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Determinism and Randomness

Hi Thanks for your valuable suggestions. I have significantly reduced the essay like nature and also tried to make it more neutral by making simple slight changes.I've also added proper references and external links. Another thing that i realised was that the article should be a part of another article named Causal Determinism as that is exactly the aspect of determinism that i've elaborated.That article is anyways a stub.So,i'm gonna support the deletion and add the contents of my to the article mentioned here. Kindly check out the article now and leave me a message if its satisfactory. thanks Raghavb 20:49, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot about the citation idea. I see your point. Raghavb 12:14, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

WikiRoo/WikiDoo

I made a RfC entry for WikiRoo/WikiDoo here: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/WikiRoo. If you can look over it and improve it and certify it, I guess we can go from there. He was at it again this morning. --Gary Will 15:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I added the case to Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct. It's my first too. From what's there, I'm not sure that much will come of this. We'll see, I guess. I was just reading a case from April with no resolution. --Gary Will 18:56, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Re : Welcome back!

That's right, I'm back! - And thanks for the well-wishes, I really appreciate them. :) - Cheers, Mailer Diablo 16:05, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Fantasy Football

Fantasy Football is an online activity and removing links to NFL.com ESPN.com CBS.com, fantasy rankings, fantasy projections and fantasy software would be censoring information from wikipedians. If a user wants to learn about Fantasy Football, an online event, he does so by visiting sites that play fantasy football or give him fantasy football information. Removing links to those sites is counter productive.

I understand you are trying to remove spam. Tidying up pages is fine. But 'deleting' links is not progress. The page you referred to for fantasy football is in no way as complete as the link list that was on wikipedia.

If you want to continue to make progressive changes for the wikipedia community, do so. But, don't remove links with inferior links. If someone wants to know more about fantasy football, he will do so my continuing to established fantasy football sites where they can play fantasy football. Don't link the wikipedian to sites that are about football, instead of fantasy football. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Amrosent (talk • contribs) 22:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

wikiHow

Dan

Just stumbled on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam#.22wikihow.22 I replied in the discussion but wanted to highlight in case you missed it as it slips towards the archives.

Best, JackHerrick 17:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

RobNelsonFilms

Not sure how to add information to this so that it gets to the needed sources, but I wasn't spamming. I'm new to Wikipedia and I'm not sure how it works. I just tested it out by adding some of my most resourcefull pages to the appropriate sources, considering the links on the pages that I found when I was researching the info for my site weren't all that good. I thought it would help out. I thought users would like to see that.

I realize Wiki isn't a source of just links to good info, but its not encouraging me much to help Wikimedia if my additions aren't even noted. I don't think they even looked at my site additions. Sheesh.

Besides, we're not commercial anyhow. We're a collection of 5 graduate students that make articles on biology info.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam"

Rob —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.101.13.136 (talk • contribs) 21:26, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

WP:PAIN

Hi, Dan. Reviewing your claim on WP:PAIN that WikiRoo had been "namecalling" in edit summaries, I thought it exaggerated. "Dissident" isn't even a negative word. I did write a lttle note advising him against using words like "progagandist" in edit summaries, though. But considering that you're in a content conflict with WikiRoo and have recently filed an RFC on him, you might want to consider that actions like WP:PAIN reports for such mild-to-non-existent infractions may reflect badly on you rather than him. I also frankly have a bit of a problem with the note from you that I saw on his page. It's misleading to suggest that editors have an obligation to " try to find something positive to say" to balance critical input that they make. Please review WP:NPOV, as it's our most important policy. And please don't try to deter people from editing articles "if all you can think of is negativity"; that's misrepresenting WP:NPOV in a big way. Intimidating people from contributing is altogether frowned on. Best wishes, Bishonen | talk 12:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC).

WikiRoo continuing with attacks

On the AfD page Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Unique Regional Government Structure in Ontario, WikiRoo continues with paranoid personal attacks and unfounded allegations, accusing everyone who disagrees with him as being either sockpuppets or a cabal. You already gave him a 'last warning'. Time to pull the plug on him? --DarkAudit 18:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Cellular Automaton

Dan,

First, as a recognised researcher in the field of cellular automata (I am the only person who has ever constructed a self-replicator within von Neumann's 29-state cellular automata), I am well placed to give these comments.

Second, Hiroki Sayama is also a well recognised researcher in this field. I suspect that it is he who added the link which you have construed to be spam. Frankly, the article is relevant to the field, for it discusses models of self-replicators within the space of a cellular automata. The link given is to his paper, as available from an MIT Press website.

Third, while I can agree that the article Cellular Automaton is becoming overly broad in its references, this would also include the mentions of Wolfram's work, and he is clearly interested in self-promotion. I know Wolfram (even if only as a passing acquaintance), and I do not regard his work in ANKOS as being particularly important. Sayama's work is far more relevant to the topic of cellular automata. ANKOS is relevant only as a picturebook of the output of some systems of cellular automata.

Forth, what may be more relevant to your act, is the creation of a list of topical papers, and have a single link to that list within the references section of the Cellular Automaton article. What should not be done is a wholesale exclusion of relevant material.

Finally, in my opinion, the article is poorly named. A cellular automaton is a (single) finite-state automaton that resides within a (single) cell of a system of cellular automata. In this regard, Wolfram is using the language correctly. I find it quite strange that persons having interest in the topic of cellular automata persist in misnaming (see the discussion page of the article for some relevant exchange between editors).

The article should be titled: Cellular Automata. William R. Buckley 16:28, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the near immediate reply. I have been reviewing the Wikipages respecting the issue of spam, and in particular those messages which discuss apparent actions of Scientific American. About this problem, I am probably in agreement with removal of the link, if only because such links are added to inappropriate places. I really do like the idea of having separate pages which list all relevant external publications (be they magazines, books, movies, websites, etc.), with a single link thereto within the references section of other Wikipedia articles.

The link to Sayama's paper, even though it is through the MIT Press website, is not promotional. Sayama's paper has been published (in 2000), and the link which you removed provides article readers with a means to obtain Sayama's paper. It is not promotional; it is informational. Further, since the paper has been published, it is citable. I will work to find a more suitable place to put such links. Perhaps the Wikipedia community could work with the Scientific American people to adjust their means of providing links. Wikipedia articles would clearly benefit from having external references, such as SciAm articles. It seems the issue is more a matter of how and where such links are obtained and provided. Please know, I do support your deletionist (is that the correct title) activities, even if I do not clearly understand the tendency. I am probably more of the inclusionist bent, even as I hold that Wikipedia should be a strong information source.

Finally, I do well appreciate your comment respecting the suitable place to discuss concepts like article naming. In fact, you will find (upon review) that the discussion page for the article Cellular Automaton does already have some debate of this issue. Indeed, I initiated that debate. William R. Buckley 17:49, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

cyLEDGE

The cyLEDGE article has now been edited to take into account justified criticisms by several users. Please accept our apologies for what may have seemed excessive or unclear marketing jargon (the jargon which, for better or worse, we are most familar with...), and have done our best to follow the Wiki Style manual. Though cyLEDGE contains the company site as an external link, it is not so much a marketing campaign than it is an attempt to communicate what we are doing and get reactions from other people working or interested in the field. Since there is a natural affinity to cyLEDGE's activities and open-platforms such as Wikipedia, it is important for us to be present there - an additional paragraph has been added to make as clear as possible what the issues at stake are, and which we are trying to come to terms with. I hope you will reconsider your proposed deletion in view of these changes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Knusper (talk • contribs) 16:03, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

WikiRoo

Hi,

You may very well be right. Two things in which to take solace, though: 1)WikiRoo is now blocked; and 2) IP addresses can't have their talkpages deleted as easily (being multi-user, they don't have a right to vanish of the same kind), so any griping he does from there will be universally visible. If the IP in question is WikiRoo, it is also possible that he's just confused, and didn't realize that asking to vanish meant that he'd be blocked permanently. As an eternal optimist, I still hope he'll figure all that out and set himself to constructive editing. Best wishes, Xoloz 05:13, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

As I mentioned to GaryWill at his talk, the answer is no. Blocking an IP can lead to inadvertent "collateral damage" (the blocking of innocent users on the same network); as well, it is a virtual certainly that someone else will come to possess WikiRoo's exact current IP address someday (people move -- IPs move too.) For these two reasons, indefinite blocks of IP addresses are forbidden, more or less. The "right to vanish" only exists for registered accounts -- which makes sense, since editing behind an IP is a form of anonimity anyway. Best wishes, Xoloz 00:00, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

are you an admin?

In that case it is meaningles talking with you, by using violence your are going to impose your POV anyway. Karnagio 01:39, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Yanksox

Please see Requests for adminship/Yanksox. Thanks Tyrenius 13:40, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't think it will cause any problem, now it's been sorted, and your explanation given. Good job there was one that occurred before where it happened, or I wouldn't have known either. Tyrenius 13:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Dan, don't worry about your comments and please don't be so hard on yourself. I deeply appreciate your kind words towards me. If you need anything feel free to contact me. :) Yanksox 21:02, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

request to clean up the history of frustration

Wiki has a policy to keep things like users IP adress confidential. What realy got me going was when I first signed up and right away someone plastered my IP address in a banner across my user name page like a branded criminal.

That was the catalist to the whole escapade when I found myself reacting to being under personal attack which started me fighting back at everyone like Don Quixote.

Kindly delete the IP page entirely. I don't want my new work getting prejudiced by that initial foray. Wiki does have a policy of not publishing IP adresses of its editors. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by WikiWoo (talk • contribs) 04:42, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

looking for your support

Hi AbsolutDan,

Looking for your support on my first article which I think I've put together properly and nicely. I have quite a few editors saying Keep, but I don't know if a bunch of other people are working together to show up at the last minute with a bunch of delete votes to kill my work. I expected a few like Will who have not cast their vote, so I believe they are holding back till the last minute to ambush this article just before the vote tally, to take away my ability to resolve or comment on their reasons.

I also have ideas for more articles and I don't what to invest too much time if others are going to use tactics to undermine it. This is the vote page and I would appreciate your review and comments and anyone else that may be interested in helping to expand Wiki wiht new content.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Emil_Kolb

WikiWoo 19:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Laser Tag and WP:EL

Hello Dan. You don't know me, but I spotted a comment by you to another user on their talk page about Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam. I was hoping, when you get the time, if you would kindly take a look at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Laser Tag and WP:EL and perhaps give your input. I would appreciate it. Cheers! -- moe.RON ^{talk | done | doing} 18:22, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate your comments and will contact you if I need further assistance. Cheers again! -- moe.RON ^{talk | done | doing} 17:36, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Wiki(Woo) and the Susan Fennell page

Since you've dealt with WikiRoo before on the Susan Fennell talk page, I was wondering if you could come by and explain original research and citing your work. I've tried, but he finds the idea of citing everything added "ridiculous." He is attempting to insert his own original research into the article and claims that he has referenced it by giving links to general Google search results (that is, he has extrapolated from the mass of results for a specific set of search terms, and then cited the search as a "reliable source" for his conclusion). OzLawyer 19:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Yep, thanks. OzLawyer 15:36, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

He's back

This time as WikiWoo. This is getting tedious. --DarkAudit 14:16, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Deletion of Lord Strachan

Dear Dan,

I read your notes and such about "vandalism", and the articles I have created. Lord Strachan is an actual figure in Scottish and British Parliament, the youngest in fact! I'm currently writing to you from Glasgow, Scotland, and I believe a couple of My Friends attempted to write this Lord Strachan page a while ago, but they were deleted as well. Hmmm . . .

As well, I can see you getting angry at the Fettes College thing, and I am a little sorry for that, but Lord Strachan did attend Fettes College, so can you perhaps write that in there?

Please respond to me why writing about a current political figure is wrong, Thank you,

Avakynesian —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Avakynesian (talk • contribs) 04:39, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Dan, here you are - Lord Robert Keith Strachan House of Lords - Heaton and Others (Respondents) v. Axa Equity ...Lord Strachan heard the twelve actions together and in April 2006 he gave judgment in all of them. The parts of his opinion dealing with liability and with age ... www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200102/ldjudgmt/jd020425/heaton-3.htm - 30k - I don't know if this is what you want, but it's some publicity about Lord Strachan. Thank you for your time, but, perhaps; If I give you the iformation and images and such for Lord Strachan, could you maybe make it? It shouldn't be that hard to find info, or images, but I already have them, so if I give you this stuff, perhaps could you do it? Avakynesian 04:50, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

AbsolutDan: Is he a rogue admin with a vandetta?

If you continue to vandalize my talk page you will be reported to other admins. Please provide a link to wikipedia guidelines that say I cannot clean up MY OWN talk page. Also, while you are at it, I suggest you read this article and pay close attention to what it says. Get a life, you robotic idiot. Cshay 19:56, 24 July 2006 (UTC)