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:If you were an admin, your previous behavior would, I hope, lead to you losing your administrator privileges (as it should with other rogue admins like Jayjg). But as a simple user, a years ban seems excessive and unjust. - [[User:Xed|<small>XED</small>]].[[User talk:Xed|<small>talk</small>]] 21:02, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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New discussions and edits

Topics I will soon edit: Abraham Joshua Heschel, Conservative responsa, Mishneh Torah, Blood libel,

Also, for those interested, please see my new comment at Talk:XY_sex-determination_system. I think we need to remove two of the redirects, and allow Wikipedia to develop one article on the X chromosome, and one article on the Y chromosome. What do you think? RK 22:36, Feb 13, 2005 (UTC)

RK,

I've killed the redirects and put up short stubs for the X and Y chromosomes, plus a list of of things that should and could be covered in the articles on their talk pages. I'd appreciate help with expanding the articles, the Y chromosome in particular has potential to become a very interesting article. I'm always finding gaps in wiki's genetics coverage, some more like dosage compensation, and x-inactivation arise from this --nixie 00:23, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

You're back!

Praise Anthere, you're back! As you seem to plan some biology work as well, this is probably going to be quite enjoyable. What are your plans with Mishneh Torah?

I agree that the title XY sex-determination system does not cover the content and that X chromosome and Y chromosome deserve to be seperate pages.

I must warn you that John Gohde is back and pretty much ******. I have already received a typical blast of rudeness when I offered my help in recovering his cherished infoboxes. JFW | T@lk 23:50, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Its good to hear from you, and I hope you find my small additions today to be of some use. RK

Hi, Robert. Though we have had our differences, I am also glad to see you back. Thanks for sticking with us, through good times and bad. I am sincerely happy to hear that you will be joining us again. Danny 00:57, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Danny, it is good to be back, and good to hear from you. I look forward to working with you on any articles. RK 23:04, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC)

Welcome back!! 172 03:07, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hey, 172, long time no see. Good to hear from you. RK 23:04, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC)

Welcome back, RK -- thank you for respecting the community's decision despite disagreeing with it. I think it a very clear demonstration of the fact that, regardless of what people may say about their interactions with you in the past, you are a user who values this project and who plans to continue doing good work here. I want to apologize once again for the confusion I created in applying the block on your account in October, and I hope that I can work cooperatively with you on an article at some point in the future. Best regards, Jwrosenzweig 21:23, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The past is in the past, I am sure that everything is cool. I am sure we'll work well together. RK 23:04, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC)

You are violating the AC ruling that "RK is banned from editing articles directly or indirectly related to Judaism for one year". You had better stop before someone starts applying the prescribed penalties. --Zero 01:20, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Zero, what the hell are you talking about? I have never heard of any such ban, ever. And I do not know any of the people working on the Judaism oriented articles who would even ask for such a thing. RK 18:47, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)

Welcome back,RK. Jayjg (talk) 16:56, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hi RK.

Unfortunately, Zero is absolutely true. You are not allowed to edit any article related to judaism for a year.

Admittedly, you were only told 2 days after you were banned. You may read the explanation here : http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ARK&diff=7362311&oldid=6608714

SweetLittleFluffyThing


Banned again for no reason?!

This is really sick. Simonides and Zero instigated four out of nine Admins to ban me from editing all Judaism articles for a full year. Worse, they did so on th every articles on which I and others have the most success cooperating!

Josiah, JayJG, JFWolff and I have very different ideas about Judaism, yet we obviously have been able to work on these Judaism articles.

It is a gross violation of Sysop and Admin power to create rules that apply to only one person, and to no one else. By definition, when Wikipedia Admins engage in such behaviour, they are violating their own mandate, and thei "rulings" have no authority and are not binding.

1. I am not involved in any flame wars. So why the year long ban? Not a single Wikipedian was ever given a year ban when they were NOT in a flame war.
2. I am not involved in any revert wars or edit wars. So why the ban? Not a single Wikipedia was ever given a ban when they were not in revert for edit wars.
3. The supposed problems are in articles in which the articles HAVE ALREADY BEEN RESOLVED, long ago! So why the ban?
Not a single Wikipedian was ever given a year ban when parties amicably came to an issue. It seems that some Admins are enraged that our system actually worked, and parties peacefully worked out their differences. What kind of hateful people think that such a positive result is grounds for a year long ban?
4. I repeatedly take week-long (or longer) Wiki-breaks to let things cool down and allow

other people to have their say without any problem. So why the ban?

5. I have taken many contentious articles OFF of my Watchlist, and simply let others do what they want, rather then engage in multiple arguments. So why the ban?
6. I have asked for and successfully used mediation when necessary. So why the ban? The action to ban me was taken behind my back, without informing me, and proceeded based on false assumptions - and potentially deliberate lies.

I have e-mailed Jimbo Wales and others about this very issue previously; they were all unable to come up with even a single instance of this ever happening. Ever. The entire ban is a violation of Wikipedia policy, and we should not allow four people with a vendetta to wreck our whole system.

We are unfortunately dealing with a small number of people abusing their Admin power out of some sort of personal vendetta. If it happens to one person, it will happen to others. What steps should we take next to initiate disciplinary action against them for these serious violations?

Robert


If you were an admin, your previous behavior would, I hope, lead to you losing your administrator privileges (as it should with other rogue admins like Jayjg). But as a simple user, a years ban seems excessive and unjust. - XED.talk 21:02, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)