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Antonia Bennett

Fails WP:Music. No charted hits, no albums, no major awards. Press coverage is either minor (a one-line cabaret review) or incidental (mentioned in an article on her father). She may make it someday, but hasn't yet. I will see what I can merge into her father's article. Robert A.West (Talk) 00:31, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Firstly allow me to state that this subject meets WP:MUSIC. She has gone on a national concert tour in the U.S.A. The evidence is in this webpage. However, I am not sure if the David Award for entertainment is a major award, but if it is, then she deserves an article of her own. On top of this, she was also a guest at the White House with President Bush, Tony Bennett, Robert Redford, and Tina Turner. If one is a guest at the White House, does that automatically make the subject notable? The article also has a few references and this makes it an even stronger candidate for its inclusion. Finally, the potential of this article to be expanded is strong as well. --S iva1979^{Talk to me} 01:43, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Plenty of Google results confirm notability, such as this or this.--Húsönd 01:53, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and redirect to Tony Bennett. She's achieved nothing more than many other aspiring jazz singers with great talent but much less notability. GassyGuy 03:13, 16 October 2006 (UTC) Changing to neutral in light of sources below. GassyGuy 05:52, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep actually, the cited articles are terrible sources, since they are all self refernced (they are either created by Ms. Bennet or in support of her own commercial ventures". Still, this review in a major newspaper and this other review and this one too show that she does rate on independant press. She shows up outside of self-promotion, then she is probably notable. Incedenatlly, many more articles like this can be found on a google search. --Jayron32 04:01, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The "sources" provided are either press releases or trivial mentions. The Las Vegas Tribune article [1] is primarily about her father, with a paragraph stating that Ms. Bennett is also performing in his show. The "jazzimprov.com" reference [2] is about an entirely different performer, Ada Rovatti, with mentions that she has performed with Bennett. The Cape Cod Online article was again primarily about Tony Bennett, with a minor paragraph at the end about how his daughter came on stage during the performance to sing two songs. [3]. She has never recorded anything, and a Google search on "Antonia Bennett" only brings up about 1,200 hits [4]. There just isn't enough verification of notability to warrant a separate article at this time. If she ever records a CD that has relatively decent sales, this article can be re-created, but for now, I say either delete it, or merge it into her father's article. --Elonka 10:28, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Though this is the first formal AfD, be aware that this article was previously deleted by someone from the Wikipedia main office, as a vanity page. So this one that we're debating right now is a re-post. [5]. --Elonka 10:28, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Madchen Hoch 22:03, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, verifabily meets WP:MUSIC. --badlydrawnjeff talk 18:37, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I 100% agree with the person who wrote "according to Frank Sinatra her father is the greatest singing legend of all time, she has been singing for over 20 years, she is all over Google. I saw her perform on the Today show and The Regis & Kelly Show. If you look on google you will see she sings all over the country. Amazon sells the CD she did with Tom Wopat and another website states her new CD is coming out soon. Plus, she is very young to have accomplished all this! I believe the Today show, The Regis & Kelly Show, The White House, New York Times, Tony Bennett, Tom Wopat, etc. are all not crazy for supporting her
- CommentI don't think achieving notability through "piggybacking" is a WP:BIO or WP:MUSIC offense. That she she has talent or not is POV and has nothing to do with qualifying for an article (I say dump Ashlee Simpson by those standards!) --Marriedtofilm 22:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I was going to say merge, but per Húsönd and seeing references, my mind was changed. --Marriedtofilm 22:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Keep''', verifabily meets WP:MUSIC. --[[User:Badlydrawnjeff|badlydrawnjeff]] <small>[[User_talk:Badlydrawnjeff|talk]]</small> 18:37, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 *'''Keep''' I 100% agree with the person who wrote "according to Frank Sinatra her father is the greatest singing legend of all time, she has been singing for over 20 years, she is all over Google. I saw her perform on the Today show and The Regis & Kelly Show. If you look on google you will see she sings all over the country. Amazon sells the CD she did with Tom Wopat and another website states her new CD is coming out soon. Plus, she is very young to have accomplished all this! I believe the Today show, The Regis & Kelly Show, The White House, New York Times, Tony Bennett, Tom Wopat, etc. are all not crazy for supporting her
-*'''DELETE*''': she's piggybacking on her father's fame. he just had a CD out, and didnt include her , not in a single song!!!, that should tell us why she hasnt made it in the bussiness. she has no talent , imagine even thought  she is been signing with her father since she's 4, that means she has been at this for over 30 years and hasnt made it . she only comes up in google searches when she is in some sort of function in  which her father is either a guest or a host. no credit of her own. i strongly recommend deletion of this entry.
 **'''Comment'''I don't think achieving notability through "piggybacking" is a WP:BIO or WP:MUSIC offense.  That she she has talent or not is POV and has nothing to do with qualifying for an article (I say dump [[Ashlee Simpson]] by those standards!) --[[User:Marriedtofilm|Marriedtofilm]] 22:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 *'''Keep''' I was going to say merge, but per Húsönd and seeing references, my mind was changed. --[[User:Marriedtofilm|Marriedtofilm]] 22:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)