User talk:11tas

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11tas/sandbox

Hello, 11tas. I've moved your sandbox from the article namespace to a user subpage of yours, so it's now located at User:11tas/sandbox. Please see Wikipedia:Subpage#How to create user subpages for more information. Thanks, Sango123 19:15, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

NBA to National Basketball Association changes

While there is generally no need to go around "fixing" redirects, I have no objection to your doing so. However, I must suggest that an Edit Summary of "rv" is less than helpful. Something like "Changing NBA to National Basketball Association to avoid redirect" or something of that nature would be far more informative to other editors reviewing your work. Alansohn 03:02, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Your edit summaries

Repeatedly using the same comment as an edit summary seems rather disruptive. Do not disrupt Wikipedia to make a point. Someone offered you a suggestion, and was not malicious or insulting in doing so. You do not have to repeat it dozens of times. Fan-1967 03:32, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree I found two of your edit summaries on articles on my watchlist and could not see what on earth they referred to. Now you are back to using just "rv" as the edit summary. This is incorrect as you are not reverting anything, you are fixing redirects. I agree with Fan-1967 that this looks a lot like disruption. Please stop it and start using meaningful edit summaries. Thanks, Gwernol 03:38, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

"rv" means "reverted" or "removed vandalism" on Wikipedia. Please stop using edit summaries that are disruptive.Dogface 17:17, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Please stop!

You've been warned not to use the "rv" as your edit summary. Then you were warned now to use the full, lengthy summary you were using. Now you're back to the "rv". Please stop! Consider using something like "Pipelining NBA to National Basketball Association". However, as it has been said, there is NO reason for you to be doing this since NBA automatically goes to National Basketball Association as it is. Metros232 03:36, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

If you want a simple edit summary, why not just use DAB? It's the usual abbreviation for disambiguating links. "rv" is normally used to mean you're reverting the previous edit, which is not what you're doing. Fan-1967 03:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

This is your final warning. If you continue to conduct such edits and ignore the comments on your talk page, you will be temporarily blocked from editing. Metros232 03:40, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

bot testing --11tas 03:42, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

So your edits are from a bot (which I assumed as they were coming really quickly and are often used for tedious work like that)? Metros232 03:49, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to make inappropriate or abusive edit summaries or comments, you may be blocked from editing. I had the same confusion as other editors and it is disruptive. --Robb0995 03:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Your bot runs awfully fast. How come there isn't "using AWB" in the edit summary? Royalbroil ^T : C 03:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Royalbroil, I don't think this is an approved AWB-user. This seems to be the user's own, independent bot. Metros232 03:52, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I was just about to point that out. Is that permitted? Royalbroil ^T : C 03:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

If you guys are going to talk to each other please move the discussion to another page. This is my personal user talk page. --11tas 03:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

This is an appropriate forum to discuss your actions. Please explain why you appear to be running an unauthorized bot. This is not allowed. If you wish to run a bot, please seek approval first. Thanks, Gwernol 04:01, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Well could you please address the issues we've raised? What is the scope of this bot? Have you seeked approval? Have you received approval? Metros232 04:00, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Really. Can you at least answer the questions about your bot and why you do not seem to be adhereing to Wikipedia:Bot policy? That might be more helpful than adding terse, snotty comments to those whom you've disrupted. --Robb0995 04:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

The one thing that I love about Wikipedia is that you can't erase edit summaries LOL. They'll be there for eternity. --11tas 00:01, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Blocked for 15 minutes

As you have decided to continue to use disruptive and misleading edit summaries, I have blocked you from editing for a short period. Please take the time to consider the good advise from multiple editors above. When your block expires you are welcome to continue making constructive contributions to Wikipedia but if you continue to use misleading edit summaries you are likely to be blocked for a longer period. Thanks, Gwernol 03:41, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

List of twins

Thank you for your recent update. However, your lengthy comment should have been directed at my talk page. Had someone else done some other edit on this article after you, and before I visited my watch list, I wouldn't have seen "While there is generally no need to go around 'fixing' redirects, I have no objection to your doing so. However, I must suggest that an Edit Summary of 'rv' is less than helpful. Something like 'Changing NBA to National Basketball Association to avoi)". I agree, "RV" is less than appropriate, although if you were to look through my contributions, that's a rare slip for me (what I did at this article was simply to revert a nonsense add, and my energies were spent on placing a welcome on that user's (IP adress/anonymous) talk page. I had edited this article twice before with "complete" comments. As for my fixing redirects - you might be looking at my recent contributions, where I'm completely reworking an article and the redirect fix is part of the the reworking, those comments being there for a colleague who is assisting me. Fwgoebel 04:33, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I have to add further comment (and an apology). I had honestly thought that the comment was directed at me, because I did do a "RV" comment immediately before (to remove vandalism) (check out the article's history to see). Tight before the edit in question was placed, I had done a few redirect fixes in my own sandbox. Because of this coincidence, I wrote this to explain myself. Well, no need to completely re-write everything. But as an observation: When a topic is started in a user's talk page, all responses (regardless of whom they're from) should stay on that same talk page, so anyone reading a statement knows the entire context of the thread. Fwgoebel 04:42, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

"rv" could mean a lot of things, you think it means "revert". I don't agree. Since when is that an official abbreviation here at Wikipedia? I have my own definition. --11tas 00:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

• Care to enlighten us as to what your definition of rv is? Metros232 00:05, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

You have fun selling that when and if you go through the official process of getting your bot approved. 'rv' is clearly a commonly accepted term that refers to reversion. If you meant something else, I'd hope by now it's clear to you that no one else got it. BTW, in addition to defining 'rv' for us, maybe you could explain what you meant by the long quote. How was that supposed to help the project? --Robb0995 02:16, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

It would be good to review the content at Help:Reverting#How to revert. About halfway through this section appears the "rv" notation and how it's used. Granted this article is more of a "how-to" on reverting, I'm mentioning this particular section to illustrate this common abbreviation. The aim here is simply to educate a fellow user, nothing more. Fwgoebel 05:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Just because it's common doesn't mean it's correct. People commonly think Hitler was German, when in actuality he was Austrian. As for the meaning of "rv" for me, you should try a little bit harder to guess. If I give you the answer it's too easy for you. --11tas 01:26, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

The problem is that edit summaries aren't for you, they are for everyone else. I may think "0837" makes perfect sense as a code for "corrected typos" but why would I use a secretive, uncommon code when my objective is to communicate with others? Again, I suggest this because I think you'll run into trouble during the approval process for your bot if you really want to use your own code in the edit summary. --Robb0995 05:15, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

My edit summaries are for me and not for anyone else. If they want to know what I changed, they could go to the history page. If they don't have time or can't be bothered to do that, that's their own problem, not mine. I don't need any approval for my bot. Seeking for approval is slave mentality. I am not a slave. --11tas 09:09, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Use of edit Summary

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