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== April 2021 == |
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[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] [[Help:Getting started|Welcome to Wikipedia]]. We appreciate [[Special:Contributions/151.196.126.78|your contributions]], but in one of your recent edits, it appears that you have added [[Wikipedia:No original research|original research]], which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses [[Wikipedia:No original research#Synthesis of published material that advances a position|combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say]]. Please be prepared to cite a [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable source]] for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the [[Help:Introduction to referencing|tutorial on citing sources]]. '' ''<!-- Template:uw-nor1 --> '''[[User talk:Ravensfire|<span style="color: darkred;">Ravensfire</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Ravensfire|talk]]) 05:37, 21 April 2021 (UTC) |
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:i didn't add original research. the declaration of independence exists. |
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:it says "all men are created equal ... with ... Liberty" |
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:and goes on to say that "whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive ... |
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:it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it" |
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:furthermore, in the already existing wikepedia article, it is noted that the marquis de lafayette, who is not born in the territories of or having of any parentage, is a "natural born citizen" according to the :Maryland General Assembly of the 1700s. |
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:i don't use original research and i try to get the information across as briefly as possible. |
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:if you have a better way to note that the united states claimed that everybody is equal and that we aren't all having different nationalities according to birth and bloodlines, then please have at it. |
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:i'm just trying to explain the obvious (to me) with the currently existing information about the united states. |
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:it's the only country that i know of where citizenship is not controlled by governments, but naturally by the people... |
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:...and where the "government" itself states that it should be destroyed or altered if that ever changes. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/151.196.126.78|151.196.126.78]] ([[User talk:151.196.126.78#top|talk]]) 05:53, 21 April 2021 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Xsign --> |
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:: Your personal beliefs aside, Wikipedia operates on consensus, and multiple editors disagree with your proposed changes. The proper action is to discuss your proposed changes on the talk page, and not [[WP:EDITWAR]]. [[User:Weazie|Weazie]] ([[User talk:Weazie|talk]]) 17:26, 21 April 2021 (UTC) |
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::: While the Declaration of Independence itself is not original research, your attempt to apply what the DoI says about unalienable rights to the matter of natural-born citizenship under the Constitution does constitute original research, and is not allowed on Wikipedia, unless you can cite [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] (other than your own reading) to support such a connection. And suggesting that failure of the Constitution's natural-born-citizen clause to define this term in the way you believe the DoI uses it constitutes valid grounds for the people to change or overthrow the Constitution is, likewise, original research — again, unless you can cite reliable sources proposing such a connection. — [[User:Richwales|<u>Rich</u>]][[User talk:Richwales|wales]] <small>''(no relation to Jimbo)''</small> 02:00, 22 April 2021 (UTC) |
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[[File:Information orange.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Please do not use styles that are nonstandard, unusual, inappropriate or difficult to understand in articles, as you did in [[:Natural-born-citizen clause]]. There is a [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]], and edits should not deliberately go against it without special reason. ''Please see [[MOS:EDITORIAL]].''<!-- Template:uw-mos2 --> [[User:Tol|Tol]] | [[User_talk:Tol|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Tol|Contribs]] 01:33, 22 April 2021 (UTC) |
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