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Longest marriage

If you google Bakeman, it says he was married 81 years and married at a much more believable 22. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.194.140.19 (talk) 17:28, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's true, but there is still no conclusive evidence for this at all, so it will remain "91" at least for the time being. Extremely sexy (talk) 20:38, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is evidence against "91", but as normally Wikipedia is ignoring scientific facts. --2003:74:CD2B:4077:9019:9117:C0D4:3278 (talk) 19:31, 13 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is at least as much "evidence" for as well as against "91", hence. Extremely sexy (talk) 22:51, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Since Bakeman's entry isn't supported by a single reliable source (unless you count findagrave.com, which is primary at best), the entry should simply be removed. Pburka (talk) 23:10, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yang Shengzhong and Jin Jifen

There are some articles online about them celebrating their 90th on 16 December 2011, and they seem to be from reputable sources. http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2011/12/16/Chinas-oldest-couple-hit-90th-anniversary/27111324061828/ Not sure if they're still living, but it would at least put them on the longest overall list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:8:9780:A05:8069:A30E:96EE:A631 (talk) 04:25, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That was almost five years ago now, so it's very improbable indeed that they are still alive. Extremely sexy (talk) 22:51, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What's the criteria to be included in the list of living people on this page? Hopefully it's something more objective than one editor opining that they're probably dead. The distinction between living and dead in this list is highly problematic, as very few of the people are notable in their own right, so their deaths are unlikely to be reported by secondary sources. Pburka (talk) 00:22, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Duranord and Jeanne Veillard

This article says they have been married since November 1932 (82+ years) and are both alive as of the end of February 2015: [1] Any verification? 96.255.218.185 (talk) 23:11, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That would be 83 as of this month, if both are still alive that is, but having been born in Haiti it's very difficult indeed to verify their claim. Extremely sexy (talk) 22:51, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We don't need to verify anything, since it was reported by a reliable secondary source (USA Today). Our task as editors is not to verify data ourselves; that would be WP:OR. Pburka (talk) 00:45, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This list contains the longest known marriages according to researchers...

According to the article, the contents are verified by "researchers". To whom does this refer? Most of the marriages seem to be sourced to news reports or to primary sources (e.g. findagrave). Are the researchers in question in fact Wikipedia editors? If so, this would seem to fall afoul of our prohibition against original research. Pburka (talk) 22:41, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable sources

Please note that a paid obituary published by a funeral home is NOT a WP:reliable source. Funeral homes publish whatever the family asks them to, and do not exercise any sort of editorial control. Please do NOT add information from funeral homes, or other paid obituaries. Wikipedia articles must be based on reliable sources. Pburka (talk) 00:56, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Remove entry 9 (William and Nancy Fullingim)

Entry 9, for William Archibald Archer Fullingim and Nancy Ellen Nannie (née Watson) Fullingim, is problematic. It's supported by three references, but none of them are reliable. The first is a letter published in an advice column, where the writer asserts that the Fullingims were her neighbors and describes the length of the marriage. The letter appears to be published verbatim, with no effort to verify the author's claims. The other two sources are both Find a Grave, a site which publishes unverified reports from the public. None of these sources are reliable, so we should not include this entry (unless a reliable source describing the length of their marriage can be found). I propose to delete the entry. Pburka (talk) 06:31, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Long marriages, or longest marriages?

The title and the lead say that this is a list of people with the longest marriages and, indeed, a number of the longest ones are described by reliable sources as being either the longest in the world (of those still living at the time), or the longest in a particular region. But many of the others are simply long marriages, and we have no way of verifying that there aren't longer documented marriages which we're simply not aware of. This list should either be limited to marriages which are described as 'longest' by reliable sources, or we should rename it to List of long marriages. My preference is the former, but I'm comfortable with either resolution. Pburka (talk) 06:01, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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 Entry 9, for William Archibald Archer Fullingim and Nancy Ellen Nannie (née Watson) Fullingim, is problematic. It's supported by three references, but none of them are reliable. The first is a letter published in an advice column, where the writer asserts that the Fullingims were her neighbors and describes the length of the marriage. The letter appears to be published verbatim, with no effort to verify the author's claims. The other two sources are both [[Find a Grave]], a site which publishes unverified reports from the public. None of these sources are reliable, so we should not include this entry (unless a reliable source describing the length of their marriage can be found). I propose to delete the entry. [[User:Pburka|Pburka]] ([[User talk:Pburka|talk]]) 06:31, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
+== Long marriages, or longest marriages? ==
+The title and the lead say that this is a list of people with the longest marriages and, indeed, a number of the longest ones are described by reliable sources as being either the longest in the world (of those still living at the time), or the longest in a particular region. But many of the others are simply long marriages, and we have no way of verifying that there aren't longer documented marriages which we're simply not aware of. This list should either be limited to marriages which are described as 'longest' by reliable sources, or we should rename it to [[List of long marriages]]. My preference is the former, but I'm comfortable with either resolution. [[User:Pburka|Pburka]] ([[User talk:Pburka|talk]]) 06:01, 20 January 2016 (UTC)