Talk:Fernando Alonso

Alonso, the true Iceman.

Blue Fenix

I've removed the sentence which indicates that his nickname is the "Blue Fenix". Google turns up only one hit for "blue phoenix" "fernando alonso" and zero for "blue fenix" "fernando alonso". Pburka 3 July 2005 17:36 (UTC)

Bias

I was about to remove the last 5 paragraphs of the section "2005" and replace it with the paragraph by Mark83 in his last edit. Those paragraphs look more than a little biased, and what's more, some facts are inaccurate, as well. But then, looking at other parts of the article, I find that it has been modified in other places too, recently, and the writing style makes it look like something written by a fan. So I haven't deleted the last paragraphs as I was about to, and am instead awaiting a discussion on the whole article.

Below are factual inaccuracies (apart from the general bias) I've noticed in the last 5 paragraphs of the section "2005."

"In comparison to Räikkönen, Alonso had made significantly fewer driving errors than his rival (just one in Canada) and has been a model of consistency finishing in the top three more times than Räikkönen."

My memory isn't the best, but of the races in just the latter half, I distinctly remember Alonso making mistakes in qualifying in Hungary and Hockenheim. Raikkonen wasn't prone to many mistakes, either.

"Alonso was not only the fastest driver in qualifying but also matched the McLaren MP4-20’s speed, running with relatively the same amounts of fuel on board."

This is just speculation, isn't it? Since the Safety Car came on before the frontrunners had made their pitstops (not to forget Montoya retiring due to the drain cover incident), there is no way of verifying such a claim, other than believing press releases by the teams concerned, which are not exactly models of unbiased reporting - especially given that throughout most of the season, McLaren were shown to be qualifying with much more fuel on board than Renault.

Great Red Spot

Couldn't agree more, this page has changed a lot since I've last contributed. Some statements, while true, are surrounding by gushing praise that doesn't even come close to NPOV. I'll try and sort it out. Mark83 15:49, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

The 2005 section is much better now, but the "Early Years" and "Formula One years" section could do with a lot of improvements. They're still in a adulatory vein. Eg:-

"... someone who actually remembers that it's still a sport"

"Alonso is one of the few drivers capable of being on the pace every lap of every race and having a rare gift for driving around major problems while losing minimal lap time." (I remember reading this in some article, but still it's presented here as fact, when it's merely the opinion of that writer.) Great Red Spot

I agree. The article comes accross as a work of an Alonso fan and is VERY biased. Just one example: the Lauda quote makes Alonso look like being perfect (no driver is!). Lauda may have said it or not, but it's still just an opinion - probably being told when Alonso became a WDC, thus being naturally full of praise. (The other day Lauda will say the same of Raikkonen or Schumacher.) You can argue that we can include quotes on drivers in an article like that, but if we only use positive and praising quotes that can make the article biased. So I suggest the removal of the Lauda quote. 80.98.174.44 16:01, 16 January 2006 (UTC)