Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 4

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 4, 2021.

Wikipedia:NOTGOOGLE+

• Wikipedia:NOTGOOGLE+ → Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a blog, Web hosting service, social networking service, or memorial site  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Google+ was shut down in 2019. 128.127.214.213 (talk) 07:21, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Cute book

• Template:Cute book → Template:Cite book  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Created after Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 21#Template:Cute news. No more useful than Template:Cte bok, Template:Ctie book, etc. Such misspellings should be corrected at source not via redirect to prevent confusion (reason for deletion #2) and avoid the risk of making it unreasonably difficult (reason for deletion #1) for bots, automated systems and searches to deal effectively with templated citations. DrKay (talk) 07:00, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Damien Gottlieb

• Damien Gottlieb → Gottlieb  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I first redirected this to an article where the name was mentioned. Large parts of that article turns out to be completely unsourced and partly plain hoax, created by the same editors who have lots of redirects challenged and nominated for deletion. T*U (talk) 06:33, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

• Delete. Enwiki has nothing about Damien Gottlieb and their connection with the target is not mentioned. Having said that, RfD is not the place to resolve editorial disputes about Gottlieb. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:11, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Damien Synertek

• Damien Synertek → Synertek  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

I first redirected this to an article where the name is mentioned. Parts of that article turns out to be a hoax, created by the same editors who created this and also has lots of redirects challenged and nominated for deletion. T*U (talk) 05:57, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

• Delete. Enwiki has nothing about Damien Synertek and their connection with the target is unclear and not mentioned. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:13, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Awesometown

• Awesometown → The Lonely Island  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Awesometown is a common nickname for Valencia, Santa Clarita, California and the adjacent unincorporated area of Valencia, California. It is also sometimes used to refer to Santa Clarita as a whole. Search "awesometown valencia" or "awesometown santa clarita" on Google or any other search engine for proof. Should be changed to disambiguation page. Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 05:10, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Cross over basketball

• Cross over basketball → Crossover dribble  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Implausible redirect. "Crossover" as a noun (referring to the basketball dribble) is always spelled as one word. Coincidentally, the word "crossover" is in my username. Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 03:59, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

• Keep, sometimes spelt as two words. Readers are using it, so why delete? — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 04:09, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Normally (according to typical Wikipedia convention), it would be Cross over (basketball) with parentheses. I already created Crossover (basketball). "Cross over" is usually only spelled as such when used as a verb. Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 04:36, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Readers (and redirects) don't always follow "Wikipedia convention", as is shown by the pageviews. What is the harm in having this redirect, when it evidently helps readers? — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 04:42, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
      • 152 views in nearly 6 years. Sounds negligible to me. That doesn't count those who search "crossover (basketball)" in the search box and see "cross over basketball." Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 04:49, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
        • It's less than 5 years. I don't see any cross over results pop up if I type crossover. It's a lot of readers helped. And deleting this redirect is a lot of readers harmed for no reason. How would deleting this redirect benefit the encyclopedia? — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 04:54, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
          • That was because I created the redirect Crossover (basketball) on April 16, 2021. And "less than 5 years" is still a very long time. The page received 152 views in that time. Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 05:00, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
            • Answer the question: How would deleting this redirect be beneficial to the encyclopedia? — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 05:10, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
              • Is the redirect needed or even useful now that we have Crossover (basketball)? Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 05:11, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
                • It's not needed but nothing is. It's still useful to anyone who searches it up, especially through the URL bar. But you didn't answer my question. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 05:36, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
                  • The redirect is a pretty implausible search term. As I mentioned earlier, "crossover" (the basketball dribble) is almost always spelled as one word when used as a noun. I initiated the discussion in order to survey other Wikipedians' views on this redirect - not necessarily because I oppose it. Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 06:11, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
                    • The readers don't necessarily know that. I'm still seeing no reason why deleting this redirect would benefit Wikipedia. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 06:22, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Substr quick

• Template:Substr quick → Template:Str sub old  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Obsolete template redirect - we don’t do long/fast/slow variants of every template any more. User:GKFX^talk 11:36, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:09, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

• Keep, contains history that I'm inclined to keep. Harmless after all. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 04:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Str sub old/any

• Template:Str sub old/any → Template:Str sub old  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Unused template redirect User:GKFX^talk 11:32, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:08, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

• Keep, contains history that I'm inclined to keep. Harmless after all. — J947 ‡ ^{message ⁓ edits} 04:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)