Talk:Melodic death metal

The Black Dahlia Murder are not melodic death metal

They clearly flow in the metalcore vein for their fairly simple hardcore-fused song structures and breakdowns; while they have opened for bands that could easily pass as death metal or melodic death metal, that does not make them one. This band being on the list makes equal sense as about a zillion other bands being on the list that sound just like them (As I Lay Dying, The Red Chord, The Red Death, Between The Eyes of the Dead, etc.) but obviously belong in the metalcore/hardcore category. Danteferno 12:40, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

This is a very old discussion of what label to put on a given band; this is certainly non-trivial for most bands especially in the crossover styles and it's typically hated by the bands themself. There just isn't a checklist that you can use to determine which band belongs in what category and hence this discussion will always be POV. Spearhead 16:20, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Opeth

Any reason they (weren't) listed?

Amon Amarth are not melodic death metal

They are viking metal. It might seem to make sense to put them in melodic death metal but if you compare them with someone like Children of Bodom or In Flames (older in flames) its clearly not their style. They are closer to normal death.

Just because Amon Amarth have lyrics about Viking/Norse themes doesn't necessarily mean they're Viking metal. Viking metal is a specific sub-genre of black metal. They're more aggressive than Children Of Bodom and In Flames, but I'd still say they're melodic death metal, not death metal.

Carcass are not melodic death metal

Carcass are the progenitors of the grindcore, especially goregrind, sound, and are in no way a melodic death metal band. Some of their later releases moved to a "traditional" heavy metal sound which is, granted, more melodic, but not at all melodic death metal.

Children Of Bodom

Don't you think Children Of Bodom should be added to the list?

CoB use fetch most of their influence from Power Metal and Black Metal. If you check the composition of their music, and of the bands lyrical themes. They share very little connection with Death Metal, bar minor use of Death Metal esque parts in riffs, in some songs. Thus, they dont warrant a place here. Leyasu 06:17, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Why does CoB not belong if their page says that they play melodic death metal? Some sort consensus ought to be reached on this, because right now there's a difference that's sort of confusing. RufusX 01:19, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Please do not go around distorting information. The article says they play a HYBRID genre, which is true. --Sn0wflake 02:59, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

What they play Rufus, is a somewhat mix of Power Metal and Symphonic Black Metal. Added is minor Death Metal influence. Thank you however for pointing this problem out, im sure i or another will adress this problem shortly. Leyasu 05:18, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Symphonic black metal? What does Children of Bodom have in their style apart from keyboards (which do not even use symphonic arrangements) that in any way relates to that genre? --Sn0wflake 06:41, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

When i wrote that i was half distracted, i meant to say Melodic Black Metal. Thus is the power of my beautifull but devious lady Hannah for you. Leyasu 07:15, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

My apologies for the Bodom page - it was late and I was edit happy. This however is a full on contradiction, so someone who feels more authorative about it should probably make fixes instead of silly newbies... Apologies! Apologies! RufusX 09:27, 1 January 2006 (UTC)