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Not sure...

Thanks once again for your advice on improving 50 Cent discography. However, I'm not quite sure what exactly I can use to cite US album sales. You say, rightly, that SoundScan is reliable, but how do I use it as a reference? Do I just use any source that says, say, "according to Nielsen SoundScan", or do Nielsen have a special database of album sales that I'm currently not aware of?

Also, can I use sources like this one to cite the sales for Get Rich or Die Tryin'? I need more claification over what's reliable and what's not, and if it is reliable or not, how to use it.

I hope you understand what I mean - I just need a little explaining. I am desperate for the page to become a featured list, and need all the advice I can get, which would be greatly appreciated. Sufur222 (talk) 21:38, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Billboard gives sales updates in their Chart Beat and news columns. The info comes directly from NSS. Just a quick search works. Yahoo! also has a blog called Chart Watch by Paul Grein, a reasonably reliable author. Note that the latter only does singles, no compilations. The link you give looks like a well reputed source, though it only looks useful for general news and not sales. I could be wrong; I'm not an expert on commercial information. PeterGriffin (one of your reviewers aka Nathan) might be able to help you with references and such. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 21:47, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

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I think it's ready... Nathan2055^{talk - review} 23:48, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

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You updated the article history but forgot to change the GAN template to {{GA|~~~~~|topic=Video games|page=1}}! That's required for the bot to update the proper pages. Thanks for your help, Nathan2055^{talk - review} 03:04, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

I only removed the template because I actually made those updates myself. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 03:07, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Lol

Your boy is obsessed with ma girl! Hehe :)--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 17:51, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

That was "ma" boy back then, always did drugs and stupid things. That's changed ;) In fact, he gave her a "warning". —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 17:54, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Lol, more like a bluff I'd say :P--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 17:57, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Wow... :/ —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 18:11, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Hold it Against Me

The first one can just be ignored, as for articlehistory purposes it doesn't count. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 01:02, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

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Some people just don't get it, do they? Classic entertainment. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 19:09, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

:)

135px	Congratulations!
	Everyday I see you making edits and improvements to the "Love the Way You Lie" article, I hope you promote it to FA. Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon! 22:30, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, by the looks of it, it will be 2012 (zee end of zee werld) when I even nominate it for FA. It's just one of those articles that I actually have the motivation to perfect, only because I worked so hard on it. Thanks very much; I think this is the fourth WikiLove I've got for LTWYL. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 22:36, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. List it for a Peer Review for a second opinion. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 22:38, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

I will do some more copy-editing, get the Guild to help a bit (fingers crossed that the c/e-er will be an experienced one) and maybe a peer review this December or January. The thing is, I'll be gone to Florida in December. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 22:53, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I have no faith in the Guild. My first experience with them was awful. I'm going to Florida in December as well, how coincidental! lol Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 23:20, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Hehe, nice. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 23:23, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

I say Florida, just Orlando for two weeks. I'm not going until the last week though. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 23:26, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

For me: Orlando and Miami. I have an uncle in the latter. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 23:30, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Ahh cool. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 23:32, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Love the Way You Lie (Article)

But the sentance in the Sequel section is a real sentence? As it looks exactly the same as the other two. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 01:34, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

If this "sentence" was in the prose of the article: "Eminem and Rihanna performing "Love the Way You Lie" at E3 2010" It wouldn't sound right would it? But "Eminem and Rihanna perform "Love the Way You Lie" at E3 2010" would. It's kind of like when your English teachers would ask you to answer a question with a complete sentence. That caption, as a sentence, is incomplete. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 09:57, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

No, what I'm saying is: "Rihanna singing "Love The Way You Lie (Part II)" on her Loud Tour." by your reasoning, shouldn't have a full stop. The only thing that is different is that you have used singing instead of performing. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 12:27, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Didn't notice that, sorry. The article still has a load of cleaning up to do. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 12:31, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

I think the Sequel section is running a bit low on info. I think a bit more could be included. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 14:11, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

It's supposed to be a summary of the main article. I'll take it through MOS:SUMMARY though. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 14:20, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

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I'm starting to copyedit it now. Don't work on the draft, okay? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 10:36, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Mkay. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 10:37, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

I have copy edited the article till the composition section. Bravo on the work. But main problem reeking the article is that of continually changing tense, full of quotes instead of general prose and the almost plagiarized content in the Recording section. You need to tone down the content. I will continue with the other sections after sometime. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 12:11, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Did you see my points? If so, are you addressing them now or later? I will refrain from copy-editing or will continue accordingly. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:27, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

1. If the quote is UNDUE, should I just remove it or should I trim it down?
2. I was told Idolator is legit because it has a reliable publisher (Buzz).
3. MOS says to refrain repetitive mention of full names in an article, so I assumed "1da" would be sort of a last name kind of thing.

I need your view on these. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 13:32, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

1. When you see that removing a quote is not harming the article, but is actually making it flow better, out with it. 2. Idolator still hasn't established literary credibility so it won't high-quality source per FA? there. So its fine for GAN, not for FAC. Depends on your future plans with the article. 3. Are you sure 1a or whatever is his last name? Is it a case of someone like P. Diddy where P stands for Puff, thus Diddy being a logical surname? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 14:32, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

All issues have been addressed. I will keep Idolator until I actually decide to bring this to FAC. For #3, I replaced "1da" with "Boi-1da" because it's one word (pron. Boy-Wanda). You may now continue as you please. —WP:PENGUIN · ^{[ TALK ]} 15:01, 10 September 2011 (UTC)