Talk:Genesis P-Orridge/Archive 1

Archive 1

Timeline?

Hey, the article says that Megson was born in 1950, but later states 'In 1965, while attending Hull University, Neil subsumed himself into the character of Genesis P-Orridge'. This suggests that Megson was attending university by the age of 15 - if true, a quite unusual circumstance that bears further explanation. If untrue, we could do with finding out the correct dates. SpaceyHopper 16:44, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

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It seems now to have been corrected to - Born spring 1950, started secondary school autumn 1961 (age 11), started university autumn 1968 (age 18). Seems perfectly normal. There remains some slight confusion as an early biography of the artist instead says "born in [...] 1947", but this is probably misdirection and/or nonsense (rather expected when band names like Thee Temple Ov Psychick Youth are par for the course) and doesn't tally up so well with the rest of the timeline. 193.63.174.211 (talk) 08:17, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Heavy intro

Let's assume I don't have the faintest clue who Genesis P-Orridge is (true), then the first paragraph still leaves me a bit in the dark afer reading: what does

a manipulator of words and sound, a performance artist, in the truest sense, an exile, a returnee and advocate of various counterculture ideas, sacrificing most comfortable notions of identity, gender and even DNA

mean, exactly? It sounds like fan praise of those "in the know", but it just confuses me. How can anyone "sacrifice the comforable notion of DNA", for example? Even if you explain this in the remainder of the article, you shouldn't just dump it on the reader in the beginning. Keep it simple in the intro.

Similarly for

His former wife and PTV collaborator, Paula, is no longer mentioned in liner notes of any of the reissues of the music or writings since the mid-1990s. Sometimes this cropping is extremely awkward for those familiar the 12 years of PTV that Paula was so much a part of. This is certainly a rewriting of history but perhaps it's also out of respect for peoples' private lives.

I'm still in the intro here. I don't understand what the relevance is at this point. Also, I'm wondering what the background is of mentioning that it's "extremely awkward for those familiar..." or "certainly a rewriting of history but out of respect for people's private lives..." Is this based on quotes by anyone? Do we have them? Are we summarizing other facts? Which ones?

Finally, does the fifth section really need to have such a long title? Couldn't you call it "Later developments" or something like that and break it into subsections?

The article looks like fascinating stuff, incidentally. I'm guessing this might end up in the distinguished company of Wikipedia:Unusual articles. Keep up the good work. JRM 01:50, 2004 Dec 6 (UTC)

These are good points. I see the error in my ways and do appreciate, very much, your feedback. Alecw

The Lead section was also excessive, so I have made a corresponding edit, but none of the information has been lost, with repetitive content removed and other content relocated to a more appropriate section.--Soulparadox (talk) 03:53, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

John C. Lilly's breast implants?

Maybe I'm just ignorant about John Lilly, but I haven't found any reference that says that he had gotten breast implants. Hence, why the "...like John C. Lilly before him" mention? Anarchivist | Talk 16:42, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

The reference was unnecessary for a variety of reasons, I've since killed it. :bloodofox: 14:10, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

POV and grammar issues.

I really like this article. Theres certainly alot of love put into it. However, Im finding , that perhaps its a little uncritical and perhaps would do well if someone (who isnt as gramatically impaired as I!!) had a look over it and gave it a clean up. It strikes me that the principle issues are grammar, and perhaps the POV issues. It just needs a little more detachment. -Duck monster