User talk:Victoriana2022

Sanford and Lyons

Hi! You've prepared a really well-written and decently sourced draft - but, the problem is that they seem not to be sufficiently notable for an article. I have several books on music hall and related topics that I have used in preparing articles (here) - but, sadly, Sanford and Lyons don't seem to be mentioned in any of them. Good luck with finding sources! Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:05, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Ghmyrtle!! Thanks for getting back, it is appreciated. I've actually just tweaked the declined draft and I'm hoping for publication. I read about them in Charlie Chaplin's semi-memoir 'A Comedian Sees The World' and started researching myself. They pioneered what became the blueprint for song and dance comedians in British music hall and were huge in their day. While they may not be mentioned in any of your books on music hall, they are mentioned in others, and I feel I'm only partially way through my research:

Working the Halls — Peter Honri and Spike Milligan

A Comedian Sees the World — Charlie Chaplin

The Vaudevillians —Bill Smith

The Melodies Linger On: The Story of Music Hall—Walter Macqueen Pope

Recollections of Vesta Tilley — Lady De Frece

Book and magazine sources https://archive.org/search.php?query=%22sanford%20and%20lyons%22&sin=TXT

Thousands of press articles, listings and reviews https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results?basicsearch=%22sanford%20and%20lyons%22&exactsearch=false&retrievecountrycounts=false

I see lesser known/accomplished artists (Joe Elvin, for example) have been considered sufficiently notable for a Wiki article, so hopefully my research will support the publication of one for Sanford and Lyons.

Would you let me know which Music hall titles you have in your library, so I can eliminate them on my list for my research? Victoriana2022 (talk) 17:55, 18 March 2022 (UTC)