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However strongly you feel about something, including the edits of others, there is no excuse for bad language on WP, and it is also bad practice to shout in capitals. You are politely requested to review your behaviour, please. MapReader (talk) 06:21, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring report

USE THE DAMNED TALK PAGE and discuss once you're reverted is good advice. Why aren't you doing that on Wayward Pines? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 13:22, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please answer here or at the noticeboard. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 23:38, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You know, Neil, I wasn't going to, but then I got to thinking about you as an admin. You've always been available, played it straight and been fair, so you deserve an answer. In a word, it's futility. MapReader is rather officious, but he/she is also new, doesn't read with comprehension, and needs to learn the basics. I can cut him some slack for that. The caps had the intended effect and got his/her attention.

Alex, on the other hand, is a different story. Once upon a time, he was a great editor: eager, personable, flexible, knowledgeable, willing to work with others. I could easily have seen him become a well-respected admin in those days. Sadly, they're over. Now he's Mr. Bossy Rules, spraying WP:THIS and WP:THAT at editors, biting newbies, unwilling to yield and always needing to be right, punctuating this points with mean-spirited edit summaries. He turned on me with a spate of insults; for the longest time I thought it would pass, and for a time he'll be more civil, until The Rules According to Alex are broken once again, and the snark, ugliness and judgment so typical of his "collaboration" these days are back. Worst of all, he uses the drama boards (ANI and AN3) like bludgeons to bring editors into line. Yet how many times is he on the other side of the edit wars he's so busy reporting and WP'ing? This isn't about the best interest of any given article. It's about winning. He's still stuck on a discussion held months ago; since then, Fox has had its upfronts and the TV media have uniformly lists Wayward Pines as canceled. I provided a current source to that effect, which should have been sufficient. But he won't let go. And that, and that alone, is why we find ourselves here.

It's hard enough to be a woman on WP without being bullied by men who want to win at all costs. In transactional analysis, there is a process called "gunny-sacking", where a person in a relationship of any sort stores up every perceived sin committed by another and throws them back at the perceived offender. That's typical of Alex. And look at the way he's tried to corner me and force me to do what he wants with this incident. The only way to deal with him is not to deal with him. I'm a hit-and-run editor who is on for short bursts of time, and I don't have the time, the will, or the inclination to go around and around in circles, being gunny-sacked and WP'd all the while, until he badgers me into giving up.

So, Neil, there's your answer. It probably violates two or three WP's; I'll take the knocks if it does, but at least it's honest, and long needed to be said. No one else needs reply. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 03:06, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

All editors, regardless of gender, are expected to follow the same Wikipedia processes. And despite what you've said above, the reason why we're here is because of your failure to respond to Alex on the talk page (something you're quick to point to when you revert an editor whose change you disagree with). If you don't have time to deal with good-faith objections to your edits you really have two choices: 1) Stop making the edits. 2) Wait until you do have the time to engage other editors. You do have a third choice as well. If you think Alex is tendentiously editing then present your case at WP:ANI. But please do not simply revert and refuse to discuss because you don't have the time or the will. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:15, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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	:: So, Neil, there's your answer. It probably violates two or three WP's; I'll take the knocks if it does, but at least it's honest, and long needed to be said. No one else needs reply. --<span style="font-variant:small-caps; text-shadow:blue 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">--<font color="blue">Dr.</font><font color="red">Margi</font></span> [[User talk:Drmargi#top\|<big>✉</big>]] 03:06, 1 June 2018 (UTC)		:: So, Neil, there's your answer. It probably violates two or three WP's; I'll take the knocks if it does, but at least it's honest, and long needed to be said. No one else needs reply. --<span style="font-variant:small-caps; text-shadow:blue 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em">--<font color="blue">Dr.</font><font color="red">Margi</font></span> [[User talk:Drmargi#top\|<big>✉</big>]] 03:06, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
			:::All editors, '''regardless of gender''', are expected to follow the same Wikipedia processes. And despite what you've said above, the reason why we're here is because of your failure to respond to Alex on the talk page (something you're quick to point to when you revert an editor whose change you disagree with). If you don't have time to deal with good-faith objections to your edits you really have two choices: 1) Stop making the edits. 2) Wait until you do have the time to engage other editors. You do have a third choice as well. If you think Alex is [[WP:TE\|tendentiously editing]] then present your case at [[WP:ANI]]. But please do not simply revert and refuse to discuss because you don't have the time or the will. --[[User:NeilN\|<b style="color:navy">Neil<span style="color:red">N</span></b>]] <sup>[[User talk:NeilN\|<i style="color:blue">talk to me</i>]]</sup> 14:15, 1 June 2018 (UTC)