User talk:VitaleBaby

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Note: After I respond to a message, I delete it. So please don't complain that I ignore messages. That is not true. I always either take action, respond to the poster, or both.

The problem was that you removed the warning from this page about that image without discussion. You then replaced a disputed tag on the image, again without any discussion or evidence that you were planning on resolving the problem. The image was deleted as per process and I blocked you because it appeared you were deliberately placing Wikipedia in legal jeopardy. If this was not the case, I apologise. If you agree in the future not to remove warnings from this page until you have dealt with them, I would support another admin unblocking you immediately (I would extend this offer to you as well but there's a good chance I won't be around for the rest of the evening). However, please note that removing warnings from this page is generally taken as a sign of bad faith, particularly when you then replace a tag with no evidence on an image and give no indication you have any intention of fixing the problem. --Yamla 04:19, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I have greviences with you, and you are not addressing them. Instead, you are talking down to me as if I did anything improper. First of all, will you stop with the legal jargon? First of all, I want to clarify the image policy for you. C'mon, you should know this! The free/fair use dispute has nothing to do with legal consequences. It instead has to do with Wikipedia's goal to be a truly 'free' encyclopedia. Second of all, warnings are supposed to given before a block. That did not occur. Yes, we discussed the issue of the image, but no actual warning messages were issued to me first. Third, I did not remove the dispute tag. Someone had removed my original assertation of public domain. I replaced it, as that should not be deleted until the dispute is resolved. However, the 'copyright status disputed' tag was never altered. Finally, that image should not be deleted, as I am trying to get another response from the governor's office. But at this point, I'm going to just forget about it, the governor's pictures are just too hard to deal with. Regardless of whether you feel I am right or wrong, you are acting in bad faith to block without a warning. And your assertations aren't even right. Please get your story straight before you go around blocking people. Notice in the history that I added at tag rather than removing one. So, I can't agree not to do something again in the future, if I never did it in the present. This block is unjust. I expect action. VitaleBaby 05:23, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

If VitaleBaby was blocked, how was he or she able to reply only a few minutes later? Will (Talk - contribs) 06:04, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

When blocked, you are able to edit your own user talk page. Otherwise, one would be unable to file a dispute request. It's not like I'm crying wolf and want to get back at this other user. I'm blocked, I want it overturned. I'd perfer Yamla work out disputes with me rationally, rather than just block. Will somebody here review this? VitaleBaby 16:24, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Did you ever answer the issues raised by Yamla a week ago? [1]. You've previously been warned that immediately removing warnings from your page, as well as refusing to use edit summaries, are not conducive to collegial editing. If you'd be willing to change those practices I'd support unblocking your account. -Will Beback · † · 19:22, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I absolutely REFUSE to be singled out for not using edit summaries. And I will NOT change my style with my user page. Why don't you criticize the people that just let complaints build up on thier talk pages but do nothing about it, instead of someone who actually takes action but likes to stay organized? That is NOT what this is about it. It's about one image that I had a dispute with Yalma on. I am a long time user who has no record of vandalism or abuse. I have been in image disuptes during the raging wars that went on months ago, but never was in anything that turned nasty. But again, neither of the editors who have commented here have addressed the reason that I was blocked: 1) Yalma didn't like my public domain tag so he told me to get proof 2) I wrote for proof and still haven't goten a response 3) Yalma removed the tag 4) I placed it back because, after all, until disputes are resolved images and the like should not be removed 5) Yalma blocked me without even placing a warning tag on my user page. This is an unacceptible action for an administrator. If I was in your shoes, I'd be using my power more wisely, but Yalma thinks that the best way to solve a dispute is just to use the ol' block button. Disgraceful! VitaleBaby 21:44, 25 January 2007 (UTC)