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Smoking in association football

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I've listed this article for peer review because I am considering taking it to FA. What would people feel is needed in order to improve it to a point where it might have a chance at FAN? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 12:47, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 12:47, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

STANDARD NOTE: I have added this PR to the Template:FAC peer review sidebar to get quicker and more responses. When this PR is closed, please remove it from the list. Also, consider adding the sidebar to your userpage to help others discover pre-FAC PRs, and please review other articles in that template. Thanks! Z1720 (talk) 21:47, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Oldelpaso

When browsing peer review for football articles this wasn't what I expected to find! My first impression is that it is heavily Anglocentric.

My biggest question would be, what is the exact scope of the article? We have a bit about players and managers smoking. We have a section on bans on spectators smoking in stadiums. What is there that we would put in an article about this, that doesn't heavily overlap one about societal attitudes to smoking, or something like Regulation of nicotine marketing? Incidentally that article says R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company sponsored the 1982 and 1986 World Cups and has a reference for that.
Cigarette cards, as the Panini of their day and something produced in a number of countries, should be covered more.
Ideally, some idea of the prevalence of smoking among players compared to the general population would be useful, at whatever point in history.
Given that the various countries of the UK banned smoking in enclosed public places in 2006-2007, beyond Goodison being the first, how notable is it that some football grounds did so a year earlier? For countries in general I'd say its differences with policy for public places as a whole that is of note rather than where it simply follows legislation.
This piece lists some prominent examples of tobacco sponsorship in football. Oldelpaso (talk) 18:31, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 :'''STANDARD NOTE:''' I have added this PR to the [[Template:FAC peer review sidebar]] to get quicker and more responses. When this PR is closed, please remove it from the list. Also, consider adding the sidebar to your userpage to help others discover pre-FAC PRs, and please review other articles in that template. Thanks! [[User:Z1720|Z1720]] ([[User talk:Z1720|talk]]) 21:47, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
+;Comments by Oldelpaso
+When browsing peer review for football articles this wasn't what I expected to find! My first impression is that it is heavily Anglocentric.
+*My biggest question would be, what is the exact scope of the article? We have a bit about players and managers smoking. We have a section on bans on spectators smoking in stadiums. What is there that we would put in an article about this, that doesn't heavily overlap one about societal attitudes to smoking, or something like [[Regulation of nicotine marketing]]? Incidentally that article says [[R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company]] sponsored the 1982 and 1986 World Cups and has a reference for that.
+*[[Cigarette cards]], as the Panini of their day and something produced in a number of countries, should be covered more.
+*Ideally, some idea of the prevalence of smoking among players compared to the general population would be useful, at whatever point in history.
+*Given that the various countries of the UK banned smoking in enclosed public places in 2006-2007, beyond Goodison being the first, how notable is it that some football grounds did so a year earlier? For countries in general I'd say its differences with policy for public places as a whole that is of note rather than where it simply follows legislation.
+*[https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/aug/10/football-teams-who-had-cigarette-brands-as-a-shirt-sponsor This piece] lists some prominent examples of  tobacco sponsorship in football. [[User:Oldelpaso|Oldelpaso]] ([[User talk:Oldelpaso|talk]]) 18:31, 26 February 2022 (UTC)