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I frequently advise Mattisse not to post in haste as this can create unnecessary problems and work. I extend this advice to all, including myself and other advisors. Let us comment with consideration and aim for mutual understanding. ''[[User talk:Geometry guy|Geometry guy]]'' 20:18, 18 January 2010 (UTC) |
I frequently advise Mattisse not to post in haste as this can create unnecessary problems and work. I extend this advice to all, including myself and other advisors. Let us comment with consideration and aim for mutual understanding. ''[[User talk:Geometry guy|Geometry guy]]'' 20:18, 18 January 2010 (UTC) |
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: OK, good; I'm glad this worked as a guinea pig incident for getting the kinks out. If any of us had known sooner that Mattisse was concerned about an FA drive and being excluded from that, while I was responding to Moni about developing a guideline, we might have avoided all of this. I hope we can view it as a guinea pig case for how the mentoring pages work, and move on, but I still think it would be helpful if any issues were moved to the Monitoring page in the future, instead of spreading across talk pages. Thanks for everything, [[User:SandyGeorgia|Sandy<font color="green">Georgia</font>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]]) 20:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC) |
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==Comments on Monitoring Alert== |
==Comments on Monitoring Alert== |
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Typos and corrections needed
Per this edit, there is a typo (FAR) in the DYK section. Also, both this and the Monitoring page indicate that "Notifying YellowMonkey (or Art La Pella) was accepted by Arbcom as a monitoring method"; I have never seen any finding or indication or diff to back that up, and absent one, it should be removed. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:48, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- Also, a reminder that mentors should maintain the log here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:51, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Suggestions
Three issues as a result of me being the first guinea pig to use this page:
- Can the pre-load be added directly to the section where alerts are posted? I missed it the first time through and had to re-do my submission.
- Why is the Monitoring page gone, considering Motions 9 and 11? I suggest a return to the Monitoring page would have avoided the need for this alert.
- Mattisse entered a diff to a discussion on Moni3's talk page that I had never seen before and was uninvolved in, and had nothing to do with this issue whatsoever. But as I recall, I'm not supposed to respond to responses on the alert page, to avoid escalating. So where would I enter that feedback?
Can the page be adjusted to reflect these issues? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:06, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- A fourth point. Silktork just entered a comment that needs my feedback. I'm not sure where I would add that? Can we get the page format corrrected? I'll wait, since this is the first use of this page. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:08, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- Or am I intended to add responses to my original alert? I'm unclear on this, so will wait for feedback from y'all before adding anything else. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:15, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- G guy, the redirect that led to my confusion is here, in Motion 9; the User:Mattisse/Monitoring there is a redirect to this Alerts page (needs fixin' :) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:41, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- Or am I intended to add responses to my original alert? I'm unclear on this, so will wait for feedback from y'all before adding anything else. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:15, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
I will fix that. Concerning your other comments...
- It was an oversight to leave in the section "Issues reported to mentors" (and its edit link) in place. Thanks for removing it: I have replaced it instead with another link to start a new section.
- For the record, I think we are agreed that WP:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Mattisse/Monitoring exists. I hope arbitrators and clerks will not object to the links we added to the Case.
- It is inappropriate for Mattisse to edit alerts, and I have removed her comment. The point is indeed to avoid escalation.
- The natural place to comment on alerts is here on the alert talk page. I have separated your reassurances and concerns into a separate section.
I frequently advise Mattisse not to post in haste as this can create unnecessary problems and work. I extend this advice to all, including myself and other advisors. Let us comment with consideration and aim for mutual understanding. Geometry guy 20:18, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- OK, good; I'm glad this worked as a guinea pig incident for getting the kinks out. If any of us had known sooner that Mattisse was concerned about an FA drive and being excluded from that, while I was responding to Moni about developing a guideline, we might have avoided all of this. I hope we can view it as a guinea pig case for how the mentoring pages work, and move on, but I still think it would be helpful if any issues were moved to the Monitoring page in the future, instead of spreading across talk pages. Thanks for everything, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Comments on Monitoring Alert
In the meantime, if it will help calm Mattisse, I was completely unaware of any potential FA drive, and my "congratulations" on Moni3's talk page were specifically about her return to editing (following some earlier comments and a semi-break she had taken) via a new niche of carving out a guideline for similar articles, and were unrelated to any potential FA drive. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:20, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
- Another reason I think it important to use the Monitoring page is that Mattisse has repeatedly asked, and repeatedly been supplied with, a link to the 36-hour ban, but still says she can't find it. Registering such info on a Monitoring page might be easier for all involved. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:57, 18 January 2010 (UTC)