Template talk:Yemeni Civil War detailed map

Twitter

Twitter is not a reliable source. Please, stop making edits on this template based on tweets of unknown and unverified Twitter accounts. OKMG-1200 (talk) 23:27, 19 February 2021 (UTC) Some editors use an unknown and unverified Twitter account named Suriyakmaps for editing this template. Please check the using Twitter as source discussion WP:RSPTWITTER. OKMG-1200 (talk) 13:35, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Even though it is considered generally unreliable by Wikipedians, Twitter can be a reliable source if the accounts being used are journalists with reliable information, of which many template mappers rely on twitter-using journalists to verify their sources. One of these people is the Twitter account named Suriyakmaps. If you look at other war templates like Syria, Taliban insurgency, etc, Twitter accounts considered reliable are used including Suriyakmaps. Wowzers122 (talk) 20:19, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

@Wowzers122: You are right my friend about using Twitter accounts of journalists. BUT, Suriyakmaps is not a journalist. We don't know even who is Suriyakmaps in real life. We don't know who owns this account. It is an unknown and unverified account. Thus, we can not use it. Also, did you read the warning of copying from other maps in Module:Yemeni Civil War detailed map. please ping me so I can see your reply. OKMG-1200 (talk) 14:37, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

@OKMG-1200: While it may be true that Suriyakmaps is an unverified account. Most of the time his information still lines up with other non-twitter sources. Also, as I said before, templates like Syria and the Taliban insurgency use his account and other non-verified accounts for their sources. Also, when did I copy from a map? If I did, you can undo it. Wowzers122 (talk) 17:38, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

@Wowzers122: My friend, If there are other sources that line up with Suriyakmaps then there is no need to use this unknown account.Also, if some people do wrong things, this does not mean what they are doing is right. Thus, if some editors use Suriyakmaps as a source in other maps, this doesn't make Suriyakmaps a reliable source. Remember, Two wrongs don't make a right!!!

Also, reporting the same events here in this map that were reported by Suriyakmaps is considered copying.OKMG-1200 (talk) 12:26, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

@OKMG-1200: Sources don't line up 100% and some report things faster than others. Wowzers122 (talk) 16:58, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

That doesn't make sense. It's Not like I'm copying from Suriyak's maps, I'm just adding what he reports in his tweets. Which don't change with or without a map. Wowzers122 (talk) 16:58, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

@Wowzers122: my friend, I strongly advise you not to use an unknown Twitter accounts. we should always stick to the use of reliable sources. Wikipedia community decided that unknown Twitter accounts are unreliable. that is all I have to say. regarding the copying issue, here what the rules of map editing says: "Maps from mainstream media are approximate and therefore unreliable for any edit." OKMG-1200 (talk) 17:49, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Clarification of my edit on Module on 28 November 2021‎

@Wowzers122: What the edit summary on my edit ("Since Battle_of_Hudaydah_(2018).svg was removed...") meant was not that the SVG file was deleted or something but rather that it was removed from the template/module by the following edit:

15:03, 12 November 2021‎ Borysk5 talk contribs‎ 191,126 bytes −405‎ https://en.mehrnews.com/news/180625/Yemeni-forces-take-control-of-some-positions-in-Al-Hudaydah, https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/saudiled-coalition-withdraws-from-sites-in-alhudaydah:-sourc

Tradedia^talk 11:39, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Source on Hadramaut

Since I won't fit it all in comment description. In 2018 this edit changed Al-Mukalla and other districts in the region to pro-Hadi because "new forces from the second millitary region were inaugurated in Al-Mukulla City" based on source that I can't access. However: Second Military Region is under control of U.A.E.-backed Hadrami Elite Forces including Coastal Defense Forces (source). Al-Mukalla is already marked under Southern control. Source from 2020 saying that coast is under HEF control while pro-Hadi forces are in Hadramawt valley and desert [1]. Al-Dhaba and Ash Shihr under HEF control: [2]. Ad-Dis under control of Coastal Defense Forces [3]. Hajr district and other local districts were captured by Hadrami Elite Forces back in 2018: [4]. This map from October 2019 by Sana'a Center for Strategic Studies shows entire coast of Hadramaut as under control of U.A.E. backed militias: [5]. In August 2022 Southern forces demanded departure of First Military District from Wadi Hadramawt and replacement with Hadrami Elite Forces from coast: [6]. Borysk5 (talk) 08:12, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Add roadmap overlay

Add a road map to improve this template @Borysk5@Tradedia@HCPUNXKID AlMahra67 (talk) 14:35, 16 September 2022 (UTC)