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Nothing notable about this war-time accident. A bomber was shot down. How often did that happen? Over a thousand times. Wikipedia is not a memorial. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:05, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Yes, bombers being shot down over Germany happened hundreds of times during the Second World War and that in and of itself is not notable but what is notable is that the tail gunner, Eugene Moran survived a fall from at least 8 000 meters in the severed tail of the B-17. If you can point me to at least three other instances where crew men survived falls from such heights trapped in parts of their planes without a parachute then I will agree that this instance is not notable but otherwise I have to disagree with your assessment. EU-DE-NRW-SI (talk) 15:24, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What's the source for that claim. A website that wouldn't pass WP:RS and a paid obituary. Those always fail as a reliable source....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:45, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The sources are the American Air Museum in Britain, the NRD and the Kreiszeitung (a local newspaper).

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 Yes, bombers being shot down over Germany happened hundreds of times during the Second World War and that in and of itself is ''not'' notable but what ''is notable'' is that the tail gunner, '''[[Eugene P. Moran|Eugene Moran]] survived a fall from at least 8 000 meters in the severed tail of the B-17'''. If you can point me to at least three other instances where crew men survived falls from such heights trapped in parts of their planes without a parachute then I will agree that this instance is not notable but otherwise I have to disagree with your assessment.
 [[User:EU-DE-NRW-SI|EU-DE-NRW-SI]] ([[User talk:EU-DE-NRW-SI|talk]]) 15:24, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 :What's the source for that claim. A website that wouldn't pass [[WP:RS]] and a paid obituary. Those always fail as a reliable source.[[User:WilliamJE|...William]], is the complaint department really on [[User talk:WilliamJE|the roof?]] 15:45, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
+::The sources are the [https://www.americanairmuseum.com/media/37742 American Air Museum in Britain], the [[Norddeutscher Rundfunk|NRD]] and the Kreiszeitung (a local newspaper).
+::[[User:EU-DE-NRW-SI|EU-DE-NRW-SI]] ([[User talk:EU-DE-NRW-SI|talk]]) 16:02, 2 March 2022 (UTC)