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At first glance only, pseudo-deity "Schwaixtix" appears to be related to Prussian Prussian/Sudovian "Suaixtix/Swayxtix", taken to be a deity of light. Scholar also propose that the Prussian deity is related to Lithuanian "Žvaigždikis" (also known as "Suaxtix, Swayxtix, Schwayxtix, Schwaytestix" by the Yotvingians). Is it possible that the name isn't Slavic at all, but refers to the Baltic deity?[[Special:Contributions/189.122.57.144|189.122.57.144]] ([[User talk:189.122.57.144|talk]]) 14:25, 1 June 2021 (UTC) |
At first glance only, pseudo-deity "Schwaixtix" appears to be related to Prussian Prussian/Sudovian "Suaixtix/Swayxtix", taken to be a deity of light. Scholar also propose that the Prussian deity is related to Lithuanian "Žvaigždikis" (also known as "Suaxtix, Swayxtix, Schwayxtix, Schwaytestix" by the Yotvingians). Is it possible that the name isn't Slavic at all, but refers to the Baltic deity?[[Special:Contributions/189.122.57.144|189.122.57.144]] ([[User talk:189.122.57.144|talk]]) 14:25, 1 June 2021 (UTC) |
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: I think you should read ''Schwaixtix'' as Shvaixtix which is similar to [[Svarožic]], because authors of that forgery were German-speaking. You can see that they borrowed names from other mythologies: Wodan = Odin, Balduri = Baldur, Nemisa = Nemesis?, Percunust = Perkun, so borrowing from Prussian Swyaxtix is possible. Lithuanian ''Žvaigždikis'' (god of stars) is cognate to Slavic word [[wiktionary:Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/gvězda|''gvězda'']] "star" and ''Zvezda'' as personification of Morning Star (see [[List of Slavic deities]]. I don't know about Suaixtix/Swayxtix, possibly related to Slavic [[wiktionary:Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/světъ|''světъ'']] "light"? You should remember that [[List of Lithuanian gods and mythological figures]] is also full of false informations and should be rewritten. [[User:Sławobóg|Sławobóg]] ([[User talk:Sławobóg|talk]]) 15:06, 1 June 2021 (UTC) |
: I think you should read ''Schwaixtix'' as Shvaixtix which is similar to [[Svarožic]], because authors of that forgery were German-speaking. You can see that they borrowed names from other mythologies: Wodan = Odin, Balduri = Baldur, Nemisa = Nemesis?, Percunust = Perkun, so borrowing from Prussian Swyaxtix is possible. Lithuanian ''Žvaigždikis'' (god of stars) is cognate to Slavic word [[wiktionary:Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/gvězda|''gvězda'']] "star" and ''Zvezda'' as personification of Morning Star (see [[List of Slavic deities]]. I don't know about Suaixtix/Swayxtix, possibly related to Slavic [[wiktionary:Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/světъ|''světъ'']] "light"? You should remember that [[List of Lithuanian gods and mythological figures]] is also full of false informations and should be rewritten. [[User:Sławobóg|Sławobóg]] ([[User talk:Sławobóg|talk]]) 15:06, 1 June 2021 (UTC) |
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I think the terminology is totally not right. The fact that no written sources exist (whether tradition was mostly spoken or they where burned through christianisation era or both) does not mean those deities did not exist. |
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They existed in old folk songs (actually spoken way to preserve knowledge and history in many cultures!) - that means they where deities as real as all other ones. The fact that they were mentioned in some written fakes does not make them "pseudo". |
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Pseudo-Slavic "Schwaixtix" = Lithuanian "Žvaigždikis" and Prussian "Suaixtix/Swayxtix"?
At first glance only, pseudo-deity "Schwaixtix" appears to be related to Prussian Prussian/Sudovian "Suaixtix/Swayxtix", taken to be a deity of light. Scholar also propose that the Prussian deity is related to Lithuanian "Žvaigždikis" (also known as "Suaxtix, Swayxtix, Schwayxtix, Schwaytestix" by the Yotvingians). Is it possible that the name isn't Slavic at all, but refers to the Baltic deity?189.122.57.144 (talk) 14:25, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- I think you should read Schwaixtix as Shvaixtix which is similar to Svarožic, because authors of that forgery were German-speaking. You can see that they borrowed names from other mythologies: Wodan = Odin, Balduri = Baldur, Nemisa = Nemesis?, Percunust = Perkun, so borrowing from Prussian Swyaxtix is possible. Lithuanian Žvaigždikis (god of stars) is cognate to Slavic word gvězda "star" and Zvezda as personification of Morning Star (see List of Slavic deities. I don't know about Suaixtix/Swayxtix, possibly related to Slavic světъ "light"? You should remember that List of Lithuanian gods and mythological figures is also full of false informations and should be rewritten. Sławobóg (talk) 15:06, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
"Pseudo"?
I think the terminology is totally not right. The fact that no written sources exist (whether tradition was mostly spoken or they where burned through christianisation era or both) does not mean those deities did not exist. They existed in old folk songs (actually spoken way to preserve knowledge and history in many cultures!) - that means they where deities as real as all other ones. The fact that they were mentioned in some written fakes does not make them "pseudo".