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== Ping ==

I answered your posts at [[Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of BLM Herd Management Areas/archive1]] and had some follow up questions -- I fixed most of what you pointed out (I think) and would value some advice on how to proceed. I've been off-wiki a lot lately, so how is all the stuff you are dealing with above going? I do get very tired of the trolls and bullies that attack good long-term editors. We do get a little irritable at times, but one thing Jimbo said that I wholeheartedly applaud (there aren't a ''lot'' of things Jimbo said that I applaud, but this was one...) was, "I generally find myself astounded at how nice we are to complete maniacs, and for how long." [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 19:36, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
:I will get back to your FLC in due course, thanks for the nudge. As for the "stuff" above, it's nothing to me. I have only one goal and that's the continued improvement of Wikipedia. What's happening reminds me a lot of modern health and safety, that we daren't do anything ever just in case there's an infinitesimal chance someone may get a bruised ego. I look forward to the end of the forthcoming two-plus months of drama, and I won't be taking part, there's little point. Arbcom have their own agenda, regardless of the lynching masses, and the equal number who stand behind me. What I ''do'' hope is that it will put more of a spotlight on the pisspoor !voting at ITN, the terrifying ignorance at the ref desks and, well, DYK, where do you begin? If I'm a complete maniac, you can sue me. I just want our encyclopedia to be the best in history. If that means reminding a few people that they're not doing the right thing, haven't been doing the right thing for a while, or have never done the right thing, that's fine too. I'm sure someone will let me know around Christmas that they don't want me continually improving Wikipedia. Ho hum. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 19:50, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Peer review/Burke and Hare murders/archive1|Two low life bastards, now at PR]] ==

No, not me and {{u|SchroCat|Gavin}}, but [[Burke and Hare murders|Burke and Hare]], an article that will no doubt be our last for the project. Any comments, greatly received. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">[[User:Cassianto|<font face="Papyrus">Cassianto</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Cassianto#top|<font face="Papyrus">Talk</font>]]</sup></span>''' 12:23, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
:Is Peer Review still actually working?! Wow. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 21:45, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
::It is for those who want to participate; until ArbCom and the morons at ANI hound them off, that is. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">[[User:Cassianto|<font face="Papyrus">Cassianto</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Cassianto#top|<font face="Papyrus">Talk</font>]]</sup></span>''' 22:05, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
:::Don't blame Arbcom, it's not really their fault................................ [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 22:15, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
Peer Review! How quaint! I'll pop by. --[[User:Dweller|Dweller]] ([[User talk:Dweller|talk]]) <small>Become [[User:Dweller/Old Fashioned Wikipedian Values|old fashioned!]]</small> 11:19, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Peer review/2003 Cricket World Cup Final/archive2|2003 CWC]] ==

I'm trying to give it a shot a the FAC. Would you be interested in participating at the PR? Thanks, <span style="white-space:nowrap;">&mdash;[[User:Vensatry|<font color = "indigo" >'''Vensatry'''</font>]] <sub> [[User talk:Vensatry|<font color = "Indigo" >'''(talk)'''</font>]] </sub></span> 09:47, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
:I will see what I can do. Travelling with work for a while, which is good and bad. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 21:54, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
::A gentle reminder! <span style="white-space:nowrap;">&mdash;[[User:Vensatry|<font color = "indigo" >'''Vensatry'''</font>]] <sub> [[User talk:Vensatry|<font color = "Indigo" >'''(talk)'''</font>]] </sub></span> 08:23, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

== FAC ==

Fellow-[[User:Gerda Arendt#Boxes|outcast]], can I interest you in my [[Komm, du süße Todesstunde, BWV 161|FAC]]? Congrats to your boat races, - when should that appear? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 13:11, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
:If I get a chance, I promise to take a look. If not, and in any case, good luck with the nom! [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 22:08, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

== Precious anniversary ==

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--[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 05:41, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
:Thanks Gerda. While I've had a little time on my hands as I'm away from home, I've found it difficult to apply it in large amounts, hence the usual quality checks of OTDs and DYKs on the main page. I'll try to get to the various reviews that folks have invited me to, although it may all go to ratshit once the canvassed masses have finished their assassination. We'll see. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 21:43, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

::Before that hits, can you pop over to [[Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of BLM Herd Management Areas/archive1]] and answer my questions there on your review? I fixed most of what you pinged, but I was flummoxed by a couple of things. [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 04:00, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

:::No, not guaranteed. I'm in South Africa at the moment, working, and travelling quite a bit. Arbcom have already got their juices heightened, and can't wait to sanction me off here probably before I get a chance to properly re-review this. It doesn't matter, I'm sure. The FLC delegates who know me and my work well will doubtless work around it. If I do get a chance, I will, but no promises. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 22:08, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

::::Understood. Chin up! [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 07:12, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

== Question ==

What does [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=G%C3%A9rard_Rondeau&type=revision&diff=739587813&oldid=739587793 this do] please? I am not familiar with this. Please ping me when you reply. Thank you.[[User:Zigzig20s|Zigzig20s]] ([[User talk:Zigzig20s|talk]]) 19:56, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

:{{tpw}} It adjusts the size of the columns of references according to screensize, so they display better on smaller screens (e.g. phones). See [[em (typography)]] for more specific info about it. The Wikipedia standard seems to be 30em for reflists. [[User:Joseph2302|<b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b>]][[User talk:Joseph2302|<b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b>]] 20:21, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
::Is this new? Why don't we just change the way the traditional Reflist looks in the first place?[[User:Zigzig20s|Zigzig20s]] ([[User talk:Zigzig20s|talk]]) 20:25, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
:::Yeah, good question, we should switch the reflist default to 30em. Please be my guest in suggesting that. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 21:34, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
::::Where?[[User:Zigzig20s|Zigzig20s]] ([[User talk:Zigzig20s|talk]]) 21:37, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::I have no idea. Try the Village Pump. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 21:40, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

== FYI ==

You helped with some edits, so FYI: [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Secretariat (horse)/archive1]]. [[User:Montanabw|<font color="006600">Montanabw</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Montanabw|(talk)]]</sup> 20:36, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

== Poke ==

I imagine you know this, but just to be certain, the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/The_Rambling_Man/Evidence|evidence phase of the TRM case]] is scheduled to close today. If you've decided to add evidence after all, now's the time. [[User:Opabinia regalis|Opabinia regalis]] ([[User talk:Opabinia regalis|talk]]) 21:04, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
:Yes, thank you. A number of people have talked to me about this. I've literally just stepped off a 12-hour flight from Johannesburg but thanks for your diligence, noted as a shining star in a biased and preloaded cesspit. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 05:29, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

== Dyrham Park ==

Thanks for the note re [[Dyrham Park]]. I've changed it to "in 1511" as that is when it was granted however the process (never completed) took longer.&mdash; [[User:Rodw|Rod]] <sup>[[User talk:Rodw|talk]]</sup> 06:40, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

==[[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Unlocked (Alexandra Stan album)/archive2|Featured article candidate: Unlocked (Alexandra Stan album)]]==
Hi there! My mean is not to bother you, but I was wondering if you could find time to comment on my FAC above and even support or oppose to it. {{smiley}} Best regards, [[User:Cartoon network freak|Cartoon network freak]] ([[User talk:Cartoon network freak|talk]]) 11:56, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

== "no clear inclusion or exclusion criteria"? ==

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=East_Orange_High_School&diff=740624035&oldid=740607950 Your recent edit] to the article for [[East Orange High School]] added a "famous" tag, which creates a message indicating that the list of individuals in the "Notable alumni" section has "no clear inclusion or exclusion criteria". Given the meanings of the words "[[WP:N|notable]]" and "[[alumni]]", the inclusion criteria would appear to be self evident and well defined. I could have added an introductory clause that states "the following list includes notable individuals who attended the school" -- and you could have added it for that matter to address your own concerns -- but isn't that exactly what the section title "Notable alumni" means? What should be added to address your issue? What article has a statement that meets your standard? [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 12:34, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
:Well, the {{tl|famous}} template exists for a reason, and the section to which I added it matches the template precisely. Our readers have no idea about the [[WP:N]] criteria, nor should they have to. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 12:38, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
:{{U|Alansohn}} Per your recent "edit summary" I have added the criteria ''I'' believe you have applied to this list. Of course, as already mentioned, our readers have no idea what "notable" means per Wikipedia policy, nor should they. Also, as already mentioned, we have {{tl|famous}} for a good reason. I'm surprised someone with your experience isn't fully commensurate with such an approach. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 20:16, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

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==Hi==
Yes, I can see your point. Atleast in the case of the Helene Ripa article. I have asked two users who is more used to editing DYK status articles to help. Hopefully their help can give the article some more meat on its bones. Any other suggestions or helpful tips concerning this matter? regards, [[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 21:37, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
:I have no problem with slim articles, just articles not written in English. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 21:38, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
::I do however have a track record with several articles that has passed DYK standard. Overall I do a great job. But everyone can absolutely fail at times. Regards.--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 22:02, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
:::But you are right about the fact that I could let other users review and help improve the articles before I nominate them.--[[User:BabbaQ|BabbaQ]] ([[User talk:BabbaQ|talk]]) 22:03, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
::::As I've already said, you could improve the article but it's not your fault the system has allowed it a free pass to nearly the main page. That's DYK's issue but apparently there isn't an issue there, just a problem with those that point out the problems. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 22:05, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

== On-this-day minor edit request ==

I maintain {{tl|convert}} and need to update the modules which implement it. Would you please replace the {{tlf|convert}} currently at [[Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/September 27]] so the modules are not cascade protected? Specifically, replace the first of the following lines with the second:
<pre>
{{convert|50|mi}} off the coast
50 miles (80&amp;nbsp;km) off the coast
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Thanks. [[User:Johnuniq|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq|talk]]) 23:53, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
:[[User:Johnuniq|Johnuniq]], I've made this change for you as a talk page stalker. [[User:Stephen|Step]][[User talk:Stephen|hen]] 02:05, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

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== [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/The Rambling Man|''The Rambling Man'']] arbitration proposed decision posted ==

A [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/The_Rambling_Man/Proposed_decision|proposed decision]] has been posted in the open [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/The Rambling Man|''The Rambling Man'']] arbitration page. Please review this decision and draw the arbitrators' attention to any relevant material or statements. Comments may be brought to the attention of the committee on the [[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/The Rambling Man/Proposed decision|proposed decision talk page]]. For a guide to the arbitration process, see [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration]]. If you are not a party, you may opt out of further notifications regarding this case at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/The Rambling Man/Mass Message List]]. For the Arbitration Committee, '''[[User:L235|Kevin]]''' (<small>aka</small> [[User:L235|L235]]&nbsp;'''·'''&#32; [[User talk:L235#top|t]]&nbsp;'''·'''&#32; [[Special:Contribs/L235|c]]) via [[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) 01:36, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
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*Wikipedia demonstrates its blindness to productive editors/admins, and eats its nose to spite its face.--[[User:WaltCip|WaltCip]] ([[User talk:WaltCip|talk]]) 17:33, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

== Skeletons? ==

I'm curious what you're trying to imply or insinuate with that comment, or why it was called for- referencing the admin's former nick was not an attempt to imply ''he'' has skeletons, I recall no bad behaviour from him under the old handle... [[User:Ribbet32|Ribbet32]] ([[User talk:Ribbet32|talk]]) 02:44, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

== :) ==

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bhalchandra_Dattatray_Mondhe&diff=742233065&oldid=742140351 :D] Thank you. [[User talk:Lourdes|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Lourdes'''</span>]] 14:01, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
:No worries, it was something that immediately stood out to me, I'm beginning to no longer be surprised that the DYK reviewers miss this stuff... [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 14:12, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
::Ha ha :) It wasn't the DYK reviewer. It was {{u|Yoninah}} who, while upping up the Dyk to prep, inadvertently changed the year in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bhalchandra_Dattatray_Mondhe&diff=742135508&oldid=740988899 this edit]. All's well, ends well. [[User talk:Lourdes|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Lourdes'''</span>]] 15:48, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Today's featured article/October 16, 2016]] ==

Hi TRM, I'm working on the TFA text now. - Dank ([[User talk:Dank|push to talk]]) 02:21, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
==DYK==
Firstly, I don't feel you should be desysopped and hope the outcome at the ArbCom case is favourable in this respect.

Secondly, I posted that table at the DYK discussion page because I wanted to put the record straight. People have been slandering me at DYK for months and Fram trying to have me topic banned made me very angry.

At the Queue page at DYK at the moment, there is nothing in the queue, and one prep set is filled. Prep 6 was filled by me yesterday and I propose to go and fill Prep 1 now. If Fram finds an error among the hooks in either of these two sets I will be blamed. Will that be fair? If I find that nobody has filled the next set by tomorrow morning, I will fill it. If someone else has done so, I will not need to. Do you understand? [[User:Cwmhiraeth|Cwmhiraeth]] ([[User talk:Cwmhiraeth|talk]]) 05:20, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
:Yes, of course I understand. I deliberately do not fill up sets because I don't think I can afford the time to check and re-check the sometimes mediocre stuff that's been promoted. I do my best to tidy up each and every aticle in each and every set, and sometimes, even a cursory glance reveals a glaring error which often surprises me. You don't need to be the only person building sets. If DYK goes late by a day, so what? Perhaps that will help educate people around the process and encourage others to get involved. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 05:59, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
::Thank you. I understand your point of view too and appreciate your DYK actions. However, I don't think that blaming people for promoting hooks at the DYK discussion page encourages other editors to build sets, quite the reverse. [[User:Cwmhiraeth|Cwmhiraeth]] ([[User talk:Cwmhiraeth|talk]]) 08:33, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
:::I'm not suggesting it does or should. Expectations need to be set, and that is that the error rate of DYK is ''way'' beyond where it should be. If that means the set-builders need to spend an hour on each article to ensure the hook is correct, so be it. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man#top|talk]]) 10:13, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

== A wikibeer for you ==

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Think you deserve "Wikipedia's Very Important Brew" for your diligence and patience in this mad, mad wiki-world. Thank you for all you do. Cheers. [[User:Hmlarson|Hmlarson]] ([[User talk:Hmlarson|talk]]) 18:46, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
:I think he needs something a bit stronger than that ;) anyone gotnything that's for external use only...?! [[User:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi|<sub>'''<font color="green">Muffled<font color="green"></font></font>'''</sub>]] <sup>'''''[[User talk:Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi|<font color="red">Pocketed</font>]]'''''</sup> 18:57, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
:: [https://www.thorne.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=5743&gclid=CODv-dq9wM8CFSIo0wod27oElA| These] work on planet earth, not sure if they've been tested in mad, mad wiki-world though. [[User:Edmund Patrick|Edmund Patrick]] &ndash;<small> [[User talk:Edmund Patrick|'''confer''']]</small> 06:08, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

I have attempted to cancel the order for the industrial sized vat of tar and the 3 tonnes <s>(is that metric or imperial?)</s> of feathers as best as I can. [[User:Ritchie333|<b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b>]] [[User talk:Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)</sup>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ritchie333|<sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)</sup>]] 10:25, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

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