User talk:SandyGeorgia

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Something beautiful for the holidays[edit]

New year[edit]

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Nollaig shona duit
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Best new year to my favourite crusader. You cant win them all Sandy, but god bless for trying. You have been missed. Ceoil (talk) 19:39, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Manual of Style - invitation to comment[edit]

Subsequent to my posting on Wikipedia talk:Featured article criteria I have sand-boxed and revised the Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Mathematics/sandbox pages. Can I ask you to comment on this page, as I know you would need to refer to it when doing a FA review. What needs to be done to the the page to make it easier to use? Maths has 25 FAs what needs to be done to MOS/Mathematic to make them more achievable?-- Clem Rutter (talk) 17:54, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For your work with students on Anorexia nervosa. Stuartyeates (talk) 22:35, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Stuartyeates, nice timing and deeply appreciated :) :) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:37, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Hey, I just came here for exactly the same reason. Alright, *checks list of barnstars* it looks like you haven't received one of these in a while. :-)

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For your tireless effort in helping student editors contribute to Wikipedia. Sunrise (talk) 21:55, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
Why thanks so much, Sunrise; the encouragement is most welcome! Some day, I may get lucky and a student will stick around to help with the heavy lifting :) Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:13, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Stable wikipedia[edit]

Here. You have done stellar work on peer review processes here. I would be interested in your view. Peter Damian (talk) 08:02, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words, Peter Damian, but I'm not sure I want to get involved in a back-and-forth at Talk Jimbo. With declining resources in here, I would suggest focusing discussion of a stable Wikipedia on BLPs ... one example that came to light in this week's review of the (probably half) of FAs currently on the books that are deficient is Mariah Carey. That article passed FAR in 2007 at 5418 words, and is now at 11976; in other words, it has more unreviewed than vetted content. I haven't glanced at it yet to see how dismal it might be, but can assume the typical Wikipedia quality of content about a living person is now wearing a bronze star. Scan down the list on that page and some of the other data on the page, and you will get a sense of how many potential and identified problems we have with the FA pool; in as many as half of the FAs, there may not be a place to "freeze". Also, FA has become a one-way street (once an FA, always an FA) since 2010, when FAR fell off the map. How many fingers do we have to plug all of these holes ? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 11:41, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
I think (given that my proposal is not meant to be invasive, and would leave the current 'anyone can edit' version highly visible) that a different approach would be needed for BLP, namely identification, perhaps privately to the WMF. Peter Damian (talk) 11:52, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
By 'one way street', you mean numbers going down, yes? Wouldn't that be an ideal opportunity to showcase the demoted ones? Note that an FA would not be the same as my proposed SA, which would have a different editorial process. Peter Damian (talk) 11:54, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

B-P House[edit]

Hi Sandy,

thanks for the warm welcome back here. Not that I'm now going to dig into WP again as I did before, but some small editing couldn't go amiss. So, I've had a look at the referencing of B-P House, and cleaned it up. Obviously I removed the single pinetree ref, as the remark (B-P painting copy also in Geneva office) was not really a valuable contribution. Have a look at what I did, and if you have new recommendations, feel free to drop me some more hints.

PS. Essentially, the PineTree information is really good and valuable. It's main problem is that it is grabbed from all over (including WP as you point out), so the work is not to question the info itself, but to find good refs for them.

Regards, Wim van Dorst (talk) 22:02, 17 May 2015 (UTC).

Kim Kardashian's butt[edit]

Thank you for sharing that with us. Formerly 98 talk|contribs|COI Statement 20:57, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

If Kim Kardashian ever comes up at FAC, I'll have to oppose on 1b, comprehensive; there's no image of her butt. I am relying on the the great one to remedy that. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:01, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Well, you could add it. We'll need to craft some accompanying text though. Level I or II heading for the section? Formerly 98 talk|contribs|COI Statement 21:05, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Maybe we can entice back User:The Fat Man Who Never Came Back or User:Moni3 to craft the text: they rule in this content area. Or maybe DMacks will view my user page and contribute to the effort; he demonstrated quite the facility with words over at Drmies talk. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:15, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
I've got a 750 mm telephoto lens and will work on getting a copyright-free image. Formerly 98 talk|contribs|COI Statement 21:18, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Not so fast, Sandy. Medical issues are your domain; I can only envision a liberal use of phrases like "severe spinal deformity" and "extensive gluteal protrusion." Just make sure to make Kim Kardashian's cocktail table a redirect. [3] Эlcobbola talk 21:20, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Take a look[edit]

Ok, I think you can go take a look at the article now if you like.--ZiaLater (talk) 05:16, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome[edit]

Hi SandyGeorgia,Thank you for the welcome to Wikipedia and for your immensely helpful links and guidance. Greatly appreciated! Autumnstorm19 (talk) 04:40, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Everyone can have a bad day[edit]

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This kitten will curl up in your lap and make any bad day a good one

Fiddle Faddle 08:51, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Robert Walker[edit]

You were patient on Robert Walker's talk page and tried to be sympathetic to an editor whom you thought was still learning how to use talk pages. Patience and sympathy are virtues, but he isn't an inexperienced editor who is learning. He is an editor with a history of excessively long posts to talk pages, who has in the past been taken to ANI for his talk page behavior. I don't think that he is interested in working on a non-controversial article to learn. He decides what he wants to work on; he isn't working to learn because he is working to express his views. I have tried to help him learn in the past, and he hasn't benefited from learning. Thank you for trying. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:13, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Well, we have to strive for patience regardless. Sorry I can't follow up further, but I will be traveling. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:19, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @Robert McClenon: I have found that relentless and persistent (tautology?) politeness achieves one of two outcomes, compliance or WP:ROPE. There is a time when one may express the fact that one's patience is exhausted, and do so with clarity and continued politeness. I tried hard with DMRRT on their talk page, and, if I recall, on mine, and elsewhere, too. They, too, were long winded. Eventually other people determined that indeffing them was the right approach, but way after I expressed my expiry of patience. Fiddle Faddle 16:23, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Quick request[edit]

Hi there, Sandy, per WP:POLEMIC would you please remove mention of me? Many thanks, and enjoy, petrarchan47คุ 03:01, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

I totally understand[edit]

I read through Ozzie11aaaa's recent edits to understand why you were (reasonably) upset with him. Even I, with no involvement in the project, am a little irked by his, to say bluntly, useless comments. He usually writes "good information" or "agreed", what is the point? I tried telling him that he should think if his comment is truly helpful, but he just banned me from his talk page. Oh well, I guess you'll have to put up with it, since I don't believe there is a policy for those kind of edits. Best of luck.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 23:25, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

ANI notice[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Viriditas (talk) 23:33, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

How much content experience should an admin have?[edit]

SandyGeorgia, this is about citing something you said five years ago. I'm in some sort of debate with WhatamIdoing (talk · contribs) about whether a technical copyright expert could be an admin regardless of content experience. You can read the discussion by scrolling up from How much content experience should an admin have? on the Administrators' noticeboard. I'm contacting you because five years ago I curated something you said...

  • "adminship is a big deal and does create a semi-permanent class of superusers, so candidates should take this process with the importance it deserves.... Yes, I disagree with NOBIGDEAL" – SandyGeorgia (here)

...and I might want to reference it to support my point of view in the current discussion. However, I'd like to check you still have this sentiment, and if so whether I'm citing it in the best way. Any feedback would be helpful, thanks - Pointillist (talk) 23:48, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Pointillist, I don't think you need to bother. I understand your position; I don't agree with it. It's okay. You're not required to agree with me. WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:01, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
Sandy's on holiday (contribs). --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 12:52, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

PR request[edit]

Hello. I noticed your name at the archeology project, and I was hoping that you might be interested and willing to take a look at Wikipedia:Peer review/Chetro Ketl/archive1. I've put lots of work into this article during the last three months, but I still feel it could use more feedback. Are you interested? RO(talk) 19:06, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Writing help needed[edit]

Hi Sandy. I have done a lot of work on the article Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge, and would like to see it have a shot at FAC, because its 20 year anniversary is coming up this year. Although it had recently been through the GOCE after a long wait, you expressed a few weeks ago that it was still not up to par. I asked for help from RHM22, who is busy outside of Wikipedia at the moment, and Dr. Blofeld, who often helps me on such articles, but is not right now. What other options does someone like me, a pretty good researcher and technical editor, but not a great writer, have to get this job done? Are there only a few editors who are good enough, and must be begged to help over and over again? What would you do in my situation? BollyJeff | talk 16:43, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

GA Review of Parent Management Training[edit]

Check the talk page of Parent Management Training

The article was failed and needs some work and/or defense.

It's an article that I know you worked hard on.Tadamsmar (talk) 22:17, 27 June 2015 (UTC)