User talk:JBW

This account was previously known as JamesBWatson, but was renamed to JBW on 19 September 2019. James B. Watson is not my real name.

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More bored students

Seems they don't have enough to do at the University of Queensland. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 01:31, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Or in Idaho. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 20:44, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Blocked 169.197.75.2 & 169.197.75.224/27, which cover all the edits. JBW (talk) 08:09, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Moroccan students? 196.64.12.x, 196.64.13.x & 196.64.14.x have a history of making nonsense edits, disappearing for a few months, then more nonsense. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 21:54, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Blocked 196.64.12.0/22 & 196.64.16.0/22 for 6 months. There have been occasional short bursts of vandalism outside those ranges, but all the activity of the one persistent vandal seems to fall within them. JBW (talk) 08:05, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Bored students in Canada, I guess. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 17:03, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

@Skywatcher68: Not sure whether they are students this time, but certainly the substantial majority of the editing from that range is vandalism. Blocked 209.195.248.0/22 and 209.195.252.0/24, which, if I haven't made a mistake, covers all the editing except one solitary edit in 2006. Is searching for editing by "bored students" one of your most loved pastimes? You seem to do it rather a lot.🤔 JBW (talk) 21:14, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Just perusing Recent Changes. Most of the time, I simply add the Shared IP edu template to users' talk pages but sometimes I'll do a range search upon coming across a recent vandal and see if there's a pattern. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 02:18, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Private GSM

Hello JBW, I reverted your declination of the CSD tag at Private GSM because I strongly believe that it meets one or more than one CSD criterion. First of all, the page is an advert that promotes a single entity. Rather than telling 'what the product is' the page is focused on 'why you should use the product' (G11). Secondly, it doesn't cite any sources and so anything that is stated on the page has no authenticity. It could be a blatant hoax made to look the product fancier (G3). Thirdly, the page doesn't state the significance and why the topic is important as an encyclopedic entry (A7). I don't know why someone even approved an article like this with no reliable and notable sources. If you can make the article better by maintaining a neutral tone and adding appropriate citations and sources, you are welcome. But don't just remove the CSD. Make a formal appeal on Deletion review and discuss it with other admins and/or contest the CSD on its talk page. Thank you. Enormous Efrit (talk) 11:48, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Enormous Efrit:

1. You nominated the article for deletion as a blatant hoax, and I declined that nomination. Most of what you have written above has nothing to do whether it's a blatant hoax or not, and so is irrelevant to that nomination. The article may or may not have other reasons why it should be deleted, but that has no bearing on the validity or otherwise of the reason you put forward.
2. A speedy deletion nomination is a request for an administrator to review the page and decide whether it should be deleted. I am an administrator, and I did what you asked for. To instruct me not to do so because the decision I made wasn't the one you had hoped for is absurd.
3. Have you any idea what the word "blatant" means? "It could be a blatant hoax" is nonsense. If it were blatant there would be no "could be" about it.
4. It took me seconds, not minutes, to run a web search and confirm that the article is not a hoax. You should do the same before making deletion nominations. Nominating a page for deletion because it "could" satisfy a deletion criterion, without checking whether it actually does, is a waste of editors' time.
5. I suggest you may like to read up on what WP:Deletion review is for. You will find it is not for administrators to make "a formal appeal" because they believe a speedy deletion nomination is invalid.
6. Thank you for informing me that I am welcome to edit the article to improve it. Knowing that is so reassuring. Maybe when you have had an account for three months instead of two you would like to come back and tell me more of the facts about editing Wikipedia that you think I may have somehow missed. JBW (talk) 14:23, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Red Hen Press Article

Dear JBW, I've made a good faith effort to respond to the maintenance flag to improve the Red Hen Press article with more citations, and would like to remove the flag, if you agree that it's appropriate. Thank you!Books2read (talk) 12:06, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Voicing Erasure project

Hi JWB. I saw you nominated this article for deletion and while I agree with your PROD rationale it appears to be part of a student assignment per User:Emily01755, so I've instead moved it to draft space, as it may or not contain work they'll want to salvage. -- Asartea ^{Talk | Contribs} 11:14, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

@Asartea: OK. Thanks for letting me know. In general I am not keen on the very common practice of allowing things from student editors that we wouldn't allow from other editors, for several reasons, including the fact that I don't think it's doing a favour to the small minority of student editors who continue to edit after their course to teach them that they can do things which they will be picked up on if they continue to so. However, in this case I supose letting the page rest in user space for a while may be helpful to the editor, and won't do any harm, so I'm happy with that. JBW (talk) 11:25, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

a block you did Comment

Hi, you recently blocked User:Nolian for persistent removal of content. Apparently the block failed to gain their attention, and multiple warnings on their talk page have resulted in no behavioural change. Take a look at their contribs--single purpose, dedicated to edit-warring against consensus. It seems another block may be necessary. Daundelin❁ 14:37, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

im sorry for making bad edits i made good edits on missingno. article if you want to see

Bendy 999567890 (talk) 16:52, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

An enquiry about deleted vandalism

Why did you delete my Page? i will createa new one with different information but the same person

• Not Logged In User — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.147.195.222 (talk) 02:42, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Really? You need to be told why that was deleted? No, of course not, you're joking, aren't you? 😄 JBW (talk) 08:30, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

PAustin4thApril1980 evade

159.196.207.13 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) Last four articles edited by IP were also edited by PAustin4thApril1980 in the past. IP also posted on User talk:Nick Cooper about Threads (1984 film), an article heavily edited by PAustin4thApril1980. AldezD (talk) 18:17, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

1.136.106.242 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) is also likely PAustin4thApril1980 due to strong edit history of "Murder of..."/"Disappearance of..." articles where PAustin4thApril1980 has also edited. AldezD (talk) 18:20, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

@AldezD: 159.196.207.13 was absolutely obvious, with much more evidence than you mentioned. Also, when I came to block that IP address, I found that it had previously been blocked for block-evasion by PAustin4thApril1980. I haven't yet had time to look at 1.136.106.242, but I hope to do so soon. JBW (talk) 19:29, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

@AldezD: 1.136.106.242 turns out to be obvious too. The giveaway there is editing articles previously edited by PAustin4thApril1980, but not connected to PAustin4thApril1980's obsessions. However, it turns out that that IP address too has been blocked before for block-evasion by PAustin4thApril1980, but unlike the other one hasn't edited since that block, and I couldn't justify another block in that situation. However, if you see any more from that IP address or a related one, please let me know, and I'll reconsider it. JBW (talk) 20:10, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of InstaShop

Hi JBW, I believe your deletion of InstaShop under WP:G4 is a mistake. G4 only "applies to sufficiently identical copies ... of a page deleted via its most recent deletion discussion." (emphasis mine) The page was deleted as an article via Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/InstaShop, whereas I created it as a redirect; hence it is not a "sufficiently identical" copy of the page deleted. Moreover, the AfD closure specifically states that If an editor wishes to subsequently make a redirect this discussion should not prevent them from doing so, which is expressly an indication that the AfD does not preclude recreation of a redirect as I did. feminist (t) 15:14, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Feminist. After you created the redirect, an IP editor made it into an article, which was very similar to the one deleted at AFD. Fram then nominated that article for G4 speedy deletion, rightly in my opinion, and I deleted it. Your redirect, buried under the editing history of the recreated article, got deleted as collateral damage, but I've restored it now. JBW (talk) 17:32, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. If that is the case, I suggest protection of the page to prevent recreation of the article. feminist (t) 00:51, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

@Feminist: I did consider doing that, and it might be a good thing to do, but there is a significant chance that it wouldn't. The IP editor appears to be an undisclosed paid editor, who has at least five blocked accounts, and has also used more than one IP address for unlogged-in editing. They have put a considerable amount of effort into trying to use Wikipedia to publiciae this company, not only by means of the article and draft about it, but also by posting spam mentions of it into other articles. They have attempted to use deceptove methods, as seen in the AfD. Protecting the draft just might deter them, but my experience over the years is that very often in this situation protection can actually be counterproductive, because I have fairly often seen the following happen. An editor who has been so persistent up to now, rather than being deterred by page protection, may simply recreate the page under a different title. We can watch out for editing of the existing page and take action, but we can't watch every conceivable new title they could possibly use. I have therefore seen page protection have the opposite effect than intended, in this kind of situation. JBW (talk) 08:18, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Ok

Ok I understand. All I want is people to be able to see who I am. Can you make a page on Liliththerapper? Also. I think everything is great ok? I think there is no such thing as better. That is a manifestation of low self-esteem. Which I clearly don't have 😅😭 I don't like the idea humans have of something being more valuable than. The other. We are all the same consciousness energy that manifested this reality Liliththerapper (talk) 19:13, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

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ABU TV Song Festival 2021

Good morning, Why have you deleted this voice? It was an article written correctly. I think it should be rewrited (It will also more simple translating it) HAve a nice day --Esc0fans -and my 12 points go to... 13:51, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

@Esc0fans: You must have seen the deletion log entry, as otherwise you wouldn't have known that it was I who had deleted it, and so you must have seen that the reason was creation by a blocked editor evading a block. Perhaps what you wish to know is the reason behind that policy, so I shall say a little about that. There are, unfortunately, editors who choose to persistently knowingly edit contrary to Wikipedia policies, and who ignore blocks, simply creating new accounts to evade the effects of no matter how many blocks are imposed. The only mechanism we have which stands any chance at all of encouraging them to give up is to let them learn that any editing they do will be reverted, so that they will achieve nothing by evading their blocks. Of course that is not guaranteed to work, but over the years I have many times seen an editor who has persistently used one sockpuppet account after another to evade blocks but who has eventually given up when one or more editors have started rigorously applying the policy that editing by block-evading users, including page creation, can be reverted on sight. Unfortunately that sometimes means that we lose a good article, but that is a price we have to pay for the benefit of stopping far greater amounts of disruptive editing.

It may be of interest to you to know that the policy that pages created by banned users may be deleted has been in force at least since 2004, to my knowledge, and perhaps further back than that. The policy was extended to also cover blocked editors in February 2010. Over the years the matter has been discussed many times, and in every case that I have ever seen consensus has been in favour of the policy, though there's usually a minority viewpoint against it.

Quite apart from the above concerns, the particular article you refer to was distinctly poor in several respects, perhaps the biggest one being that it was sourced only to YouTube. It took me less than a minute to find better sources than that.

I hope that some or all of those comments may be of some help in clarifying the matter for you, but please feel welcome to let me know if you have any other questions about it.

Incidentally, I wonder, are you Italian? I ask only out of interest, and you absolutely don't have to answer if you don't wish to. JBW (talk) 16:03, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer,

I asked you about the article because I was considering to Translate the article on it.wiki (italian is my native language) but I can't translate it form japanese and I want to know if this voice can be on en.wiki. -Esc0fans -and my 12 points go to... 07:13, 24 November 2021 (UTC)