Talk:Margot (activist): Difference between revisions
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:: Never mind, I got it - “Michał”. Is this her legal name? - <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:GizzyCatBella|<span style="color:#40">'''GizzyCatBella'''</span>]][[User talk:GizzyCatBella|<span style="color:transparent;text-shadow:0 0 0 red;font-size:80%">🍁</span>]]</span></small> 08:40, 20 August 2020 (UTC) |
:: Never mind, I got it - “Michał”. Is this her legal name? - <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:GizzyCatBella|<span style="color:#40">'''GizzyCatBella'''</span>]][[User talk:GizzyCatBella|<span style="color:transparent;text-shadow:0 0 0 red;font-size:80%">🍁</span>]]</span></small> 08:40, 20 August 2020 (UTC) |
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<s>This is a man!! [[User:Bartek384848|Bartek384848]] ([[User talk:Bartek384848|talk]]) 09:36, 18 August 2020 (UTC)</s> |
<s>This is a man!! [[User:Bartek384848|Bartek384848]] ([[User talk:Bartek384848|talk]]) 09:36, 18 August 2020 (UTC)</s> |
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::This is ugly deadnaming, this is what it is! [[User:Rainbow freedom|Rainbow freedom]] ([[User talk:Rainbow freedom|talk]]) 12:23, 20 August 2020 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 12:23, 20 August 2020
Identity
This person appears as a man in the identity document, so writing about him as her would be biased and ideologically oriented. We try to avoid such bias on Wikipedia
- No, we use preferred pronouns here on WP. Please respect Margot's preference. Malick78 (talk) 17:08, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia so we call things as they are and not as we would like them to be. We can write that He defines himself as a woman but the facts are that he's a man. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prince1882 (talk • contribs) 17:44, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, could you give a link to the policy you are referring to? Here it clearly says we give preference to the person's latest preferred gender identity. I will revert your edits accordingly. Malick78 (talk) 22:51, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia so we call things as they are. We could write about him as "her" if he underwent an actual gender reassignment, and he had it in the papers. Polish police call him a man so we should also do same thing. https://twitter.com/PolskaPolicja/status/1292089658659217415 Wikipedia is also not a place for activists to express their views. Policy can't change the facts, for example, we cannot write about someone that He was a professor because he he personified himself as professor, the facts are the facts. Its not right to modify basic biology rules and his ID documents because he's got something different in this mind. Wikipedia articles should be impartial. I don't know if you're familiar with that policy but you can read it here. We obviously can say that he claims that he's a woman but nothing more. Changing male form into female form in this arcticle is an act of vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prince1882 (talk • contribs) 23:24, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
- What was her previous name prior to “Malgorzata”? Do you know? - GizzyCatBella🍁 08:39, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- Never mind, I got it - “Michał”. Is this her legal name? - GizzyCatBella🍁 08:40, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
This is a man!! Bartek384848 (talk) 09:36, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- This is ugly deadnaming, this is what it is! Rainbow freedom (talk) 12:23, 20 August 2020 (UTC)