Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Saff V.

Saff V.

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29 March 2021

– An SPI clerk has requested administrator assistance for action regarding the case below. The requested action is below.

Suspected sockpuppets

• Ghazaalch (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

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On 19 February 2020 - @Saff V.: is topic-banned from editing the People's Mujahedin of Iran page (where they had been very involved).

On 11 September 2020 - @Ghazaalch: becomes active, and then starts getting very involved in People's Mujahedin of Iran with the same POV emphasis and editing patterns as Saff V:

• Same use of the word “summery” (“summary”?):

1. Saff V. [1] [2]
2. Ghazaalch [3]

• Same use of the term “picking up” (“removing”?)

1. Saff V. [4] [5]
2. Ghazaalch [6] [7]

• Same POV emphasis on sexual abuse and human rights violations at People's Mujahedin of Iran:

1. Saff V. [8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17]
2. Ghazaalch creating a whole article that focuses on that:[18][19]

• Same POV emphasis to signalize the People's Mujahedin of Iran as a cult:

1. Saff V. [20][21][22]
2. Ghazaalch[23][24][25][26]

• Same POV emphasis to say People's Mujahedin of Iran had links to Israel:

1. Saff V. [27] [28]
2. Ghazaalch [29][30]

• Same POV emphasis on ideological revolution at People's Mujahedin of Iran:

1. Saff V. [31][32][33]
2. Ghazaalch[34][35][36]

• Attempts to add that the People's Mujahedin of Iran is Islamic-Marxist:

1. Saff V. [37]
2. Ghazaalch [38] Barca (talk) 13:33, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

It was Ghazaalch's use of the phrase "picking up" (to say "removing")[39] [40] that confirmed for me these are both the same user since this phrase is not used by any other editor to say "removing", and it's something that Saff V. used to say all the time at People's Mujahedin of Iran:[41][42] [43][44][45][46][47][48][49] Barca (talk) 23:27, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Another courtesy ping to @Ghazaalch: (in case they want to respond but missed the first ping). Barca (talk) 11:51, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

• @Blablubbs: The behavioral evidence is reasonably convincing to me. Nonetheless, I would recommend a CU. The topic is rife with battleground editing, and it's not uncommon for users (many of whom do not speak English as a native language) to mimic each other's behavior. Also, if this is sockpuppetry, a check for sleepers is likely justified. I would recommend an indef for Ghazaalch in any case. Sanctions on Saff V. should probably depend on the results of a CU. Vanamonde (Talk) 16:12, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

• This case is being reviewed by Blablubbs as part of the clerk training process. Please allow him to process the entire case without interference, and pose any questions or concerns either on his talk page or on this page if more appropriate.
  Clearly the same person based on the filing and follow-ups.  Awaiting administrative action – this is deliberate evasion of a sanction, so indefinite blocks for both are warranted. Courtesy ping to Vanamonde93 who imposed the TBAN. Blablubbs|talk 12:39, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

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