view which ... is not borne out when one actually reads them. --[[User:Joe Decker|j⚛e decker]][[User talk:Joe Decker|<sup><small><i>talk</i></small></sup>]] 15:04, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

So, anyone bold enough to merge the contents? [[User:Diego Moya|Diego]] ([[User talk:Diego Moya|talk]]) 14:08, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

*'''Weak Oppose.''' Just judging from the titles, one article speaks to the newbie, the other to someone more experienced. --[[User:Mr. Guye|Mr. Guye]] ([[User talk:Mr. Guye|talk]]) 20:01, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

usefull pag <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/203.81.107.4|203.81.107.4]] ([[User talk:203.81.107.4|talk]]) 11:46, 25 March 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

*'''Oppose''' - Agree with Mr. Guye. If someone just wants a refresher on making an article, etc., they shouldn't have to dig through all the stuff designed for someone just starting out. They should stay seperate. [[User:Moonchïld9|Moonchïld9]] ([[User talk:Moonchïld9|talk]]) 19:31, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
::That would largely require a rewrite of [[Wikipedia:Starting an article]], though. As they stand now, both articles contain mostly the same content. [[User:Diego Moya|Diego]] ([[User talk:Diego Moya|talk]]) 08:40, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
::If some experienced, but lazy, editor needs a "refresher" it should be by some means other than the useless proliferation of redundant articles, there is already a [[Wikipedia:Simple guide to creating your first article|Super simple guide]].[[User:Atani|Atani]] ([[User talk:Atani|talk]]) 04:45, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
*'''Support''' We should definitely merge these articles. All these help pages are just wasting valuble editing time! [[User:EMachine03|EMachine03]] ([[User talk:EMachine03|talk]]) 21:15, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Better merge to keep things at hand and not dispersed.'''<span style="color:purple">S<span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">ola</span></span><span style="color:blue"><span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">tido</span></span>''' 12:38, 18 July 2014 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Solatido|Solatido]] ([[User talk:Solatido|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Solatido|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*'''Support''': As has been stated above, the contents of the articles are largely the same. Further, I see no reason a single article can't be aimed at all editors, regardless of varying levels of experience. [[User:Zziccardi|—zziccardi]] ([[User talk:Zziccardi|talk]]) 23:34, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
*'''Support''': Can we get serious for a moment?
:Neither this article nor the [[Wikipedia:Starting an article]] page is an excellent article yet, but the aim and the content is virtually identical, there is nothing really ''to'' merge. One of these articles should be deleted, NOW. Continuing this discussion isn't doing ''The Project'' any good, it's only showing that ''we'' can't make a decision about the obvious. The ''other'' article is at this point at a slightly lesser state of development, therefore delete that one NOW. Even if my assessment on that is wrong, neither article is getting the development it needs to become excellent; once that one is gone editorial energy will flow in the correct direction, development can continue. As it stands two poor articles linger. This topic is actually one of the most important in the entire Project, it is supposed to tell newcomers how to do what we do. This has been a lingering issue for more than a year, or maybe years, which is a waste of everyone's time. Once that other page is gone ''no one'' will miss it, then we can focus on developing this article into an excellent and useful article, which at this point neither one is.
[[User:Atani|Atani]] ([[User talk:Atani|talk]]) 04:05, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

:* I suggest we merge this page into [[Wikipedia:Starting an article]], with a "Your first article" section targeted at newcomers. Thoughts? [[User:Benny White|Benny White]] ([[User talk:Benny White|talk]]) 06:45, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2014 ==

{{edit semi-protected|Wikipedia:Your first article|answered=yes}}
<<<draft article removed>>>

[[Special:Contributions/39.41.37.245|39.41.37.245]] ([[User talk:39.41.37.245|talk]]) 18:59, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=]] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> This is not the place to write a new article. To do so, go to [[WP:AFC]]. Thanks, [[User:Mz7|Mz7]] ([[User talk:Mz7|talk]]) 19:11, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

== Replacing WP:N/N ==

So, after "Welcome to Wikipedia", the first advice given to new users, about creating new articles, in the do's and don'ts, when they are trying to understand if they can even have an article on another subject, takes them to the Notability Noticeboard.

Which has been closed since last year or longer.

So, we have thousands of new editors constantly confused about our notability guidelines, we point them often at this article to help them get some clue, and this article needs to tell them where they can go to get help regarding the complex minefield of Wikipedia notability.

Where should we send them?

I have marked that suggestion, which is the only assistance we provide there, with strikeout text, but we should add back an alternative. --[[User:Joe Decker|j⚛e decker]][[User talk:Joe Decker|<sup><small><i>talk</i></small></sup>]] 05:43, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
: Okay, for now, I'm sending them to the Teahouse. Suggestions and bold implementations of better ideas is strongly welcomed. --[[User:Joe Decker|j⚛e decker]][[User talk:Joe Decker|<sup><small><i>talk</i></small></sup>]] 05:54, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2014 ==

{{edit semi-protected|Wikipedia:Your first article|answered=yes}}
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[[User:Joey Fatts|Joey Fatts]] ([[User talk:Joey Fatts|talk]]) 00:08, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

:Please see [[WP:AfC]] to request an article for creation. - [[User:Camyoung54|<font color="orange">'''Camyoung54'''</font>]] [[User talk:Camyoung54|<font color="darkblue"><sup>talk</sup></font>]] 02:59, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

== Removing the Kluge at the top ==

This is supposed to be a page where we teach new editors how its supposed to be done, instead this page has become almost an anti-Wikipedia page, the header section is full of so much [[kludge]] the article itself has been shoved completely off the bottom of the screen - not good. It's all going to go except for the Merge tag. I've created a dynamite little header section and introduction where things line up more or less and all of the boxes don't interfere too much with the text. If you want to turn dynamite into [[Amatol]] or [[RDX]] feel free to do so. Please restrain yourselves, though, from putting all of the kludge back in order to accommodate the [[Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder|ADHD]] generation - there is already a [[Wikipedia:Simple guide to creating your first article|simplified version of this page]]. If you want to tell the story of the [[Cosmos|entire Universe]] told in a single word, then a sentence, then a page, then a chapter, then a whole book then read [[Finnegans Wake]], I'm on about year eight of that project myself.[[User:Atani|Atani]] ([[User talk:Atani|talk]]) 02:27, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

== Take strong issue with representation of first entry of references ==

Though editing here for years, this is the first time I have come across this training page, and I have to take strong issue with the way in which the following presents initial entry of sources:{{blockquote|1=
'''Entering references'''
The very first thing you should write in your article is a list of the source(s) for your information. For now, just enter them like this (and they will automatically turn into links):
* (1) http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/books/12vonnegut.html
* (2) http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/space/space_shuttle.html}}
The issues I take this this content is as follows. '''''First''''', this presumes and so supports the notion that ''typically adequate sources of information to start articles are web-based sources, an assertion which is often untrue''—though the two sources chosen here may indeed be good sources, ''the vast majority of web sources are unsuitable as sources at wikipedia.'' '''''Second''''', ''this initial presentation of sourcing offers it as contentless text strings that are only functional as links'' (that cannot be traced to the actual textual content, apart from the function of the link), rather than deriving from the web sources the usual important components of a true encyclopedic citation that cannot become meaningless when the bare URL dies as a link. '''''Third''''', this ''absolute dearth of ''details'' suggest—quite contrary to best practices of referencing—that details are unimportant'', when in fact the opposite is true; it is through the details that one arrives at whether one should be using the source in the first place. (No author at the website? No date of publication? Publishing house that one cannot google to find the city it's located in? Evidences of too near a relationships between the webpage and the article subject, i.e., evidence of non-independence? These are only the beginning of the hints, available through sourcing details, of possible poor sources.) '''''In short, this initial presentation falls far short of the way we should suggest students, editors, or any others in training, to record their first references when writing encyclopedic content.'''''

Here are a set of six alternatives to the above, which make clear, '''''A.''''', that <u>printed (formally published) sources are the best sources for wikipedia</u>, '''''B.''''', that a critical first step in choosing a citation is making sure they are good sources (which can further be assessed, web page-derived or not, based on by whether, for instance, that <u>the information being drawn upon has an author, title, date of publication</u>, etc.), '''''C.''''', that a further ''immediately important'' step is to <u>extract from the web-location easily traced bibliographic information</u>, to ensure the information extracted for the article remains verifiable after the URL and link become nonfunctional, '''''D.''''', that ''more is better''—that <u>it is better to cut and paste in too much information about the source, for others to properly format and edit down, than it is to pull minimal material</u>—and that the details regarding sources are ''critically important'', rather than unimportant, '''''E.''''', that <u>good, high value, classic or recent sources are key to good editor contributions</u>, and '''''F.''''', that <u>varieties of source types are generally needed for good sourcing of articles.</u> (After perusing the appended bullets, ask a scientist you know if they are good sources. Note some are print, other are web, and those from web ''from their onset appearing here'' have date accessed attached. If teaching, teach quality.)

Here are examples of good sorts of starting citation entries, that can then be edited into a consistent format, used to put into templates to standardize appearance, etc. ''Note, I am away that are monotonically scientific. Feel free to substitute non-scientific examples of books, journals, book chapters, etc., for these'':

* R.E. Gawley & J. Aube. 1996, Principles of Asymmetric Synthesis (Tetrahedron Organic Chemistry Series, Vol. 14), New York:Pergamon Press, pp. 121-130, esp. p. 127, ISBN 0080418759.

* E.S. Radisky & D.E. Koshland, 2002, A clogged gutter mechanism for protease inhibitors, Proceedings of the National Academy of Scences U.S.A., Vol. 99, No. 16, pp. 10316-10321.

* A.M.P. Koskinen, 2012, Asymmetric Synthesis of Natural Products, Chichester, UK:John Wiley and Sons, pp. 3-7.

* Ian Fleming, 2010, Molecular Orbitals and Organic Chemical Reactions: Student Edition, John Wiley and Sons, pp. 158-160; see also Ian Fleming, 2010, Molecular Orbitals and Organic Chemical Reactions: Reference Edition, John Wiley and Sons, pp. 214–215, ISBN 0470746580, http://www.amazon.com/Molecular-Orbitals-Organic-Chemical-Reactions/dp/0470746599, accessed 5 January 2014.</ref>

* H. B. Bürgi, J. D. Dunitz, J. M. Lehn, G. Wipff, 1974, Stereochemistry of reaction paths at carbonyl centers, Tetrahedron, Vol. 30, Issue 12, pages 1563–1572, DOI 10.1016/S0040-4020(01)90678-7.

* C.H. Heathcock, 1990, Understanding and controlling diastereofacial selectivity in carbon-carbon bond-forming reactions, Aldrichimica Acta 23(4):94-111, esp. p. 101, see http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/content/dam/sigma-aldrich/docs/Aldrich/Acta/al_acta_23_04.pdf, accessed 9 June 2014.

Bottom line, with training such as this, it is not in the least surprising that many articles appear, and remain, only with the worst sorts of sourcing, and many remain with URL-only sets of sources that eventually succumb to link rot—and become and remain poorly or completely unsourced, and therefore unverifiable, and non-encyclopedic content. '''''This training document needs desperately to be improved, to reflect best practices of scholarship, rather than "just enough to get by".''''' <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.239.87.100|71.239.87.100]] ([[User talk:71.239.87.100|talk]]) 03:49, 25 December 2014 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Reason for requiring registering ==

Why do you have to register to create an article? I want to know a reason why? [[Special:Contributions/216.145.89.170|216.145.89.170]] ([[User talk:216.145.89.170|talk]]) 23:06, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
:This restriction was put in place after the [[Wikipedia Seigenthaler biography incident]]. A good place to start reading would be [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2006-12-04/Seigenthaler revisited]]. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 07:44, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

== Semi-protected edit request on 9 March 2015 ==

{{edit semi-protected|Wikipedia:Your first article|answered=y}}
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about manar vayal.
manar vayal is the smalest vilage, which is located in keel manar,near to pillur dam,the manar vayal is the only private property among the reserve forest.
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[[User:Sathyamurthy.s|Sathyamurthy.s]] ([[User talk:Sathyamurthy.s|talk]]) 09:51, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

{{Not done}} This is not the place to post suggested articles; please try [[WP:AFC|articles for creation]] - however, you will need to show there has been '''significant''' coverage, in '''reliable''' sources that are '''independent''' of the subject. - [[User:Arjayay|Arjayay]] ([[User talk:Arjayay|talk]]) 10:19, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

== Lasya K ==
{{edit semi-protected|Wikipedia:Your first article|answered=y}}
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'''Paste of proposed article deleted'''

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[[User:Prasanthbalanagu|Prasanthbalanagu]] ([[User talk:Prasanthbalanagu|talk]]) 12:11, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

{{Not done}}{ - as it says in big bold letters at the top of this edit page <big>''' "Do not create your first article on this page!" '''
</big><br />Please try [[WP:AFC|articles for creation]] - however, you will need to show there has been '''significant''' coverage, in '''reliable''' sources that are '''independent''' of the subject - there are none of these in what you posted. - [[User:Arjayay|Arjayay]] ([[User talk:Arjayay|talk]]) 12:25, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

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Paresh Gami is Born in 16 September 1993 Palanpur(changwada) Gujarat (india). Paresh working and research on online marketing. He studied in Gujarat Technical Univercity on Information Technology. Paresh also studied and learned online Marketing, web Developeing, Stoc market and Electrical Engineering. Paresh founded www.heptomovie.com and mastertrick.com website. He write technical artical on www.mastertrick.com. heptomovie.com site is provide free hd movies download.

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