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::::Well you say "Googling frenzy" but all I did was google "Cosplay Warrior Cutie Knight" in Japanese and looked at all the stuff on the first page of results and you're missing my point (I guess the point could be made that I just can't stop finding links that prove he worked on it but I guess that doesn't matter either). I'm not trying to make a new article for it I just wanted it credited on the mans page. All the sellers, not just the one you focused on, all the sellers for the DVD list him as the director, are you saying they're wrong? And Kinenotes lists it as a V-Cinema, him as a director, and that it was in production in 1996, giving you the information for what you asked and making it his final work unlike what is currently stated as his final work. This also isn't Simple Wikipedia we don't have to leave out Directors projects just because they weren't in theaters. We should take out the Ultraman 80 and Zaborger information then, that's pretty trivial. Kinenotes is a fine source, unless you can find a problem with it. [[Special:Contributions/96.74.105.129|96.74.105.129]] ([[User talk:96.74.105.129#top|talk]]) 23:15, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
::::Well you say "Googling frenzy" but all I did was google "Cosplay Warrior Cutie Knight" in Japanese and looked at all the stuff on the first page of results and you're missing my point (I guess the point could be made that I just can't stop finding links that prove he worked on it but I guess that doesn't matter either). I'm not trying to make a new article for it I just wanted it credited on the mans page. All the sellers, not just the one you focused on, all the sellers for the DVD list him as the director, are you saying they're wrong? And Kinenotes lists it as a V-Cinema, him as a director, and that it was in production in 1996, giving you the information for what you asked and making it his final work unlike what is currently stated as his final work. This also isn't Simple Wikipedia we don't have to leave out Directors projects just because they weren't in theaters. We should take out the Ultraman 80 and Zaborger information then, that's pretty trivial. Kinenotes is a fine source, unless you can find a problem with it. [[Special:Contributions/96.74.105.129|96.74.105.129]] ([[User talk:96.74.105.129#top|talk]]) 23:15, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
::::What makes Kinenotes a reliable source? How do they gather their information? [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 00:13, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
::::What makes Kinenotes a reliable source? How do they gather their information? [[User:Andrzejbanas|Andrzejbanas]] ([[User talk:Andrzejbanas|talk]]) 00:13, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
:::::Japanese movie database. Various Japanese official sources. I'm gonna add it now since we both acknowledge the information is real. [[Special:Contributions/96.74.105.129|96.74.105.129]] ([[User talk:96.74.105.129#top|talk]]) 16:02, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

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Noriaki Yuasa

Hello Anonymous. Its not a matter of whether the content is published on other wikis or blogs, I do believe what you are stating is truth, however, you require a reliable source as that is the standard of wikipedia. As I believe it to be true as you do, its more of the matter that what you have is considered original research, which we do not publish on wikipedia. So if you can find something that follows the rules of WP:RS, I would share it again on the article.

Also, thanks for pointing out the other television bits not having information. I added them myself before, but it appears the citation has moved. I have re-added sources for it. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:04, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It just feels like bullying if you won't include it as a good faith edit when you admit it exists. [1] there's even a video. It's his final work so is that really not important enough to include on the Wikipedia page to you? Is there really no clause on Wikipedia that when there's enough evidence for something it should be mentioned even if there's no "appropriate" evidence for it? It really feels like suppression of information when the evidence of it exists everywhere EXCEPT American Wikipedia. And I'm not some random anonymous troll either, I normally take unsourced things out of wiki articles and challenge people trying to include it for no reason, but in this instance there's just so much evidence that I can't help but feel the need to state why I think it should be included. Like, I even think I see his name is on the back of the DVD, if I could just get a HD version of it! Couldn't you have just put a "citation needed" after it? 96.74.105.129 (talk) 19:52, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I do feel its important to include, but this is an encyclopedia and you require a source. I believe it exists but you have no sources (neither does the Japanese wikipedia by the way) on whether its his last film or his involvement. Was it theatrical? Who released it, when? Whats the context? I don't mind trying to do some more thorough research to get the information including it, but just leaving it in with "oh i'll get a source later" is not good enough. The Onus is on you to include information you want by finding appropriate sources. I am not trying to bully you, I just want (and I'm sure you want it as well) to follow the standards of Wikipedia. omAndrzejbanas (talk) 20:06, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
http://www.kinenote.com/main/public/cinema/detail.aspx?cinema_id=50300 what about this source then that lists him as a director? Or either of these pages that list the item for sale that also list him as the director https://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/134000064 https://7net.omni7.jp/detail/1400035323 ? It's likely the reason the Japanese Wikipedia article itself doesn't list a source is just because they can just Google the name and see him listed as the director for it on any product page, just like they also don't provide sources for any of the Gamera films he worked on. Although, you have to check the Japanese Gamera page to see that he included Gamera cameos in it (I realize that twitter video isn't a good source, so I didn't include that in my second attempt to edit it). There's lots of links to buying the DVD that show him listed as director, are these not acceptable sources (or the first link?), or do I really just have to find an American book that says it? 96.74.105.129 (talk) 20:24, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the websites you mention it sounds like you are going into a googling frenzy to find sources for the article. You tell me if they follow WP:RS, can you find any information on how the websites gather their information? The last one appears to be an online shop which probably isn't notable. I tried to look at Kinenote, but could not find any information on how their information is gathered. It doesn't matter the language, but it would be easier for an English one. Also, these sources just sort of state that title, a production year and not much else. So far the info seems trivial. Was this for tv? Video? theatres? Some context would help people. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:43, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Well you say "Googling frenzy" but all I did was google "Cosplay Warrior Cutie Knight" in Japanese and looked at all the stuff on the first page of results and you're missing my point (I guess the point could be made that I just can't stop finding links that prove he worked on it but I guess that doesn't matter either). I'm not trying to make a new article for it I just wanted it credited on the mans page. All the sellers, not just the one you focused on, all the sellers for the DVD list him as the director, are you saying they're wrong? And Kinenotes lists it as a V-Cinema, him as a director, and that it was in production in 1996, giving you the information for what you asked and making it his final work unlike what is currently stated as his final work. This also isn't Simple Wikipedia we don't have to leave out Directors projects just because they weren't in theaters. We should take out the Ultraman 80 and Zaborger information then, that's pretty trivial. Kinenotes is a fine source, unless you can find a problem with it. 96.74.105.129 (talk) 23:15, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
What makes Kinenotes a reliable source? How do they gather their information? Andrzejbanas (talk) 00:13, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Japanese movie database. Various Japanese official sources. I'm gonna add it now since we both acknowledge the information is real. 96.74.105.129 (talk) 16:02, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]