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The Massacre

Hello as the article has almost no reference I had difficulty see what actually happened. I found this [1] and this [2] clearly refutes only men of Mazrik tribe were killed. Second source is in Turkish. Thanks Abbatai 15:42, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"radikal.com.tr" and "turkish coalition of america" are not academic sources. And evidentially you learned nothing about the irriliability of WP:PRIMARY sources from Defense of Van, assuming that isn't fake. --Oatitonimly (talk) 23:58, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ohh really? Mihran Kurdoghlian's book is the only source there which is not a third part source. When it is Armenian it is reliable but Turkish not. Hilarious logic! Article seems pure propaganda. What about moving it to "Khanasor Massacre"? Thanks --Abbatai 10:11, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I propose the restore pervious Turkish source and add POV tag. Thanks --Abbatai 10:36, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Abbatai: Can you please provide any information pertaining to where Ayse Hur is getting this information from? And from what I understand, Hur says "gece yarısı kör ateşinde" meaning that that the shooting took place in the darkness of the night and the Tasnak's didn't know that the Kurdish combatants left the village, effectively leaving behind only women and children. Apparently, since they couldn't see at night, women and children may have accidentally been killed which means this was an accident and there was no intention to kill women and children, that is if this event actually happened. In your edit, however, you make it appear as if the Armenians had an intent to killed women and children. Care to explain? Étienne Dolet (talk) 22:57, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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	:::I propose the restore pervious Turkish source and add POV tag. Thanks --[[User:Abbatai\|Abbatai]] 10:36, 24 January 2017 (UTC)		:::I propose the restore pervious Turkish source and add POV tag. Thanks --[[User:Abbatai\|Abbatai]] 10:36, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

			::::{{ping\|Abbatai}} Can you please provide any information pertaining to where Ayse Hur is getting this information from? And from what I understand, Hur says "'''gece yarısı kör ateşinde'''" meaning that that the shooting took place in the darkness of the night and the Tasnak's didn't know that the Kurdish combatants left the village, effectively leaving behind only women and children. Apparently, since they couldn't see at night, women and children may have accidentally been killed which means this was an accident and there was no intention to kill women and children, that is if this event actually happened. In your [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Khanasor_Expedition&diff=775309894&oldid=748654679 edit], however, you make it appear as if the Armenians had an intent to killed women and children. Care to explain? [[User:EtienneDolet\|Étienne Dolet]] ([[User talk:EtienneDolet\|talk]]) 22:57, 15 April 2017 (UTC)