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==Untitled==

If [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (China-related articles)]] asks to use both, then you can simply add your traditional characters beside my simplified characters. Why did you delete the simplified characters? [[User:Highshines|Highshines]] 00:13, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
::Hey, what's taking you so long to answer my question? Out of excuses? [[User:Highshines|Highshines]] 19:36, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

== [[User talk:65.24.105.1]] ==

<s>Just wondered why you havent warned this user? He flashing up in the cvu channel as having been rolled back x amount of times, and I was looking to block and saw nothing on their talk page. I'll leave in your hands anyway :) [[User talk:Glen S|'''Gl<font color="green">e</font>n''']] 08:23, 16 October 2006 (UTC)</s>
:Bah! Ignore me :) [[User talk:Glen S|'''Gl<font color="green">e</font>n''']] 08:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

== [[David Wu]] ==

Jiang, I saw the changes you made to David Wu. While I'm ok with most of them, I changed back the line about ethnicity. This is something we agreed to and I believe should be left alone. The other changes you made I didn't touch. [[User:Davidpdx|Davidpdx]] 05:06, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Cool, that's fine. Please change it and I'll put a note on the talk page that I agree with it. [[User:Davidpdx|Davidpdx]] 07:59, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

== Prevents wrapping ==

Thanks! How did you ever figure that out? [[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] 06:10, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

== I tried finding the Happy Happy Man... ==

But didn't find him. Since you sort of adopted him as your mascot, I'm hoping you know where exactly he is, or if he moves around regularly. Or if he gave up and went home. The photo(s) give no clue as to his precise location, so I had my whole family walk along (IIRC) Grant from the "Tian Xia Wei Gong" arch all the way to Sacramento St. Was I even close to where he is/was? -- '''[[User talk:Miborovsky|Миборо]][[User:Miborovsky/B|<font color="#FF0000">в</font>]][[User talk:Miborovsky|ский]]''' 18:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

== [[User:108059]] - again! ==

I just wanted to alert you to the fact that [[User:108059]] is changing the spelling of Qing royalty against conventional usage, and he is not particularly communicative about it... I did a couple of reverts ([[Guangxu]], [[Qianlong]], etc.), but I'm getting tired... --[[User:Niohe|Niohe]] 00:18, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

== 1000 edits! ==

I've finally made the thousand edit mark, after almost exactly three years! I know [[User:Daniel.Bryant|Daniel.Bryant]] makes a thousand edits in less than a fortnight, but aren't you proud of me?! --[[User:Xiaopo|Xiaopo]] ([[User talk:Xiaopo|Talk]]) 22:32, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

== Recent China dabs ==

'''Rationale''' For the most part, I've used the following criteria:
*If either the political entity or the georaphic region are the point of reference prior to 1912, the link should be "[[China]]."
*If the political entity is the reference between 1912 and 1949, then it is "[[Republic of China]]" (e.g. "China was involved in World War II.")
*If the political entity is the reference since 1949, it should be "[[People's Republic of China]]" (e.g. "China is a member of the WTO.")
*If the geographic entity is the reference since 1912, it should be either "[[mainland China]]" or the "[[People's Republic of China]]" depending on the context. For instance, if someone was born in XXX province, that province is a constituent of the PRC, not of mainland China ''per se'' (that is to say, there is nothing about the geographic features of East Asia that delimit Gansu. Alternately, if persons are trying to say that there was an earthquake in China in 1998, they probably don't mean the [[Free Area of the Republic of China]], which is itself a geographic region, but the territory administered by the PRC (this is especially the case if someone writes "an earthquake happened in 1998 in [[Bejing]], [[China]];" he is not refering to the Beijing that existed in ancient imperial China, but the capital of the modern state of the PRC.)
Does that make sense? My concern is that persons are writing Wikipedia articles intending to discuss the modern political entity(ies), but directed readers to a non-existent empire or the large cultural group instead. -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 15:03, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
:'''Responding here''' hope that works for you. To say that an earthquake happened in "Beijing, China, in 1998" is POV, as it chooses one Chinese state as the legitimate "China." Since what constitutes China is a [[Chinese Civil War|matter of dispute]] in the [[Foreign relations of the Republic of China|international community]], it is innapropriate for Wikipedia to choose a single Chinese state as the "true China." Hence, the article on one of these Chinese states, which is more commonly called "China" in English is at [[People's Republic of China]], and there is a disambiguation at the top of the China article. -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 15:46, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
::'''POV and PRC''' To say that an earthquake happened in "Beijing, China, in 1998" ''is'' POV, because the Beijing is only in (that is, administered by) one state: the PRC. To say that ''it'' is China is to say that it is the Chinese state; whereas there are two Chinese states, and Beijing is only in one of them. The status of the PRC ''is'' up to dispute, as there is a rival [[Republic of China|Chinese state]], and several other states and IGO's [[Foreign relations of the Republic of China|recognize it as the legitimate China]]. -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 13:47, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
:::'''Occupation''' While it may be true that lip service is paid to the notion that the PRC is an occupier, that is only due to an historical accident that will provoke the PRC to invade Taiwan if they are called a separate state. It is clearly the case that the ROC do not actually claim the mainland, even if they have not renounced the claim it. This (painting the POV of the ROC as "PRC is an occupier") is much more of an anachronism than applying the term "mainland China" to pre-1949 territory. Beijing is the capital of one Chinese state, namely, the PRC. -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 19:42, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
::::'''China(s)''' As for you not personally considering the PRC an occupier, we're on the same page; I never thought that was your personal position. Choosing one Chinese state as ''the'' China is an issue (e.g. the constant prospect of war between the two, the diplomatic back-and-forth in the Third World, competing bids in IGO's, etc.) As you stated "[i]nstead of 'Beijing is a capital of China' the naming conventions dictates 'Beijing is the capital of the People's Republic of China' since we are specifying something political. However, 'China' can be used to refer to a geographical/cultural entity unrelated to politics, as it has been done in the current [[China]] article." Which is, of course, true, and precisely why I tried to disambiguate Chinese political articles from Chinese geographic ones (cf. my use of "mainland China" above.) The statement "Mount Tai is in Shandong province of China" is certainly political, as provinces exist by the virtue of a state to create, merge, and dissolve them. In the case of the PRC, they may have inherited some of these boundaries from imperial China/the ROC, but they have redined their borders and have different conceptions of what constitutes "X province." So, for instance, the official line of the ROC is that "Tibet" includes [[Tannu Tuva]], whereas the PRC neither administers nor claims it. So, if someone refers to the Tibetan Automous Region, they are not referring to the ROC's idea of Tibet, nor the independent (suzerain) kingdom of Tibet, but the district created at the whims of one of the two Chinese states; namely, the PRC. Consequently, it is not the case that the "PRC is totally irrelevant in this picture;" they define all provinces of the Chinese state under their jurisdiction. It is not my contention that "Beijing is in China" is a matter of dispute; it is that ''which'' China it is in must be clarified for the benefit of the reader. My guess would be 90-some% of the articles that make reference to <nowiki>[[China]]</nowiki> since 1949 were written by editors thinking of the Communist state with the red and gold flag, not the ancient empire/civilization/cultural landscape in East Asia. When editors write things like "Such-and-such tank is used in <nowiki>[[China]]</nowiki>," they mean "such-and-such tank is used in the <nowiki>People's Republic of China</nowiki>," correct? -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 04:08, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::'''Tanks and such''' We're getting somewhere with the examples that I gave (Tibet may have been poor, considering its unique status, but I digress...) That having been said, it would be inconsistent and odd for users to be navigating various geographic regions in "China" (likely PRC, of course), and find that one of them is in [[China]], and another, adjacent to it, containing it, or of the same administrative order, is in the [[People's Republic of China]]. Plus, the tank example may have been too ambiguous: by the word "in" I did not mean "within the territorial borders of." When I say "The XXX tank is used in the United States," what I am likely saying is that the political entity of the United States of America uses such-and-such tank ''in other lands where it is fighting wars'' (unless, of course, it uses the tank within the context of a civil war.) Presently, the PRC is not at war with anyone (except a very cold war with the ROC, of course), so to say that XXX tank is used in the PRC is to say that "if the PRC were at war, it would deploy these tanks," not "these tanks are physically located within the territory administered by the PRC" (although the latter is also true, it is not what is intended to be communicated.) Does that all make sense? -[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]·[[User talk:Koavf|T]]·[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]·[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]] 15:22, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

== ROC ==

As per naming convention, One subtle yet important point: Wikipedia treats the Republic of China as a sovereign state with equal status with the People's Republic of China, yet does not address whether they are considered separate nations. Therefore, since the PRC article claims PRC is a country, ROC should be call a country as well. (parallelism and consistency). If both are "states" then we can call both states.--[[User:Certified.Gangsta|Certified.Gangsta]] 06:56, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

==Title in Infobox==
(also posted at Talk:Wesley Clark) Sorry Jiang, that was a very rude revert. I merely did so because I was following the infobox of [[Peter Pace]]. This looks just fine, actually, looking at other high-command general's infoboxes. Apologies. [[User:Staxringold|Staxringold]] <sub>[[User talk:Staxringold|talk]]</sub><sup><span style="position: relative; left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;">[[Special:Contributions/Staxringold|contribs]]</span></sup> 15:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

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== WikiProject Former Countries ==

I would like to invite you back to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Former countries|WikiProject Former countries]]. You were previously a member of its former incarnation ''WP Historical States''. The objective of this project is still to improve the content and accessibility of articles on former countries. A taskforce for the states of the Holy Roman Empire has also been started and the child project on Prussia has also been revived. This restart is still in its early days but it would be great to have you back. - [[User:52 Pickup|52 Pickup]] 18:53, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

== Highshines ==

Take a look at [[Talk:Guangxu_Emperor|this edit]] made by Highshines. I've had my doubts for a long time, but this makes you wonder whether he/she is sane or not.--[[User:Niohe|Niohe]] 22:32, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Taiwan]] ==

I am not sure if your aware of it, but WikiProject Taiwan was created some time ago. Check if it's going alright :) <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">AQu01rius</font> <small>([[User:AQu01rius|User]]&nbsp;&#149;&nbsp;[[User_talk:AQu01rius|Talk]])</small> 17:30, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

== Re: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Lin]] ==

Thanks for pointing those out. I went ahead and deleted them. --[[User:Coredesat|Core]][[User talk:Coredesat|<font color="#6699ff">desat</font>]] 23:17, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

== Article for deletion discussion notice ==

You might be interested in this vote for deletion at [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lǐ (李) (surname)]]. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in whether it should be deleted. Thank you. [[User:Yao Ziyuan|Yao Ziyuan]] 23:13, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
: And this one [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_November_22#Family_name_categories]] [[User:Yao Ziyuan|Yao Ziyuan]] 23:22, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

== [[Talk:Demographics of Taiwan]] & [[Talk:Taiwanese people]] ==

Hey Jiang, if you wouldn't mind, could you give your opinion on why Hokkien/Hoklo and Hakka people are considered Chinese? There's a user who insists those two groups are Taiwanese and cannot be considered Chinese. I've tried to get the two pages semi-protected, but the admins say it's only one anonymous IP so they won't protect the pages. I can't be bothered to get into the war of editing the articles, it gives me a headache. PS: I put your page on my watchlist, reply here. — [[User talk:Nrtm81|Nrtm81]] 04:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


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:P.S. Also [[:Image:Lee Teng-hui.jpg]], [[:Image:Li Changchun.jpg]], and [[:Image:Mayingjiu.jpg]]. I know you have uploaded many wonderful free images, and I hate to bother you, but these particular non-free images aren't allowed. &ndash; [[User:Quadell|Quadell]] <sup>([[User_talk:Quadell|talk]]) ([[Special:Random|random]])</sup> 13:37, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

==Inline- vs. box-style==
You may be interested to keep on eye on edits as such [[Sha Tin District| ]] [[talk:Sha Tin District| ]] [[Hong_Kong-style_milk_tea| ]] [[talk:Hong_Kong-style_milk_tea| ]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hong_Kong-style_milk_tea&diff=91848022&oldid=91775764] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sha_Tin_District&diff=91850082&oldid=91780929]. :-D &mdash; [[User:Instantnood|Insta]][[User_talk:Instantnood|ntnood]] 21:17, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

:Sorry for butting in, but I think SchmuckyTheCat's use of the infobox is nicer (I've actually been wondering where such a template was. I wanted to use it instead of inline text which is nasty-ness!) The box is so much more easier to read. Don't you think so?... Holy crap, that template ([[Template:Chinese]]) is complicated ;_; — [[User talk:Nrtm81|Nrtm81]] 22:32, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
::As user:Jiang has detailed before, these boxes are cluttering with infoboxes and images. Sometimes the box format is preferred, e.g. for people like Dr. Sun Yat Sen who have multiple names. But generally inline-style should be preferred. As an alternative we may perhaps move everything other than the characters (i.e. romanisations) to footnotes, although I'm not quite sure if that's practical. &mdash; [[User:Instantnood|Insta]][[User_talk:Instantnood|ntnood]] 22:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
::::I've raised this issue at [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (China-related articles)]]. Did anyone notice that the [[Hong Kong]] article doesn't even list any romanization but actually has a seperate article for this at [[Pronunciation of Hong Kong]]? I don't think that's appropriate and should've just used the box-style format. Imagine creating seperate articles "Pronunciation of Macau", "Pronunciation of Tibet Autonomous Region", the list could go on. — [[User talk:Nrtm81|Nrtm81]] 07:00, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
:::The introductions to these articles are unreadable with 3-5 translations in the first sentence. [[User:SchmuckyTheCat|SchmuckyTheCat]] 04:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Discuss this at [[Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (China-related articles)]], not here.--[[User:Jiang|Jiang]] 11:20, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
:Since you are watching and reverting some similar edits, I guessed you'd be interested to keep an eye on similar cases. :-) &mdash; [[User:Instantnood|Insta]][[User_talk:Instantnood|ntnood]] 14:55, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Jiang,

You and I did a lot for the bulk of the Taiwan History page I wrote as Maowang and as my old server # when I was too lazy to log in I also wrote much of the anorigines page. I am interested in getting back in to the Taiwan group, but I'm not sure how. I also have a lot to comment on for the Taiwanese People page. I'm the one with all the book citations on the Aborigines page.

== Highshines ==

Jiang, I think it is time to give [[User talk:70.71.11.217]] aka [[User:Highshines|Highshines]] a warning again. He/she has started to split names and inserting hyphens in names on Cixi in a very sneaky way. I'm too tired to clean it up, but it looks awful.--[[User:Niohe|Niohe]] 02:29, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

:By the way, Highshines is acting up again and I wonder if you have time taking a look at it? Apart from his/her usual behavior of magnifying pictures and adding several versions of almost the same picture, he/she refuses to recognize the fact that most images that he/she has uploaded are unsourced and can be removed without advance notice. Please refer to a discission I have initiated a discussion with Highshines at [[Talk:Niuhuru, the Empress Xiao Zhen Xian]].--[[User:Niohe|Niohe]] 02:02, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

:Although it is technically not a policy violation (as far as I know), Highshines has also started to delete warnings from his/her talk page.--[[User:Niohe|Niohe]] 02:03, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
:: I've received a message from Highshines complaining about alleged vandalism by Niohe on [[User talk:23skidoo|my talk page]] (probably came to be because mine is the first administrator on the list). I gave a quick look into the situation and it appears to be a difference of opinion over image use. I'm not going to become involved as it appears Niohe is on a wikibreak and Highshines is currently under block. But I thought I'd let you know, should you be contemplating further action, of his message to me. I'll leave it in your hands as you're more familiar with the situation than I. Cheers. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 14:04, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

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== ROC ==

Jiang, can you block the latest unnamed user with beginning IP 212 to stop editing. He or She is destroying the article by adding (Taiwan) to every ROC or Republic of China. This is not the first time, but many times. Check the user contributions. Also, is there a way to revert easily to the previous edit or do I have to do everythin all over again? Answer here. Thank you. -[[User:Nationalist|Nationalist]] 04:04, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

:For information on how to revert a page, see [[Help:Reverting]]. --[[User:Jiang|Jiang]] 07:10, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

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== Chien-ming Wang ==

For the Chien-ming Wang article, people keep removing Republic of China. For example: Tainan, Taiwan, Republic of China. The people keep removing Republic of China. I don't think the outsiders/Americans understand that the ROC is not their definition of China. They think Taiwan by itself is a country. I suggest that you intervene to resolve this dispute please. Thank you. -[[User:Nationalist|Nationalist]] 08:17, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Jiang please reply in my talk page. -[[User:Nationalist|Nationalist]] 01:30, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

== [[List of sovereign states]] ==

Hey, the debate about having unrecognized countries on the list seems to have started up again. Mind having a look on [[Talk:List of sovereign states#Unrecognized States|the talk page]]? Thanks, <tt class="plainlinks">[[User:Khoikhoi|Khoi]][[User talk:Khoikhoi|khoi]]</tt> 06:47, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

== Hi Jiang ==

Can you help with this jerry guy. He keeps eliminating Republic of China. He is doing POV edits. I think he is pushing the pro-dpp Taiwan independence view. The Republic of China is in fact in existence, so he shouldn't do it. You can respond here. -[[User:Nationalist|Nationalist]] 00:58, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

==Picture==
Hello Jiang, I think your picture on your user page is interesting. Why do you think 台島失福? I think people in Taiwan are a lot happier than people in the PRC!--[[User:Jerrypp772000|Jerrypp772000]] 23:37, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

:What do you know about China? Have you been there? If so, what kind of experiences you have had there? [[User:Highshines|Highshines]] 04:30, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

::Jiang, I support your view on Mr. Chen Shuibian. [[User:Highshines|Highshines]] 08:28, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

:Well, I've never said before that China sucks. It's just that I don't think 台島失福 because it's got a democratic government. I've only been to Hong Kong once so I don't know what it's like to live in China. But I'm pretty sure that the man in the picture has never gone to Taiwan.--[[User:Jerrypp772000|Jerrypp772000]] 19:49, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

::From what I can see, Taiwan's politics is just a HUGE mess. In the news I keep seeing politicians trying to backstab whomever they dislike, and everything is about "If I were the president I would've done a better job than <insert name here>" talk. I don't know a lot about China, but I think one of the reasons that they are so strong is that they do not have as much mess as Taiwan's so-called democratic political system. Even if China have bruteforced with Communism, it was a more organized Communism than Taiwan's intra-warring Democracy. I don't think we should talk about this in Jiang's talk page like a forum, but I just feel the need to say this. [[User:Vic226|<span style="background:#008"><font size="4" color="#ffffff" face="Vivaldi">Vic226</font></span>]]<sub><i>([[User talk:Vic226|chat]])</i></sub> 04:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

== Page moves again... ==

I hate to bother you with this, but our friend Highshines is going rampant making undiscussed pages moves again. Have a look at [[Special:Contributions/Highshines]]. We need to do something about this.--[[User:Niohe|Niohe]] 00:39, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

:'''What's your problem, Niohe? Aren't you the one who proposed the kind of page moves I have just made? I don't know what problem you have got, but I'm sure it's a serious problem.''' [[User:Highshines|Highshines]] 04:25, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

::To whomever deleted my user page: Can't you just delete the text and leave all other things intact? [[User:Highshines|Highshines]] 08:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for doing the heavy-lifting, Jiang, you're a rock. I'm not sure if you noticed what Highshines posted [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jiang&diff=next&oldid=103543017 above] for four hours. I have posted a notice on the Administrator notice board on this, but I wanted to let you know.--[[User:Niohe|Niohe]] 14:49, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

:Niohe, if you are the one who edited my userpage, then these comments are for you. [[User:Highshines|Highshines]] 18:03, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

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== List of sovereign states ==

I guess someone is trying to drag us back to the [[List of sovereign states controversy]] . . . . [[User:Allentchang|Allentchang]] 00:31, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

== Image:ROC calendar.jpg ==

[[User:Durin]] is giving me a hard time with the [[ROC calendar.jpg]], threatening to delete it. Is there any way you can negotiate with the user about this?

== RE:Highshines is back! ==

Well, I'm itching for a permaban... or a month at least. -- [[User talk:Miborovsky|我♥中國]] 20:54, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

hi Jiang,i am a grad student at New York University. i am writing a profile story on Jimbo for a Chinese magazine i freelance for.it's also for my school assignment.I am from Shanghai. i am new to the community but i am absolutely amazed by the idea of wikipedia and open collaboration. I had a chance to talk to jimbo here in New york last week.he had a few interesting comments on wikipedia's core community and his understanding of open debate on controversial entries for ppl in taiwan and on the mainland.. i 'd really like to learn more how wiki's core community member like you see jimbo and talk a bit about their experience with the wikipedian community.
there are couple of other things regarding wiki model i am curious about , too.

if you are willing to talk..pls leave a message on mytalk,i'd wish to have a chance to talk to you over phone or email this week. thanks!!

== sorry repost here ==

it's awkward..but how come i did not see my username on the last comment post?
it's Evawoo21
my email address is eva.woo@nyu.edu


hi Jiang,i am a grad student at New York University. i am writing a profile story on Jimbo for a Chinese magazine i freelance for.it's also for my school assignment.I am from Shanghai. i am new to the community but i am absolutely amazed by the idea of wikipedia and open collaboration. I had a chance to talk to jimbo here in New york last week.he had a few interesting comments on wikipedia's core community and his understanding of open debate on controversial entries for ppl in taiwan and on the mainland.. i 'd really like to learn more how wiki's core community member like you see jimbo and talk a bit about their experience with the wikipedian community. there are couple of other things regarding wiki model i am curious about , too.

if you are willing to talk..pls leave a message on mytalk,i'd wish to have a chance to talk to you over phone or email this week. thanks!!

eva <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Evawoo21|Evawoo21]] ([[User talk:Evawoo21|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Evawoo21|contribs]]) 15:22, 6 February 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

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[[User:SandyGeorgia|Sandy<font color="green">Georgia</font>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]]) 17:23, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

== vandalism ==

Caught a couple--- I saw you semi-protected your own page-- You are gonna put it on long term vandal list? - [[User:Penwhale|Penwhale]] | [[User_talk:Penwhale|Blast the Penwhale]] 06:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I'll help, but unfortunately I don't know a fast way to do it. Oh... and see the anon below... - [[User:Penwhale|Penwhale]] | [[User_talk:Penwhale|Blast the Penwhale]] 06:18, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Let's hope it's enough. (I've only caught the initial ones when I was looking over something-- either on VP or RC) Should I add your page to my watch list, or do you think it's okay? - [[User:Penwhale|Penwhale]] | [[User_talk:Penwhale|Blast the Penwhale]] 06:47, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Rather amusing really. Been really busy; no time to edit WP... but always checking back periodically to see if there's been any innovation in highshines' verbiage. A letdown though, seems rather uncreative, same taunts over and over again... *yawn* :) -- [[User talk:Miborovsky|我♥中國]] 05:10, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

It amuses me to the point that I wonder how did I get dragged into this to begin with... (yes, my user page got hit too.) - [[User:Penwhale|Penwhale]] | [[User_talk:Penwhale|Blast the Penwhale]] 12:04, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

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